# No, HERE's the true evidence for the End Times

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**Created:** [May 29, 2011, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-heres-the-true-evidence-for-the-end-times/583616 "2011-05-29T00:36:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-heres-the-true-evidence-for-the-end-times/583616/1 "2011-05-29T00:36:51Z")

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A friend just e-mailed this to me. Have at it:

> [@](#):
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> I am being continually warned about the end. But two days ago (5/19/2011) a verification of a previous special message came.
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> After my vision on September 11, 2001 about Jesus crying to the Father to hold the four winds I learned that our cases (those living) are now before the judgment seat since that time, but there is one dream in particular God keeps illustrating over and over. I saw in a dream in 2002 that a wall would be built in Israel (a couple of months after my dream, work began to build the ‘apartheid wall’).
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> The wall was so huge in the dream that it spanned from horizon to horizon and only those who were permitted could enter Jerusalem at this future time.
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> In this future moment I could tell that there was nothing left that was redeemable in physical Israel and it was extremely hostile in nature but there was a reason I had to go in if only to see the vision, it just wasn’t a pleasant thought. I had to walk through a barbed wire gated entry to get to an electronic turnstile which permitted someone in, then locked and held them inside so papers could be passed to the guard while the visitor remained imprisoned in the turnstile. I later saw a picture exactly like my dream.
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> While I was in the gate I saw a sign written in three languages (like the sign above Jesus’ head on the cross) that read “mortal danger, anyone who passes or damages this fence endangers his life”. Here is a picture that I later was led to of the sign I saw in my dream.
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> While I was in the turnstile I heard the voice of an angel of God quote 1 Thessalonians 5:3 “For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.” Then I woke up.
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> Today, nine years later the fence is almost complete.
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> On Tuesday, January 20, 2009 While talking to my friend Scott on the phone I witnessed Barak Obama being inaugurated and I heard that same voice quote the same text from 1Thessalonians which I believe was a warning that the time is soon for the peace accord that will be followed by certain destruction.
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> Two days ago (5/19/2011) When the president said in his presidential address that his main agenda till the end of his presidency is peace in the Middle East, the Spirit of remembrance caused me to remember the angel say “when they cry peace and safety then sudden destruction comes”. This was a strong warning for me to be prepared for the soon coming crisis and to warn others.
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> The power of the unadulterated word of God has been unfolding to those who submit to the will of the Father.
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> The cry is heard “get ready, get ready” from the righteous angels of God, and His Holy Spirit is about to be let lose from the throne in heaven, that when He comes it will be like a celestial dam breaking lose.
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> Here’s more about the wall.  
> [Is it a Fence? Is it a Wall? No, it's a Separation Barrier | The Electronic Intifada](http://electronicintifada.net/content/it-fence-it-wall-no-its-separation-barrier/4715)
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> I believe I have been showed by God that when this pope dies the next **pope/ king** will be Satan appearing as an angel of light. We’ll see. Please pray for guidance on this important subject. Love from Brother James.

(emphasis original)

Now doesn’t that make the rest of you feel foolish?

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-heres-the-true-evidence-for-the-end-times/583616/2 "2011-05-29T01:07:24Z")

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I hope your friend intended the email as a joke, because if one of my friends emailed that to me, I would be yelling at him soon afterwards. There’s a lot of behaviors I excuse in my friends, and I know I’m hardly perfect, but none of them better be these end-of-the-world revelation idiots

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-heres-the-true-evidence-for-the-end-times/583616/3 "2011-05-29T01:29:57Z")

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God gave me a vision in 2001 also. It was uncannily accurate. I saw the war in Iraq. I saw the election of Barack Obama. I saw the hurricane flood New Orleans. I saw the tsunami strike Southeast Asia. I saw the Red Sox would win the world series. I saw that James Cameron would top his Titanic box office record. I saw that there would be a remake of Battlestar Galactica. And I saw that Ruben would beat Clay on American Idol.

