# No, dumb bitch, we don't take anyone's American Express card

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [November 16, 2015, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697 "2015-11-16T15:09:07Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2015, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/181 "2015-11-19T23:54:18Z")

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> [@Mr.Nylock](#):
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> She should have stolen a visa card; she’ll think twice about usong stolen amex cards from now on.

Uncalled-for.

Also, there is an _i_ in “using.”

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### Author: ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2015, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/182 "2015-11-20T00:46:14Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> Uncalled-for.
> 
> Also, there is an _i_ in “using.”

Shut up you twit.

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### Author: ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2015, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/183 "2015-11-20T01:08:54Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> There’s another sales aphorism:.“Win an argument, lose a sale.”

Yep, very much along the same line.

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### Author: ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2015, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/184 "2015-11-20T03:35:53Z")

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Okay, mea culpa! That KFC post I made (about there being a reason fast-food workers are fast-food workers and not rocket scientists) was really an out-of-context snark on my part. There’s actually a  
back-story to that.

TL;DR: It was really meant (although I didn’t say it) to refer to people who are stuck in low-level work like waiting tables for their entire careers.

The back-story: I used to eat at places like Denny’s from time to time. When they asked me how I wanted my eggs, I always said “medium rare”. It was a joke. But they _never_ got it. Now, these were often older (yes, female) waitresses who seemed to be stuck in that kind of job, and not too bright.

I mentioned this to my boss at the time (this was circa 1986). His answer was “Well, there’s a reason those people are still waitresses and not software engineers.”

I didn’t tell that whole story in my post, but it was actually an allusion to that.

ETA: Good catch, **Mr. Nylock** , remembering that post after almost 1½ years to bring it up again!

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### Author: ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2015, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/185 "2015-11-20T03:51:16Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> My store always has to have a male cashier waiting somewhere in the wings. Some (Muslim & Jewish) men refuse to do any business with a woman.
> 
> I am always amazed at the world’s ignorance.

I have had a couple like that in the school over the years. They refuse to deal with SWMBO and demand to deal with me. They then get an emphasized lesson on courtesy and respect for everyone in the school, and they are told in no uncertain terms to either deal with SWMBO or start attending Joe’s Pizza and Karate down the street.

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### Author: ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2015, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/186 "2015-11-21T15:23:40Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> And yes, **Annie** is the poster who wanted two young black girls to give up their seats on the bus because at age 59 with a sprained wrist she was ‘elderly and handicapped’. :rolleyes:

I have no problems with any one’s opinion of me, but that last statement is a flat out fucking falsehood. I did not have a “sprained wrist.” I literally snapped off my wristbone, and it was sitting three inches up my arm. That’s a two bone break, and it caused a permanent disability. I could be sitting on my ass right now, getting disability on the government’s dime, but I chose to work.

“Sprained wrist” my ass.

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### Author: ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2015, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/187 "2015-11-21T15:31:32Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> “Sprained wrist” my ass.

The new biology 😛

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### Author: ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2015, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/188 "2015-11-21T15:47:10Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> TL;DR: It was really meant (although I didn’t say it) to refer to people who are stuck in low-level work like waiting tables for their entire careers.
> 
> The back-story: I used to eat at places like Denny’s from time to time. When they asked me how I wanted my eggs, I always said “medium rare”. It was a joke. But they _never_ got it. Now, these were often older (yes, female) waitresses who seemed to be stuck in that kind of job, and not too bright.
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> I mentioned this to my boss at the time (this was circa 1986). His answer was “Well, there’s a reason those people are still waitresses and not software engineers.”

I don’t think you are a bad person or anything, but all I see is that you feel superior to people who are not as bright as you; or don’t get your jokes - which, to you, means they are not as bright as you.

Some people are smarter than others some people are better looking some people are richer etc. etc. and it is common for anyone with more of one thing to say that those with less of that thing are lesser human beings and even to the point of them being less compassionate and more indifferent or immoral. There is nothing you have written that makes me think that you do not have this attitude either in your original post or in your defense of that post.

People can think whatever they want. However, as far as the KFC story goes, my heart and sympathies go out to the workers who had to endure tremendous abuse in the aftermath of all this from people spitting at them, cursing them, judging them because so many people believed it was of course likely that they would treat a little girl like that. And ultimately, since we live in a market society, and the customer is king, the only option for those workers is to endure it and be happy that they have a job anyway.

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### Author: ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2015, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/189 "2015-11-21T22:13:47Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> I have no problems with any one’s opinion of me, but that last statement is a flat out fucking falsehood. I did not have a “sprained wrist.” I literally snapped off my wristbone, and it was sitting three inches up my arm. That’s a two bone break, and it caused a permanent disability. I could be sitting on my ass right now, getting disability on the government’s dime, but I chose to work.
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> “Sprained wrist” my ass.

Falsehood requires deliberate deception. I just went back over that thread using “wrist” as the search term and nowhere did you describe your wrist as having been broken. You referred to it merely as being “injured”, and you came in for quite a bit of criticism both for expecting two young black girls to give up their seats when other seats were apparently available a little further back and for describing yourself as “elderly and handicapped” at only 59 years of age with an injured wrist. I would think that had you had such an injury you certainly have brought it up then given fair amount of criticism you were coming in for. You’re not exactly one to hold back in the face of an opportunity for dramatic exposition.

