# No doctor, I do not have "depression."

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-doctor-i-do-not-have-depression/561959>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 26, 2010, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-doctor-i-do-not-have-depression/561959 "2010-11-26T06:40:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Quercus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7ab992/32.png) [@Quercus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quercus)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2010, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-doctor-i-do-not-have-depression/561959/141 "2010-12-09T22:33:32Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> When I snapped off the top of my wristbone and was offered pain pills, I refused. I got through it with ice packs and a shot beore the doctor moved the bone and put a cast on it, then nothing but asprin and Aleve.
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> Since I was in pain, maybe I should have just taken pain pills and not had the bone reset and worn a cast for ten weeks! Since I was in pain, I needed pain pills, right. I was in “situational pain” and pain pills would hasve been the medication that would have cured that problem. I could have functioned just as well with pain pills as a cast. Probably better!
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> Though I would admit, this thread has changed my opinion on medicaion. Not enough to risk taking any, but it has made me more tolerant of other people who do so.

Consider someone who’s broken their leg, badly. So badly that they’re writhing and thrashing in pain. Now pain medication certainly won’t fix the broken leg, but it will get the person to the point where they can sit still for an X-ray, and have the bone set and a cast put on.

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**Author:** ![mookieblaylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@mookieblaylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mookieblaylock)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-doctor-i-do-not-have-depression/561959/142 "2010-12-11T06:08:26Z")

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Drugs or not, it doesn’t matter.

There was a time where drugs and therapy worked. I was happy with who I was. So basically, I was content with being a fat and ugly idiot who wasn’t good for anything except fucking up and making a fool of himself.

Only the first two traits have changed. It’s better to be self-aware rather than delusional.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-doctor-i-do-not-have-depression/561959/143 "2010-12-11T06:09:37Z")

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> [@mookieblaylock](#):
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> Only the first two traits have changed. It’s better to be self-aware rather than delusional.

And what’s that getting you?

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**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-doctor-i-do-not-have-depression/561959/144 "2010-12-11T06:25:22Z")

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> [@mookieblaylock](#):
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> Drugs or not, it doesn’t matter.
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> There was a time where drugs and therapy worked. I was happy with who I was. So basically, I was content with being a fat and ugly idiot who wasn’t good for anything except fucking up and making a fool of himself.
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> Only the first two traits have changed. It’s better to be self-aware rather than delusional.

To expand on **Marley23’s** point:

Self-awareness is only good if it helps you change. So if you went from a medicated and happy fat ugly idiot to a depressed fat ugly idiot, then what was the benefit of becoming self-aware?

Sometimes feeling bad about a problem can motivate you to change. But most people forget that this doesn’t work for every problem. Feeling bad about being fat will often make you fatter. Usually overweight people beat their weight problem only after they stop being depressed about being fat.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-doctor-i-do-not-have-depression/561959/145 "2010-12-11T07:33:01Z")

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They do have pills for this that are inexpensive and effective. Shut up and take them like the rest of us depressives because your whining isn’t it making it any easier on the rest of us loser, self-centered sacks of shit.

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**Author:** ![EvilTOJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EvilTOJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilTOJ)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-doctor-i-do-not-have-depression/561959/146 "2010-12-11T08:06:58Z")

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Hey speak for yourself! I’m no loser! The other stuff, eh I guess it’s pretty accurate.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-doctor-i-do-not-have-depression/561959/147 "2010-12-12T01:02:43Z")

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> [@mookieblaylock](#):
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> Drugs or not, it doesn’t matter.
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> There was a time where drugs and therapy worked. I was happy with who I was. So basically, I was content with being a fat and ugly idiot who wasn’t good for anything except fucking up and making a fool of himself.
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> Only the first two traits have changed. It’s better to be self-aware rather than delusional.

So what about those of us who ARE using anti-depressants and therapy. We’re all delusional? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![mookieblaylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@mookieblaylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mookieblaylock)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-doctor-i-do-not-have-depression/561959/148 "2010-12-12T07:29:38Z")

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Welp, fuck it, close this topic.

Had a girl clearly interested in me tonight and I blew it simply by being myself. I’m a fucking loser and truth be told I’m sure I don’t have to worry about killing myself because an idiot like me is just going to kill himself accidentally soon enough.

So fucking just close it, because I’m beyond help.

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**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-doctor-i-do-not-have-depression/561959/149 "2010-12-12T07:47:01Z")

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If a mod closes this one, will you promise not to make another pity thread about yourself?

I’m not convinced that you’re a loser. Everyone has been rejected by a girl before, so you’re not so special. Repeatedly saying that your a loser doesn’t make you a loser either.

And you’re still not beyond help. If you accept help from others, you can work your way out of your situation.

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**Author:** ![mookieblaylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@mookieblaylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mookieblaylock)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-doctor-i-do-not-have-depression/561959/150 "2010-12-12T08:04:34Z")

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> [@Lakai](#):
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> If a mod closes this one, will you promise not to make another pity thread about yourself?
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> I’m not convinced that you’re a loser. Everyone has been rejected by a girl before, so you’re not so special. Repeatedly saying that your a loser doesn’t make you a loser either.
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> And you’re still not beyond help. If you accept help from others, you can work your way out of your situation.

I wasn’t rejected. I just never made a fucking move in the first place.

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**Author:** ![nikonikosuru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@nikonikosuru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nikonikosuru)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-doctor-i-do-not-have-depression/561959/151 "2010-12-12T14:52:14Z")

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Can I have your stuff?

