# No Hitter

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-hitter/171663>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [April 28, 2003, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-hitter/171663 "2003-04-28T13:59:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![zev\_steinhardt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/97f17d/32.png) [@zev\_steinhardt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zev_steinhardt)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-hitter/171663/21 "2003-04-28T18:49:34Z")

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> \*Originally posted by BobT \*  
> \*\*Mark Gardner gave up hits in the 10th innings, \*\*

Thanks for the correction, **BobT**. Obviously the no-hitter list I was using was wrong then.

Zev Steinhardt

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-hitter/171663/22 "2003-04-28T18:59:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by zev\_steinhardt \*  
> \*\*OK. Ken Johnson (Hou) lost a 1-0 decision on 4/23/1964, despite pitching a no-hitter.
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> Mark Gardner pitched 10 no-hit innings on 7/26/1991, but lost the game 1-0.
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> Zev Steinhardt \*\*

**zev** , I thought a Yankee fan like you would also mention [Andy Hawkins](http://www.pubdim.net/baseballlibrary/excerpts/records_registry20.stm) infamous 1990 no-hitter, which he lost 4-0 on five walks and several errors.

Although Hawkins was credited with a complete-game no-hitter at the time, the rules were subsequently changed, and he no longer is.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-hitter/171663/23 "2003-04-28T19:01:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by zev\_steinhardt \*  
> \*\*OK. Ken Johnson (Hou) lost a 1-0 decision on 4/23/1964, despite pitching a no-hitter.  
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If Houston had been the visiting team, and their opponent had been leading in the bottom of the ninth (and thus not taken their turn at bat) would Johnson still have been credited with a no-hitter (despite only pitching 9 innings)?

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**Author:** ![zev\_steinhardt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/97f17d/32.png) [@zev\_steinhardt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zev_steinhardt)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-hitter/171663/24 "2003-04-28T19:04:14Z")

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If Houston was the visiting team, then the bottom of the ninth would not have been played.

A similar thing happened to Andy Hawkins in the late 80s. He was pitching in Chicago against the White Sox and was throwing a no-hitter. In the bottom of the eighth, the Yanks committed a few errors and the Sox scored four runs. So, Hawkins pitched eight innings without giving up a hit. The Yanks didn’t score in the top of the ninth. Since Chicago was ahead, they did not bat in the ninth and Hawkins does not have credit for a no hitter.

Zev Steinhardt

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