# No, dumb bitch, we don't take anyone's American Express card
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [November 16, 2015, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697 "2015-11-16T15:09:07Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2015, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/41 "2015-11-16T20:22:17Z")
> [@lieu](#):
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> I believe AmEx charges retailers 3% or so on purchases, maybe more. There’s a small but significant number that don’t take it for that reason. Consumers with the card should be used to this by now, unless they’re very new members.
I would think most Amex cardholders would also have a MasterCard or Visa card in their wallet.
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### Author:  [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2015, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/42 "2015-11-16T20:53:41Z")
> [@GrandWino](#):
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> Kind of my point. There was plenty of context in the story for people to draw their own conclusions w/o it being laid out unnecessarily right at the top.
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> Show don’t tell, Annie.
I think you’re missing something. She and billfish are stupid.
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### Author:  [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2015, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/43 "2015-11-16T21:10:47Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> I think you’re missing something. She and billfish are stupid.
Oh right.
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### Author:  [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2015, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/44 "2015-11-16T21:15:34Z")
Just goes to show you.
You can never tell a story on the SDMB without some ass coming out of the woodwork to pick on your choice of words.
Miserable tiny little people who live for picking at others to make themselves feel superior.
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### Author:  [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2015, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/45 "2015-11-16T21:16:24Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> he was Muslim.
paid in cash, must have been tatooed on him - Muslim… we do that, so we can’t be confused with the other people who look and dress funny.
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### Author:  [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2015, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/46 "2015-11-16T21:21:53Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> How about my Big Lots rewards card? Will you and your Jew friends take that?
No, but they do take 10% off Dick’s.
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### Author:  [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2015, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/47 "2015-11-16T21:25:26Z")
> [@Chimera](#):
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> Just goes to show you.
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> You can never tell a story on the SDMB without some ass coming out of the woodwork to pick on your choice of words.
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> Miserable tiny little people who live for picking at others to make themselves feel superior.
Screw you!
I do that sort of shit to make a living thank you very much!
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### Author:  [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2015, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/48 "2015-11-16T21:25:40Z")
> [@Chimera](#):
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> You can never tell a story on the SDMB without some ass coming out of the woodwork to pick on your choice of words.
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> Miserable tiny little people who live for picking at others to make themselves feel superior.
:dubious: As compared to the Pit OPs who voluntarily start entire threads for the sole purpose of “telling a story” with no other point than picking at others to make themselves feel superior?
Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy Pit threads and think they serve a useful purpose, but…pot, kettle, you know?
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### Author:  [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2015, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/49 "2015-11-16T21:28:13Z")
Pot…kettle…thug… I gets it!
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### Author:  [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2015, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/50 "2015-11-16T21:30:18Z")
> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Seriously. You know, folks, it’s possible to rant about idiot individuals’ idiot bigotry without indulging in bigoted stereotypes ourselves.
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> The subject of the OP offers plenty of target just for being an entitled, ignorant, paranoid, antisemitic bitch who assumes that her personal convenience should automatically override store policy and if it doesn’t, the only possible explanation must be racism and the appropriate response is being loudly obscene.
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> References to her weight and slurs about black people being criminals accomplish nothing except to inspire a bit of grudging sympathy for her.
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> She behaved like an inexcusable ass, but golly, some bits of this thread are making me understand how a black woman might get irrationally and aggressively paranoid about racism.
Are you implying what I said was racist:confused:
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### Author:  [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2015, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/51 "2015-11-16T21:33:56Z")
> [@Mr.Nylock](#):
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> Are you implying what I said was racist?
No no, good heavens, no. I am _stating_ that what you said was racist.
_(sits back, waits for indignant denial that there’s anything racist about the assumption that a black person using a credit card must have stolen it from somebody else)_
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### Author:  [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2015, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/52 "2015-11-16T21:42:43Z")
> [@Mr.Nylock](#):
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> Are you implying what I said was racist:confused:
Your’s was by far the most racist post of the thread, actually.
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### Author:  [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2015, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/53 "2015-11-16T21:44:17Z")
> [@Mr.Nylock](#):
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> She should have stolen a visa card; she’ll think twice about usong stolen amex cards from now on.
Where in the OP does it say that the Amex card was stolen? Nowhere, right? So you deciding that this black lady obviously must have stolen her credit card, to the point where she “should have stolen a visa card” instead… Yeah, pretty fucking racist.
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### Author:  [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2015, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/54 "2015-11-16T21:47:42Z")
He assumes she stole it because she was… _loud_. Yes, that’s it. Loud.
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### Author:  [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2015, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/55 "2015-11-16T21:50:44Z")
_This is going great._
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### Author:  [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2015, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/56 "2015-11-16T21:52:21Z")
> [@Kimstu](#):
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> No no, good heavens, no. I am _stating_ that what you said was racist.
> _(sits back, waits for indignant denial that there’s anything racist about the assumption that a black person using a credit card must have stolen it from somebody else)_
I don’t see it that way - there was much more in the story than the color of the person’s skin. It is the description of the behavior that is unusual to me not that a black person has a credit card.
I was in retail for many years, many of those in a predominantly black city. I had many customers of all races, very few people ever paid with cash. I did not take Amex; for the reasons people have already mentioned. The behavior displayed is highly unusual and is consistent with someone who is a criminal. the closest exact situation I have ever been in that was similar to this involved a white male.
I find it odd that your focus is on race given all the other elements of the story; but I can concede that using the term “big beautiful black woman” does give the whole thread a certain flavor that distracts from the main point - unusual belligerent behavior.
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### Author:  [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2015, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/57 "2015-11-16T21:56:34Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> He assumes she stole it because she was… _loud_. Yes, that’s it. Loud.
No , because she was belligerent and hostile. It has just been my experience that if people are belligerent and hostile that there is something nefarious going on.
As others have said in the thread, someone who has an Amex card should not be surprised when it is not accepted everywhere.
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### Author:  [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2015, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/58 "2015-11-16T22:07:18Z")
> [@Mr.Nylock](#):
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> I find it odd that your focus is on race given all the other elements of the story; but I can concede that using the term “big beautiful black woman” does give the whole thread a certain flavor that distracts from the main point - unusual belligerent behavior.
The main point of the story was that a black customer jumped to the conclusion that the reason the store wouldn’t take her credit card was because she was black.
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with Pitting said customer for that illogical inference and for being loud and offensive in complaining about it. As per the OP’s story, the customer behaved like an abusive bigoted asshole, and that’s a Pittin’.
There _is_ something wrong, however, with gratuitously pointing out that the customer was overweight, or gratuitously assuming that she was probably a criminal. If all you meant by your post was _“You know, people who get loud and abusive about credit cards being refused are often thieves who have stolen the card from somebody else and think that acting aggressive will throw the clerks off-balance so they won’t check the transaction carefully”_, then that’s what you should have said at the start.
Don’t troll with racist stereotypes and then dodge when you’re called on them by explaining that you were actually referring to an unrelated issue that you very carefully neglected to mention in your initial baited-hook post.
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### Author:  [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2015, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/59 "2015-11-16T22:09:35Z")
One aspect to the story that suggests the card was stolen is that she seemed to have _only_ the Am Ex card. I’d wager that somewhere around 100% of Am Ex cardholders also have at least one other credit card as well, if not several.
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### Author:  [@desertmonk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/desertmonk)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2015, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-dumb-bitch-we-dont-take-anyones-american-express-card/737697/60 "2015-11-16T22:14:58Z")
Why would somebody trying to use a stolen credit card draw a lot of attention to themselves?
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