# No fucking skirt steak in Kansas City
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [February 5, 2006, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117 "2006-02-05T18:03:53Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Lionne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lionne)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2006, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/21 "2006-02-06T04:15:00Z")
> [@Revtim](#):
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> Years ago I used to look at gore pics on the web, and there was one, which I won’t describe, that was labeled “skirt steak”.
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> Perhaps I can find this pic for you **DirkGntly** , you may never want to eat skirt steak again.
Or…you could go to [urbandictionary.com](http://urbandictionary.com) and look up their definition of skirt steak…
:eek: shudder
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### Author:  [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2006, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/22 "2006-02-06T04:41:25Z")
Hell, ever since I moved out here to the middle of nowhere, I do a little dance on the rare occasion that I can find flank steak.
I’d be thrilled to find a store that cuts its own meat, as none of the three grocery stores in town does so. I’m told there is a little country store about 30 minutes from here that will still cut a steak more than 1/2" thick if you want it, and I have to seek it out.
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### Author:  [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2006, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/23 "2006-02-06T04:55:48Z")
Skirt steak sounds lewd. Is there also trouser steak?
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### Author:  [@zagloba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zagloba)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2006, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/24 "2006-02-06T05:38:35Z")
“trouser steak” aka “tube steak”
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### Author:  [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2006, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/25 "2006-02-06T06:27:04Z")
Oh! Skirt steak! I read it as [steak skirt.](http://www.snopes.com/politics/arts/meatdress.asp)
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### Author:  [@butler1850](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butler1850)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2006, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/26 "2006-02-06T17:10:29Z")
Skirt steak is also the cut that most grocery stores use to make “steak tips.” Though, of course, they charge $6.49/lb for it.
We’ve had great luck buying it at BJ’s club for about $2.49/lb. Of course, you have to buy about 8 lbs of it at a time, and it comes in a cryovac meat package, and butcher it yourself.
I find it makes better roulards than flank steak, and certainly makes mighty tastey tips.
As for not being able to find it, most of the time, it requires finding a butcher that will special order, or a wholesale club that stocks it. Most of your supermarket butchers aren’t very good (exceptions exist), and may not be aware that the piece of meat they are cutting against the grain into tips is in fact what you’re looking for.
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### Author:  [@Kitchen\_Wench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kitchen_Wench)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2006, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/27 "2006-02-06T18:42:17Z")
Dirk- I’ve seen, with my own eyes, skirt steak at Price Chopper and HyVee in Independence. I don’t know where in town you are, but may I direct you to the BEST butcher shop in the KC metro area?
Bichelmeyer Meats
706 Cheyenne Ave
Kansas City, KS
Phone: (913) 342-5945
(courtesy of Switchboard)
Bichelmeyer’s has every damned part of beef, pork, lamb, chicken & turkey you’d ever want… And a few parts you’d never want. Check them out.
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### Author:  [@Kitchen\_Wench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kitchen_Wench)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2006, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/28 "2006-02-06T18:45:05Z")
Sorry, I forgot to add that their prices are very reasonable too. And their meat counter is as long as my house.
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### Author:  [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2006, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/29 "2006-02-06T19:04:53Z")
I’ve noticed beef is much more expensive here in Saint Louis than it was back in Texas, also. But lamb is cheaper and more widely available, so there’s that.
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### Author:  [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2006, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/30 "2006-02-06T20:58:26Z")
> [@](#):
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> No fucking skirt steak in Kansas City
I’m pretty sure that Texas is the _only_ place that would be legal.
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### Author:  [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2006, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/31 "2006-02-06T21:07:41Z")
> [@Doctor Jackson](#):
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> I’m pretty sure that Texas is the _only_ place that would be legal.
I dunno, a bunch of Texas cattlemen tried to sue Oprah just for _insulting_ some beef. Knowing it carnally is probably a horse whippin’ o-ffense.
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### Author:  [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2006, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/32 "2006-02-06T21:10:45Z")
Here, skirt steak is called “teriyaki” style beef.
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### Author:  [@DirkGntly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DirkGntly)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2006, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/33 "2006-02-06T23:55:02Z")
> [@Kitchen Wench](#):
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> Dirk- I’ve seen, with my own eyes, skirt steak at Price Chopper and HyVee in Independence. I don’t know where in town you are, but may I direct you to the BEST butcher shop in the KC metro area?
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> Bichelmeyer Meats
> 706 Cheyenne Ave
> Kansas City, KS
> Phone: (913) 342-5945
> (courtesy of Switchboard)
>
> Bichelmeyer’s has every damned part of beef, pork, lamb, chicken & turkey you’d ever want… And a few parts you’d never want. Check them out.
