# No Civ4 thread?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 26, 2005, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007 "2005-10-26T15:42:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Engywook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bc8723/32.png) [@Engywook](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Engywook)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/21 "2005-10-26T19:50:23Z")

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> [@PeterWiggen](#):
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> WOOOOOOO-HOOOOOOO!!!  
> _Story making me just green with envy cut_

Ah, that’s not how it is in New Yawk. EB at Union Square was pre-orders only. So I went across the road to Virgin, thinking just maybe they’d have it because that isn’t the first place most people think of to buy games. No luck there, either… the guy at the counter in the games section had never even heard of it. :eek:

So, just a hint, Peter… is the EB you went to within, I dunno, a ten hour walk of New York? 😃

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**Author:** ![Shadez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Shadez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shadez)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/22 "2005-10-26T20:03:59Z")

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I preordered it a month ago from EB games. They said that in-store pickup was only allowed after 48 hours of the release, so I’ll be calling them tomorrow, since I doubt they will call me first, especially after reading this thread 😉

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**Author:** ![carterba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85e7bf/32.png) [@carterba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carterba)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/23 "2005-10-26T20:56:47Z")

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Early reviews are saying it’s the best Civ yet. I’m gonna have to hold off until Christmas to get it… I’ve already squandered so much time to Civ 3 this semester that I had to give it up cold turkey.

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**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/24 "2005-10-26T20:59:11Z")

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Now on Amazon’s Civ4 Collector’s Edition page:

> [@](#):
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> Availability: Usually ships within 24 hours
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> Want it delivered Tomorrow? Order it in the next 1 hour and 31 minutes, and choose One-Day Shipping at checkout. See details.

Hey, how about fulfilling the existing orders first, huh? HUH?

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/25 "2005-10-26T21:00:46Z")

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I checked two stores over lunch and I did not find it. I thought that the release had been pushed back into November anyway.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/26 "2005-10-26T21:19:21Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> The store just called me. It’s in. I’m on my way! My review later.
> 
> A new baby and a new Civ within nine days. Life is good.

Wow! Congratulations man! That’s awesome! You’re gonna have so much fun! There’s so much learning and every moment is a wonderous event.

Nice work on the baby too.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/27 "2005-10-26T21:37:52Z")

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> [@Palooka](#):
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> I need to see how this new “Turbo mode” or whatever they called the shortened gameplay style works out before I pick it up. In Civ3, I’d always lose interest before the game would finish, usually once the computer players started using 5 - 10 minutes for their turns.

I can finish a Civ3 game in 5 hours, two if I turn on Domination. Perphas you need a faster computer?

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**Author:** ![Neidhart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Neidhart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neidhart)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/28 "2005-10-26T22:17:12Z")

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My machine isn’t powerful enough to play the game. Plus it doesn’t work on Windows 98. ☹

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/29 "2005-10-26T22:34:25Z")

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> [@iamthewalrus(:3=](#):
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> So, no sleep for you, huh?

Hey, but at least now he can play Civ4 between the calls of an unhappy baby.

I might get it eventually. Civ3 needed a lot of time and patching to be good, so though I played a bit of a friend’s copy I didn’t buy mine until they had the full-blown game+expansions compiliation available. Plus, I’m wary of anything coming out of Atari. Civ3 wasn’t that great, RCT2 sucked, MOO3 sucked…

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**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/30 "2005-10-26T22:41:56Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> Perphas you need a faster computer?

_glares at **Lute Skywatcher** _

…S. Harrison Doyle, Paul Newman, Mary McGrory, Lute Skywatcher.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/31 "2005-10-26T23:50:28Z")

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> [@Neidhart](#):
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> My machine isn’t powerful enough to play the game. Plus it doesn’t work on Windows 98. ☹

Checking in … Guess what … Me neither! This thing really needs some firepower (especially in your graphics card) if you want to run it. You need to make sure that you have Transform & Lighting capability on your graphics cards. Otherwise, as many people have found out, the graphics are seriously impaired (to the point of unplayability).

Before buying, I recommend going [here](http://www.srtest.com), and making sure that your computer can handle Civ IV.

(in case you were wondering fellow Dopers, my girlfriend’s computer has passed the test - so I’m installing there - fingers crossed)

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/32 "2005-10-26T23:56:18Z")

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Unfortunately, if you have a newer ATI card, the game does not work.

Probably 75% of all customers with ATI cards report the game is totally non-functional.

So unless you have a GeForce card, don’t rush.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/33 "2005-10-26T23:59:45Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Unfortunately, if you have a newer ATI card, the game does not work.
> 
> Probably 75% of all customers with ATI cards report the game is totally non-functional.
> 
> So unless you have a GeForce card, don’t rush.

The scuttlebutt in the Civilization Fanatics Forums is that some ATI problems can be fixed by installing [Omega Drivers](http://www.omegadrivers.net/).

I don’t have any way to test this however. Good luck to anybody with these cards. Hell, good luck to everybody.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/34 "2005-10-27T00:10:30Z")

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> [@jkirkman](#):
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> Here is a walkthrough from one of the game testers (not me).
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> [http://www.kalikokottage.com/civ3/sullla/civ4intro.html](http://www.kalikokottage.com/civ3/sullla/civ4intro.html)

I read the whole thing.

I am now fully erect.

I guess I need a new computer…

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/35 "2005-10-27T00:27:30Z")

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Woohoo, found a store that’s got some left.

Time to get a crate of Dr Pepper, a ton or so of cheetos, and do this up old school.

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**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/36 "2005-10-27T00:40:44Z")

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Ok, screw this hippie crap, I’m finding a local copy tonight.

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**Author:** ![Taters](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/taters/32/2845_2.png) [@Taters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taters)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/37 "2005-10-27T00:42:33Z")

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My husband picked up his pre-ordered copy from Gamestop today. He is sitting not three feet from me playing the game right now.

**Cervaise,** I read your reply aloud to my husband who laughed and said you’re welcome to head on down south anytime to see the game. He still remembers you from **Swampfest.**

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/38 "2005-10-27T00:55:29Z")

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🙂

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**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/39 "2005-10-27T00:55:50Z")

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Shit, I didn’t know it was out already! I thought it was coming out around Christmas! Well, I think I can say goodbye to the rest of the evenings this year, and probably at least half of next year too.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/40 "2005-10-27T01:40:07Z")

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Hey, is that Leonard Nimoy doing the narration?

\<checks manual\>

It is! Shiny!

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