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-doctor-i-do-not-have-depression/561959/152 "2010-12-12T17:48:56Z")

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> [@mookieblaylock](#):
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> Welp, fuck it, close this topic.  
> …  
> So fucking just close it, because I’m beyond help.

Nope, not gonna close it, because I have instructed you to not hijack other people’s threads with moaning about your depression, and **Miller** has instructed you not to start pity parties in the Pit. This thread is the only place at the SDMB where you are allowed to bitch and moan about your depression. Which I’m willing to bet you will continue to do, despite your regular protestations to the contrary.

**twickster** , MPSIMS moderator

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-doctor-i-do-not-have-depression/561959/153 "2010-12-12T17:55:47Z")

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Can you get yourself hospitalized, **mookie**? If you won’t do that and you won’t go to therapy, then hell yeah you’re a loser. Only a loser wallows in his loserdom and then whines about it continuously. We can only be sympathetic for so long.

I know I’m being mean and stuff, but you need someone to take you by the shoulders and shake some sense into you.

You need help.

From a professional.

Right this instance.

No excuses.

And if you have an excuse ready, then you need to shut your yap before posting it. We’re sick of it. You are starting to sound like a troll.

Pretty much everyone on this thread has dealt with major depression and anxiety and other mental disorders. Perhaps a few have even tried to commit suicide. You are not alone in your suffering. So why won’t you LISTEN TO US AND GET SOME GODDAMN HELP???

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-doctor-i-do-not-have-depression/561959/154 "2010-12-12T22:28:41Z")

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I know you’re not in the mood, my friend Mook, to hear anymore advice so let me just share a little learning with you.

You ever heard of that nebulous Buddhist concept wherein we all create our own reality?

I know, most Westerners have a difficult time understanding it. I’m going to give you a hint…

> [@](#):
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> I was content with being a fat and ugly idiot who wasn’t good for anything except fucking up and making a fool of himself.

When you self reference this way, you are creating your future. You’re where you are today, in part, because you created this future with your habit of seeing yourself in these terms. Stop doing that, you’ll create a different future for yourself. You don’t have to lie, just be as kind and as gentle as though you were speaking of someone’s granny.

The difference between, “I am a worthless fuck up!”, and, “I’m not the person I wish to be, yet” is how you change your reality, from the hell you’re in, to a better place.

Many people suffering mental health issues find benefit in reading some Buddhism, I believe it’s because utter self absorption often accompanies mental illness. Buddhism requires some exercise in taming one’s ego, not bad therapy for the self absorbed.

There is a lot of self absorption, out there, dressed up as mental illness, and it’s a very effective disguise. Controlling that self absorption leaves room for people to ‘get out from under’ their depression, helps them to move forward to a better life.

It’s something to think about anyway.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-doctor-i-do-not-have-depression/561959/155 "2010-12-14T04:05:09Z")

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**mookie** , you might want to try reading [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=589096) to get some perspective.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-doctor-i-do-not-have-depression/561959/156 "2010-12-22T06:49:58Z")

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I saw this post in another thread, and I was afraid you might want to respond to it without getting a mod note for bringing up your stuff in other threads.

> [@Dear Husband,](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-husband/564754/42):
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> I respect the husband here. He knows that if he does all the things his wife mentioned in the OP, then she will simply find something new to complain about, and it’s better to wait for her to just run out of steam rather than attempting the completely insurmountable task of trying to completely please his wife.

Now just remind yourself of this every time you feel bad for not having a girlfriend!

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**Author:** ![lisalan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/0ea827/32.png) [@lisalan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisalan)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-doctor-i-do-not-have-depression/561959/157 "2010-12-23T13:46:03Z")

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Depression IS an illness usually caused by the chemicals in the brain not being balanced. People who are depressed often need meds like ssri’s to help keep the serotonin in their brains. I find it really offensive that you make it sound like people with mental illnesses like depression are not truly sick and are just faking it.  
You ARE depressed you are also one of the most pessimistic people I have ever encountered. I read your other threads and they are all pitty parties. Get some help. Go see a psychiatrist who can get you on the meds that you need to feel better.

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**Author:** ![lisalan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/0ea827/32.png) [@lisalan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisalan)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-doctor-i-do-not-have-depression/561959/158 "2010-12-23T13:50:09Z")

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> [@mookieblaylock](#):
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> Can I also say I laugh at the term self-fulfilling prophecy? Because the “prophecy” did a real good fucking job of fulfilling itself long before I ever felt this way.

Can you type anything without swearing?

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**Author:** ![mookieblaylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@mookieblaylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mookieblaylock)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-doctor-i-do-not-have-depression/561959/159 "2010-12-23T20:50:52Z")

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> [@lisalan](#):
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> Can you type anything without swearing?

“Swearing is the crutch for the conversational cripple.”

so no, I really can’t without trying.

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**Author:** ![mookieblaylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@mookieblaylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mookieblaylock)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-doctor-i-do-not-have-depression/561959/160 "2010-12-23T20:53:04Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I saw this post in another thread, and I was afraid you might want to respond to it without getting a mod note for bringing up your stuff in other threads.
> 
> Now just remind yourself of this every time you feel bad for not having a girlfriend!

Yeah, and then I’ll think “well if it really is so horrible, then why doesn’t the whole world just divorce each other?”

Then I’ll know the answer is because it really isn’t and I’ll feel even worse.

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