# No fucking skirt steak in Kansas City

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [February 5, 2006, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117 "2006-02-05T18:03:53Z")
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### Author: ![DirkGntly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DirkGntly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DirkGntly)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2006, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/1 "2006-02-05T18:03:53Z")

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Yes, this is lame, but dammit - I’m from Texas, and was forcibly relocated to Kansas City by my company a little over a year ago. In that time, I have been unable to locate skirt steak for sale in Kansas City. Ergo, I cannot make fajitas on my grill. I used to do this every Super Bowl Sunday.

Now, I also have a gripe about beef prices here, period. A $1.99/lb. flank steak in Texas is $6.99 here!! And, you can hardly find an untrimmed cryo-pack brisket, and when you do, it’s close to $3.00/lb. and was just a little over half that in Texas. And this is supposed to be a beef and BBQ town!

Not to mention - store-brand H.E.B. bread “back home” was $0.69/loaf. Here? You have to buy it from a bread outlet store if you want it for under a buck.

Buying food in KC sucks.

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### Author: ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2006, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/2 "2006-02-05T18:08:36Z")

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Is it possible that they just call it something different like maybe Flank Steak?

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### Author: ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2006, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/3 "2006-02-05T18:14:33Z")

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Right- I have been told you can’t buy a New York steak in NY.

I have also heard that beef is cheap in that area- including Texas, too, sure. 😕

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### Author: ![DirkGntly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DirkGntly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DirkGntly)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2006, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/4 "2006-02-05T18:27:10Z")

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> [@askeptic](#):
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> Is it possible that they just call it something different like maybe Flank Steak?

Flank steak is from a different part of the critter than skirt steak. In fact, we asked the meat market guy about skirt steak, and he said they tried to carry it at one time, but ended up throwing most of it out since they couldn’t sell it. Now it’s a special-order item, and expen$ive.

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### Author: ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2006, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/5 "2006-02-05T19:27:28Z")

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Kansas City _KS or MO_?

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### Author: ![The\_Swan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_Swan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Swan)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2006, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/6 "2006-02-05T19:54:17Z")

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I can find most of the things on your list here in Atlanta. Though I’ve never seen 1.99/lb flank steak in over 20 years.

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### Author: ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2006, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/7 "2006-02-05T20:04:54Z")

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> [@DirkGntly](#):
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> Now, I also have a gripe about beef prices here, period. A $1.99/lb. flank steak in Texas is $6.99 here!! And, you can hardly find an untrimmed cryo-pack brisket, and when you do, it’s close to $3.00/lb. and was just a little over half that in Texas.

I feel your pain. When I moved to Arkansas flank steak and skirt steak became nigh impossible to find and when found it cost upwards of $5-7.00 per pound. The local market was having a sale this weekend and I bought a giant brisket for my smoker and it only cost about $1.70 a pound. I was thrilled. I can’t empathize with your bread problem though. Even in Texas I can’t remember the last time I spent less than a buck on a loaf of bread.

Marc

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### Author: ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2006, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/8 "2006-02-05T21:21:23Z")

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> [@DirkGntly](#):
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> Yes, this is lame, but dammit - I’m from Texas, and was forcibly relocated to Kansas City by my company a little over a year ago. In that time, I have been unable to locate skirt steak for sale in Kansas City. Ergo, I cannot make fajitas on my grill. I used to do this every Super Bowl Sunday.
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> Now, I also have a gripe about beef prices here, period. A $1.99/lb. flank steak in Texas is $6.99 here!! And, you can hardly find an untrimmed cryo-pack brisket, and when you do, it’s close to $3.00/lb. and was just a little over half that in Texas. And this is supposed to be a beef and BBQ town!
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> Not to mention - store-brand H.E.B. bread “back home” was $0.69/loaf. Here? You have to buy it from a bread outlet store if you want it for under a buck.
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> Buying food in KC sucks.

I’m not going to comment on skirt steak availability, as I really never even looked for it here in KC, but you really need to shop around for meat if you’re paying that much. Price Chopper stores in Overland Park will have sales where you can get Angus ribeye for $5.99 a pound, T-bone for $7.99 a pound…they even had boneless skinless chicken breasts for sale at $1.99 a pound last month, and I bought 10 pounds. But you go on the wrong day of the week, and everything is double or triple the price.

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### Author: ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2006, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/9 "2006-02-05T21:46:17Z")

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I assure KC has more than one Mercado.

You won’t find it at the Hy-Vee, but how about this that I googled:

El Pique  
3611 Main Street, Kansas City, MO 64111  
(816) 753-4890

It’s been a while since I’ve been to KC, maybe someone who lives there will step in.

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### Author: ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2006, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/10 "2006-02-05T21:47:55Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> I have been told you can’t buy a New York steak in NY.

Sure you can. We just call it a “strip steak” here.