While I’ve known all these things since 2001, I didn’t see any need to mention them before now. But you have to agree those are pretty amazing predictions, so you should believe everything I say now.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-heres-the-true-evidence-for-the-end-times/583616/4 "2011-05-29T01:35:42Z")

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Most of those predictions might not be so much prophetic insights as pervasive pessimism.

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**Author:** ![Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enter_the_Flagon)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-heres-the-true-evidence-for-the-end-times/583616/5 "2011-05-29T02:32:25Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> While I’ve known all these things since 2001, I didn’t see any need to mention them before now. But you have to agree those are pretty amazing predictions, so you should believe everything I say now.

Not until you pass this little test.

Who will win the 1970 World Series?

Go on, predict that, I dare you.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-heres-the-true-evidence-for-the-end-times/583616/6 "2011-05-29T03:24:05Z")

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> [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](#):
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> Who will win the 1970 World Series?

Roof roof

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-heres-the-true-evidence-for-the-end-times/583616/7 "2011-05-29T14:44:57Z")

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I’m not seeing a debate here. Moved from GD to MPSIMS.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-heres-the-true-evidence-for-the-end-times/583616/8 "2011-05-29T16:12:03Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Roof roof

Damnit! I told you to say Brooks Robinson!

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**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-heres-the-true-evidence-for-the-end-times/583616/9 "2011-05-29T17:14:46Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I’m not seeing a debate here. Moved from GD to MPSIMS.

Fair enough.

It would be interesting if there were such things as competent, authoritative end-times theologians who could set my friend straight, but of course what we have is just an endless variety of crackpots.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-heres-the-true-evidence-for-the-end-times/583616/10 "2011-05-29T21:38:15Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> Damnit! I told you to say Brooks Robinson!

Rorry, Raggy.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-heres-the-true-evidence-for-the-end-times/583616/11 "2011-05-29T21:56:51Z")

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I once had a dream that I was standing in front of a large audience. The environment around me was ice cold, and I could fill the chill making it’s way into the bones of my feet as all those eyes bored into my soul. To my horror, I realized that that I was completely naked and defenseless as an enraged half man-half giraffe glided towards me with inhuman speed, screaming obscenities.

Six months later I was arrested for indecent exposure at a performance of _The Lion King on Ice_.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-heres-the-true-evidence-for-the-end-times/583616/12 "2011-05-29T22:53:52Z")

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I once had a dream that it was raining.

Then a week later it rained.

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**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-heres-the-true-evidence-for-the-end-times/583616/13 "2011-05-30T03:26:54Z")

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I myself have had many dreams wherein the Messiah shows up.

I have had even more dreams about being in plays and not knowing my lines, getting lost in hotels and summer camps, and being naked in public.

I am not going into the lottery-predicting business any time soon.  
(Actually, my friend once pressured me into picking lotto numbers for her because she was convinced I had spiritual powers or something. She played my numbers, and every single one of them turned out to be one off. I’m not sure what the message was here).

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-heres-the-true-evidence-for-the-end-times/583616/14 "2011-05-30T03:50:33Z")

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> [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](#):
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> Who will win the 1970 World Series?
> 
> Go on, predict that, I dare you.

San Francisco '49ers, of course. 🙂

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-heres-the-true-evidence-for-the-end-times/583616/15 "2011-05-30T14:40:04Z")

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I once dreamt I could breathe underwater. We’re going to the beach today… I shall fulfill the prophesy today; clearly I’m chosen to be Aquaman.

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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-heres-the-true-evidence-for-the-end-times/583616/16 "2011-05-30T18:39:30Z")

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I dreamed there would be thousands and thousands of nutcases, wearing tinfoil hats and drinking tea at a tea party…and a woman from the cold north would swoop down upon our land and spread lies, inaccuracies and a brood of extraordinarily fertile children upon the masses.  
I dreamed there would someday be electronic devices that could be used for good - education and research - but would instead become a vehicle for the dumbest of the dumb to spew their insane religious babble and vote for country singers on reality television shows.  
I also dreamed the exact correct lottery numbers, 300 times in a row! However, they were always the winning numbers from the week before.