[Here’s the thread should anyone want to form their own opinion.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=708042)

Also, I don’t know what state you live in, but where I live a good deal more than a broken wrist is necessary for full disability.

Frankly your veracity is more than a little in question. I point to your referencing the BBB woman in the OP as outweighing you by a good many pounds and then when called on the stereotype you switched your use of “big” to meaning she was tall. Sorry, but I’m afraid your word just doesn’t count for much.

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### Author: ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2015, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/190 "2015-11-22T03:28:06Z")

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I wonder if **Annie** and **Broomstick** are related? The post/bullshit ratio is nearly exactly the same.

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### Author: ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2015, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/191 "2015-11-22T05:29:10Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> And yes, **Annie** is the poster who wanted two young black girls to give up their seats on the bus because at age 59 with a sprained wrist she was ‘elderly and handicapped’. :rolleyes:

And also felt that having an arm cast necessitated the use of the handicap stall, so it was terrible for some women or girls not to realize that. This need was news to me given my brother managed to break both arms and a wrist in an accident and managed okay in non-handicap stalls despite casts on both arms.

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### Author: ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2015, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/192 "2015-11-22T06:44:03Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> I have no problems with any one’s opinion of me, but that last statement is a flat out fucking falsehood. I did not have a “sprained wrist.” I literally snapped off my wristbone, and it was sitting three inches up my arm. That’s a two bone break, and it caused a permanent disability. I could be sitting on my ass right now, getting disability on the government’s dime, but I chose to work.
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> “Sprained wrist” my ass.

You only get SSDI if you can’t work anymore due to your disability. What did having an injury to your wrist (which is now apparently a Stephen King-esque nightmare of an injury) prevent you from doing? Did you masturbate for a living?

And yes, it _is_ noteworthy that you seem to have all these run-ins with black people who think you’re racist. If people kept calling me racist I’d start to take a look inward.

Forgot all about that old thread. Love this gem:

> [@Asking an African-American woman to give up a bus seat in the handicapped section makes me racist?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asking-an-african-american-woman-to-give-up-a-bus-seat-in-the-handicapped-section-makes-me-racist/674137/5):
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> I always ask the youngest looking adults. And when the elderly white male driver asked them to move, they ignored him.
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> Finally, a white middle aged woman got up and gave me her seat. **As I sat down, I said “Maybe they’re pregnant.”**

Bolding mine. You have to admire Annie’s restraint in leaving out the part where the whole bus fell apart laughing–or perhaps giving her the ‘80s movie slow-clap treatment–after her (totally not racist) _bon mot_ regarding the teenagers’ likelihood of being unwed mothers-to-be.

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### Author: ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2015, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/193 "2015-11-22T10:19:33Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> There’s another sales aphorism:.“Win an argument, lose a sale.”

> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Yep, very much along the same line.

sometimes it’s better to just fire some customers. “I might give you money for something” does not mean “but you have to eat my shit first.”

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### Author: ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2015, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/194 "2015-11-22T14:13:37Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> The back-story: I used to eat at places like Denny’s from time to time. When they asked me how I wanted my eggs, I always said “medium rare”. It was a joke. But they _never_ got it. Now, these were often older (yes, female) waitresses who seemed to be stuck in that kind of job, and not too bright.
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> I mentioned this to my boss at the time (this was circa 1986). His answer was “Well, there’s a reason those people are still waitresses and not software engineers.”

Maybe they just didn’t think it was funny. People who work customer service hear every joke possible a million times and every customer who tells one thinks that he or she is the funniest person ever for coming up with such an original quip. Usually they’re nether original nor funny.

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### Author: ![yawuntz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a5b964/32.png) [@yawuntz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yawuntz)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2015, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/195 "2015-11-22T20:12:30Z")

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Oh jeez that reminds me! We were kibitzing with a waitress one hungover morning and when she delivered our stuff she said, “let’s see, you’re the ham, you’re fried and you’re scrambled.” And she was right 😃

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### Author: ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/196 "2015-11-22T21:57:52Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> I could be sitting on my ass right now, getting disability on the government’s dime, but I chose to work.

If you chose to work, that means your injury didn’t prevent you from working, so how would you get disability?

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### Author: ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2015, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/197 "2015-11-22T22:22:59Z")

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A good lawyer?

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### Author: ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2015, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/198 "2015-11-23T00:02:17Z")

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> [@lance\_strongarm](#):
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> If you chose to work, that means your injury didn’t prevent you from working, so how would you get disability?

However injured or not you are, it seems that actually getting on disability is a crap-shoot, depending on just what doctor you happen to pick.

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### Author: ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2015, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/199 "2015-11-23T00:35:03Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> However injured or not you are, it seems that actually getting on disability is a crap-shoot, depending on just what doctor you happen to pick.

Or knowing someone who knows how to work the system. My late sister (legitimately disabled) was very proud of her ability to usher people through the system successfully.

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### Author: ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2015, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/200 "2015-11-23T22:49:13Z")

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> [@black\_rabbit](#):
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> Was that really necessary?

More necessary than your worthless post.

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