Thanks, KW -
I’m up in Gladstone, and we’ve checked the Hy-Vee, two different Price Choppers, a Wal-Mart and a Sam’s - none have skirt steak. Of course, it defeats the purpose if the skirt steak is $6.00/lb, too. It’s supposed to be a nasty, tough, CHEAAAAAAP cut of meat - thus the reason for fajitas to exist. I’ll have to look into Bichelmeyer’s, though. Thanks again!
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### Author:  [@DirkGntly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DirkGntly)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2006, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/34 "2006-02-06T23:56:04Z")
> [@Homebrew](#):
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> I’ve noticed beef is much more expensive here in Saint Louis than it was back in Texas, also. But lamb is cheaper and more widely available, so there’s that.
Hmm…maybe I should start looking into Q’ing some lamb…
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### Author:  [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2006, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/35 "2006-02-07T00:03:27Z")
Just you try finding lamb in Iowa, though. There in hog & cow country it’s practically a controlled substance.
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### Author:  [@yoyodyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yoyodyne)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2006, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/36 "2006-02-07T03:39:33Z")
My first thought was “that’s a reasonable law…”
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### Author:  [@Kitchen\_Wench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kitchen_Wench)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2006, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/37 "2006-02-07T06:20:48Z")
> [@DirkGntly](#):
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> Thanks, KW -
> I’m up in Gladstone, and we’ve checked the Hy-Vee, two different Price Choppers, a Wal-Mart and a Sam’s - none have skirt steak. Of course, it defeats the purpose if the skirt steak is $6.00/lb, too. It’s supposed to be a nasty, tough, CHEAAAAAAP cut of meat - thus the reason for fajitas to exist. I’ll have to look into Bichelmeyer’s, though. Thanks again!
No problemo, Dirk. I tried to call them today for a price on their skirt steak, but they’re closed on Sunday & Monday. You should give them a shout later in the week or something.
Oh, and yeah… skirt steak is supposed to be a nasty, cheap cut. Thank the Food Network chefs for letting the cat out of the bag. If it weren’t for Michael Chiarello and Emeril making such a big to do about skirt steak, it wouldn’t be en vogue and expensive. Bastards. The upside is that eventually, all the good steaks and roasts will become cheap because everyone will be scrambling to get their fill of tripe, brains, hearts and sweetbreads. But I’m not holding my breath…
Seriously, I’m sorry you’re having a hard time adjusting to the climes of KC. Please tell me you’ve at least found a good BBQ joint.
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### Author:  [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2006, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/38 "2006-02-07T07:06:39Z")
> [@Kalhoun](#):
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> I always thought the proper name was New York strip steak. All together.
[Airplane!]
I always thought the proper name was New York strip steak.
[/Airplane!]
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### Author:  [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2006, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/39 "2006-02-07T09:01:19Z")
A lot of cheap food regularly eaten by the poor folk are now expensive. Shrimp, lobster, chicken wings, skirt steak, ribs, etc. were once pretty cheap until people figured out how good some of that stuff is.
Marc
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### Author:  [@DirkGntly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DirkGntly)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2006, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-fucking-skirt-steak-in-kansas-city/343117/40 "2006-02-07T13:00:02Z")
> [@Kitchen Wench](#):
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> Seriously, I’m sorry you’re having a hard time adjusting to the climes of KC. Please tell me you’ve at least found a good BBQ joint.
KW - I’m from Texas and thus, _there is no good BBQ in Kansas City._😉
Actually, I’ve noticed a significant difference in KC BBQ and Texas BBQ. The way BBQ is made up here, it’s basically roasted (you know, as in pot roast), with sauce slathered all over it. Seems like it’s the sauce that makes the BBQ up here for the most part (at least in the restaurants). Back home, the flavor comes from the woods that are selected to slow-smoke the meat, mostly mesquite, but also quite often oak and other hardwoods. It’s the mesquite smoking that gives Texas BBQ brisket its very unique flavor. The brisket is cooked with the fat on (hard to find untrimmed cryo-pak brisket up here sometimes, too), and that makes it tender and juicy enough that you can just slice and eat the brisket without sauce, and it is quite enjoyable that way.
Case in point, I have not-so-next-door neighbors in my cul-de-sac up here that came over for a big neighborhood block party we had back at the end of July. I was responsible for cooking the brisket for the shin-dig (our immediate neighbors who knew about my brisket insisted I handle the meat-makings). Turns out these not-so-next-door neighbors are competitive BBQ’ers in the area, and later in the evening, I caught the husband semi-casually grilling my wife about what I’d done to get my brisket like that, because he’d like to try it sometime. I considered that quite a compliment, considering I cooked it in the “traditional” Texas style - and they weren’t using sauce to flavor the meat when they were eating it. 😃
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