# No common ground left to stand on?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [November 19, 2019, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-common-ground-left-to-stand-on/843639 "2019-11-19T02:58:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2019, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-common-ground-left-to-stand-on/843639/167 "2019-11-25T14:23:01Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> […]insanity that [congressional republicans are intentionally spreading](https://www.motherjones.com/impeachment/2019/11/trump-keeps-pushing-his-ridiculous-crowdstrike-theory-not-even-fox-is-buying-it/), mind you - just to be able to get to the point where we discuss what the president is actually doing - let alone what effects it might have, or what context is involved.

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> [@The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/39047):
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> Senator John Kennedy (R-LA) was being interviewed by Chris Wallace on Fox News.
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> Wallace: _“Senator Kennedy, who do you believe was responsible for hacking the DNC and Clinton campaign computers - their emails? Was it Russia or Ukraine?”_
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> Kennedy: _“I don’t know. Nor do you. Nor do any of us.”_
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> Wallace: _“Let me just interrupt to say that the entire intelligence community says it was Russia.”_
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> Kennedy: _“Right, but it could also be Ukraine. I’m not saying that I know one way or the other.”_
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> Here you have a top Republican seemingly proud of his ignorance. Sure, you can - with enough effort - put facts into his head. But you will never be able to force him to learn anything from those facts.

Postmodern republicanism. The facts don’t matter. What matters is _power_. They know for a fact it’s wrong. They know for a fact it’s a lie. They spread it anyways, because what they’re doing is indefensible otherwise.

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