# No, I'm not an antisocial bitch -- I just loathe \*YOU\*

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 19, 2004, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-im-not-an-antisocial-bitch-i-just-loathe-you/269938 "2004-10-19T00:14:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-im-not-an-antisocial-bitch-i-just-loathe-you/269938/1 "2004-10-19T00:14:31Z")

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I get along with most people very easily, truly I do, but there is one woman at my work who I can barely stand to be in the same room with.

Why do I hate her? Because she has exactly two topics of conversation. Which are: 1) the vast intellectual superiority of her family and relatives which is proven by her explaining in amazing detail all the myriad ways they are ripping off the system and/or other people and 2) how stupid everyone else in the world who DOESN’T do these things is. The stunts her petty criminal kin have pulled off (at least according to her) rang from stealing money by hurrying to occupy restaurant tables/booths before the waitress can clear them, to intimidating store clerks into giving them ‘refunds’ on items that were way old and frequently not even bought at that store, to claiming not to have received items they bought from EBay and threatening bad feedback, to switching price tags, and on and on. Every sleazy petty way to take advantage of other people you can imagine, she and her crew have probably done.

AND she follows up by making fun of people who won’t do the same. Like how our other coworker who hurt her back while at home was so stupid to not to fake an accident at work.

She started in on this right after she was hired, yes, boasting of her thieving ways to perfect strangers! and continued to do it straight along, despite various attempts by the rest of us to change the subject or get her to shut up or disagree with her. Basically, none of us were willing to confront her loudly and viciously enough to get her to stop. Yeah, we’re a bunch of wimps.

But even worms will turn, if you give them a big enough opportunity. Today at lunch Ms. Fagin started telling everyone there about how they hadn’t reported their mother’s death to Social Security right away, so they could keep collecting her checks AND how they’d talked some masseur into submitting claims that he was still giving her regular massages for her back problem and spliting the money with them.

So I pulled out my notebook and started writing this down. Making no attempt to disguise it. She didn’t even blink as she kept on boasting about how they’d gotten enough ‘extra’ money to buy big screen tvs for both sisters and herself. Called it ‘Mama’s legacy’ to them, and laughed.

So I asked her, “What was your mother’s name again?”

She stared at me, suspicion finally appearing in her nastly little eyes. “What d’ya want to know for?”

“Because it will make it a little easier for the Social Security people when they investigate your fraud.”

Heh. I bet you know how the next twenty minutes went: threats, accusations, pleadings, abuse and so forth. The best part was when she actually said it would be a matter of ‘her word vs. mine.’ Before I could even point out that it would a matter of what the SS and Medicaid records said, three other women piped up with “and my word.” Yay for the worms!

So then she was left with flipflopping rapidly between claims of “I was just making it up” and begging “If you report that I’ll go to jail!”

Guess what? I DON’T CARE. You are a loathesome and stupid person who not only committed crimes but boasted about them to people who aren’t criminals and who don’t like you. She made so much noise a security guard showed up, and ended up escorting her to Personnel, and she wasn’t at her desk for the rest of the day.

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**Author:** ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-im-not-an-antisocial-bitch-i-just-loathe-you/269938/2 "2004-10-19T00:25:31Z")

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Report her to SS, please. What she did is disgusting (and if she didn’t do it, bragging about it is almost equally disgusting).

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**Author:** ![midget](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90db22/32.png) [@midget](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/midget)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-im-not-an-antisocial-bitch-i-just-loathe-you/269938/3 "2004-10-19T00:37:44Z")

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I think you only succeeded in screwing yourself over. If you report it now, you’re in for an ungodly amount of harassment. You may even see some trouble if you don’t report it, as I’m sure she’s more than a little hotheaded about the event in your post.

I would’ve just reported it silently and smiled to myself.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-im-not-an-antisocial-bitch-i-just-loathe-you/269938/4 "2004-10-19T00:44:45Z")

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Good for you for reporting this. Please follow through and keep us updated.

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**Author:** ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-im-not-an-antisocial-bitch-i-just-loathe-you/269938/5 "2004-10-19T00:50:06Z")

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> [@midget](#):
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> I think you only succeeded in screwing yourself over. If you report it now, you’re in for an ungodly amount of harassment. You may even see some trouble if you don’t report it, as I’m sure she’s more than a little hotheaded about the event in your post.

And if she harasses you, go straight to your boss. This is a situation that people are likely to be sympathetic towards you about…

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-im-not-an-antisocial-bitch-i-just-loathe-you/269938/6 "2004-10-19T00:55:38Z")

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Ditto what **Diogenes** said.

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**Author:** ![The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Asbestos_Mango)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-im-not-an-antisocial-bitch-i-just-loathe-you/269938/7 "2004-10-19T00:59:34Z")

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> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> … AND how they’d talked some masseur into submitting claims that he was still giving her regular massages for her back problem and spliting the money with them.

Any way you can find out who this guy is and report him, too? My profession has enough problems with people assuming that massage therapist=prostitute and people in the health care profession being unwilling to acknowledge that massage can be be beneficial for soft tissue injuries without also having to deal with gaining a reputation as perpetrators of insurance fraud.