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### Author: ![DirkGntly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DirkGntly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DirkGntly)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2006, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/11 "2006-02-05T22:55:49Z")

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> [@MGibson](#):
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> I feel your pain. When I moved to Arkansas flank steak and skirt steak became nigh impossible to find and when found it cost upwards of $5-7.00 per pound. The local market was having a sale this weekend and I bought a giant brisket for my smoker and it only cost about $1.70 a pound. I was thrilled. I can’t empathize with your bread problem though. Even in Texas I can’t remember the last time I spent less than a buck on a loaf of bread.

Hey, Marc…  
HEB is a regional store chain in Texas that does very, very well. They stretch from the Rio Grande Valley east to Houston, then north to Austin and west to Junction, and of course, just about every town with 3,000 people in between. They actually pretty successfully drove out Kroger, and have kept Albertson’s at bay for many years. Amazingly, they started out in my home town of Kerrville, around 1909 or so. One of the reasons they make bread so cheaply is that they make it themselves and don’t outsource it to other bakeries - [http://www.heb.com/yourHEBStore/SD-bakery-breadHoustonPlant.jsp](http://www.heb.com/yourHEBStore/SD-bakery-breadHoustonPlant.jsp)  
I believe they also have their own beef and poultry processing capability, too, not to mention any number of other enterprises that keep their costs highly competitive. Damn, I miss those stores…

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### Author: ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2006, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/12 "2006-02-05T23:21:01Z")

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Years ago I used to look at gore pics on the web, and there was one, which I won’t describe, that was labeled “skirt steak”.

Perhaps I can find this pic for you **DirkGntly** , you may never want to eat skirt steak again.

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### Author: ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2006, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/13 "2006-02-05T23:31:04Z")

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[Here - for those interested in the various cuts of meat - Ask the Meat Man (with pics)](http://www.askthemeatman.com/beef_flank_and_plate_primal_cuts.htm)

Flank Steak

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> The Beef Flank Steak is the only steak in the carcass containing an entire large muscle. Also, although most other steaks are cut across the muscle fibers, the flank steak fibers run the full length of the steak. To help tenderize these long fibers, you will notice the knife scores across the cut. Since the flank steak is one of the less tender steaks, it should be cooked with moist heat cookery.
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> A large, thin, flat steak that is flavorful and chewy, flank steak is great marinated, then quickly grilled and sliced across the grain to serve.

Skirt Steak

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> Shirt Steak is a boneless cut of beef from the lower part of the brisket. Cut from the beef flank, the skirt steak is the diaphragm muscle (which lies between the abdomen and chest cavity). It’s a long, flat piece of meat that’s flavorful but rather tough. Properly cooked, skirt steak can be quite tender and delicious. It can either be quickly grilled, or stuffed, rolled and braised. Recently, skirt steak has become quite fashionable because of the delicious Southwestern dish, fajitas.

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### Author: ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2006, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/14 "2006-02-05T23:35:50Z")

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Same thing in Seattle. I have to go pretty far afield to find actual skirt steak. Otherwise I have to use flank steak.

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### Author: ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2006, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/15 "2006-02-05T23:49:39Z")

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> [@Ukulele Ike](#):
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> Sure you can. We just call it a “strip steak” here.

I always thought the proper name was New York strip steak. All together.

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### Author: ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2006, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/16 "2006-02-06T00:29:11Z")

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Nah, it’s only called a “New York” cut over there in that hopelessly declasse place across the Hudson River.

Some butchers here do call it a “club steak,” however.

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### Author: ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2006, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/17 "2006-02-06T01:46:22Z")

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I’ve also never seen a skirt steak. I shop in Price Chopper that has a butcher counter, but no skity steak at all. Damn it, I want proper fajitas! And their flank steak prices vary widely. Sometimes it’s like $5.00/pound, and othertimes I see it as $2.00/pound.

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### Author: ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2006, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/18 "2006-02-06T02:20:43Z")

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The meat counter at Sam’s Club sells a cut they label as “flap meat” for about $5.00 a pound which resembles skirt steak. Is “flap meat” the same as skirt steak?

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#### Post date: [February 6, 2006, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/19 "2006-02-06T02:38:29Z")

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I know there has to be a Mexican grocery store in KC. Try going there, you’ll find it.

Hell, I live in Dallas and I do HALF my shopping at Danal’s just because of the prices and they also have hard to find spices that I wouldn’t normaly find at Kroger.

I cook a lot of Mexican dishes btw.

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### Author: ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2006, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/20 "2006-02-06T02:57:11Z")

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> [@Fear Itself](#):
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> The meat counter at Sam’s Club sells a cut they label as “flap meat” for about $5.00 a pound which resembles skirt steak. Is “flap meat” the same as skirt steak?

I dunno but I bet the Internet pics for “flap meat” would be similar to “skirt steak”…

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