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**Author:** ![Chairman\_Pow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Chairman\_Pow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chairman_Pow)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-im-not-an-antisocial-bitch-i-just-loathe-you/269938/8 "2004-10-19T01:06:18Z")

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> [@The Asbestos Mango](#):
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> Any way you can find out who this guy is and report him, too? My profession has enough problems with people assuming that massage therapist=prostitute and people in the health care profession being unwilling to acknowledge that massage can be be beneficial for soft tissue injuries without also having to deal with gaining a reputation as perpetrators of insurance fraud.

I think the investigation will uncover this as it appears that this individual’s signature on some forms is required to perpetuate the fraud.

If you could provide the date of death, that would likely help things along.

Also, congratulations on doing the right thing.

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**Author:** ![Brainiac4](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brainiac4/32/3534_2.png) [@Brainiac4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brainiac4)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-im-not-an-antisocial-bitch-i-just-loathe-you/269938/9 "2004-10-19T01:11:36Z")

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Yay, **Starving**! The world needs more people like you and fewer like her.

Perhaps quietly reporting it might have been easier, but far less satisfying. And if she harasses you as a result, you can get her ass fired.

I really loathe cheaters and freeloaders, especially those who abuse systems that are there to support the needy.

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**Author:** ![midget](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90db22/32.png) [@midget](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/midget)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-im-not-an-antisocial-bitch-i-just-loathe-you/269938/10 "2004-10-19T01:21:06Z")

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I wasn’t referring to harassment at work, BTW. It wouldn’t too hard to find your address, and they (your coworker and her family/friends) could certainly cause a lot of stress.

I’m not condemning what you did in any way, I’m just giving you some things you may not have thought about. She’s obviously the type that doesn’t mind doing something illegal for her own gain, and now you may be the only thing in between standing between her and a (much needed) jail cell.

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-im-not-an-antisocial-bitch-i-just-loathe-you/269938/11 "2004-10-19T01:36:01Z")

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I’m not sure if this is a good idea or not, but wouldn’t it be wise to tell your boss that you’re going to report this person’s mother’s activities to SS. That way he/she is kept in the loop and any retalliation will be looked on with a bit of skepticism.

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**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-im-not-an-antisocial-bitch-i-just-loathe-you/269938/12 "2004-10-19T01:52:31Z")

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**Yay!!!** Score one (at least) for honesty and decency. I despise people like that.

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**Author:** ![DadWagonDriver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/edb3f5/32.png) [@DadWagonDriver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DadWagonDriver)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-im-not-an-antisocial-bitch-i-just-loathe-you/269938/13 "2004-10-19T02:03:13Z")

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> [@midget](#):
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> I think you only succeeded in screwing yourself over. If you report it now, you’re in for an ungodly amount of harassment. You may even see some trouble if you don’t report it, as I’m sure she’s more than a little hotheaded about the event in your post.
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> I would’ve just reported it silently and smiled to myself.

[TerribleTerryTate]

DON’T BE BRINGIN’ THAT WEAK ASS SHIT UP IN THIS HOUSE!

[/TTT]

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**Author:** ![DadWagonDriver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/edb3f5/32.png) [@DadWagonDriver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DadWagonDriver)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-im-not-an-antisocial-bitch-i-just-loathe-you/269938/14 "2004-10-19T02:04:29Z")

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Oh, and thanks for doing the right thing, OP.

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**Author:** ![Keapon\_Laffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e274bd/32.png) [@Keapon\_Laffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Keapon_Laffin)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-im-not-an-antisocial-bitch-i-just-loathe-you/269938/15 "2004-10-19T02:17:43Z")

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Well done. Did you actually submit it? Or was that part a bluff?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-im-not-an-antisocial-bitch-i-just-loathe-you/269938/16 "2004-10-19T03:23:29Z")

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And the moral of the story is: don’t brag about how a good a thief you are to the people you’re stealing from.

Good for you, **Starving**. If there were more people like you in the world, there’d be less people like her.

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**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-im-not-an-antisocial-bitch-i-just-loathe-you/269938/17 "2004-10-19T04:19:30Z")

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Another voice here: Thank you!

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-im-not-an-antisocial-bitch-i-just-loathe-you/269938/18 "2004-10-19T05:57:12Z")

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Woohoo! Rock on, **Starving**!

**midget** , this woman is making it worse for the rest of us, and SS fraud is nothing to sniff at.

I hope they go medieval on her thieving ass.

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**Author:** ![Jurhael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cab0a1/32.png) [@Jurhael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurhael)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-im-not-an-antisocial-bitch-i-just-loathe-you/269938/19 "2004-10-19T07:15:32Z")

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WOW! YES! Great job!

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**Author:** ![Largo62](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@Largo62](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Largo62)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-im-not-an-antisocial-bitch-i-just-loathe-you/269938/20 "2004-10-19T08:47:46Z")

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Just let the boss know that this douchebag thinks theft and fraud are good ideas, and see how long the bitch is still employed there.

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