# No Iraqui ever called me a nigger..

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-iraqui-ever-called-me-a-nigger/152268>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 2, 2003, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-iraqui-ever-called-me-a-nigger/152268 "2003-02-02T06:44:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![moc.liamtoh\_rorrim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f17d59/32.png) [@moc.liamtoh\_rorrim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moc.liamtoh_rorrim)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2003, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-iraqui-ever-called-me-a-nigger/152268/1 "2003-02-02T06:44:02Z")

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So there was an ABC (Australian Born Chinese) wearing a “No Iraqui ever called me a nigger” shirt…  
Now i get what she is trying to say, using the whole Cassius Clay (or was he Ali at the time??) quote… but it just doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me…

Its not like Australia is racist towards her… Which is what i believe Ali was leaning towards.  
the US was racist towards black people, then asked him to fight for the US.  
Anyone care to lead me in the right direction?

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**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2003, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-iraqui-ever-called-me-a-nigger/152268/2 "2003-02-02T07:27:09Z")

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10 Heh?  
20 DNFTT  
30 GOSUB 10

Tripler  
Heh, what?

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**Author:** ![Berkut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@Berkut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Berkut)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2003, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-iraqui-ever-called-me-a-nigger/152268/3 "2003-02-02T07:41:15Z")

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I think that should be “30 GOTO 10”. After all, you don’t have a RETURN command in there anywhere.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2003, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-iraqui-ever-called-me-a-nigger/152268/4 "2003-02-02T11:36:43Z")

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I’d say the ABC here was disagreeing with a potential war on Iraq, and used a rather dumb way of doing so. When Ali said it, it was applicable. For an Australian Chinese to suggest that no Iraqi ever called her a slur for black folks, combined with the historical context of the quote (she doesn’t have to join the US army, as she is not American, and there is no draft anyway), is mind-boggingly stupid IMHO.

And Tripler, not every newbie is a troll.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2003, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-iraqui-ever-called-me-a-nigger/152268/5 "2003-02-02T15:03:43Z")

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My dog drinks beer. He’s a mean drunk…

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**Author:** ![moc.liamtoh\_rorrim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f17d59/32.png) [@moc.liamtoh\_rorrim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moc.liamtoh_rorrim)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-iraqui-ever-called-me-a-nigger/152268/6 "2003-02-04T07:13:39Z")

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NCB can you please explain your comment?  
I take it as thought you are refering to me as a troll… were you not?

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**Author:** ![Gerome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85e7bf/32.png) [@Gerome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gerome)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-iraqui-ever-called-me-a-nigger/152268/7 "2003-02-04T11:40:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by moc.liamtoh@rorrim \*  
> \*\*So there was an ABC (Australian Born Chinese) wearing a “No Iraqui ever called me a nigger” shirt…  
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Was this on Channel [V] at the Adelaide BDO? Or has it happened more than once? Cos I think I was watching the same show…

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-iraqui-ever-called-me-a-nigger/152268/8 "2003-02-04T12:58:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by moc.liamtoh@rorrim \*  
> \*\*NCB can you please explain your comment?  
> I take it as thought you are refering to me as a troll… were you not? \*\*

No.

It was a non sequiter for **Coldfire**.

Why didn’t you ask that about **Tripler** or **Joey G**?

Anyways… hope you find it fun here at The Dope.

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**Author:** ![SCSimmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@SCSimmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCSimmons)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-iraqui-ever-called-me-a-nigger/152268/9 "2003-02-04T15:40:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Joey G \*  
> \*\*I think that should be “30 GOTO 10”. After all, you don’t have a RETURN command in there anywhere. \*\*

A) Real programmers don’t use ‘GOTO’. (OK, real programmers don’t use BASIC, but anyway …)

B) As written, it’s not actually an _infinite_ loop, because it’ll eventually lead to a stack overflow. Which is probably a better analogy to the poster’s state of mind than the equivalent program with a GOTO …

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-iraqui-ever-called-me-a-nigger/152268/10 "2003-02-04T15:48:48Z")

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Lordy, you people are young. But if you watch _Forrest Gump_, during the scene at the “Black Panther party”, when Forrest sees the SDS guy slap Jenny, there’s a painted sign you can see briefly in the background, “No Vietnamese Ever Called Me Nigger”.

It was a popular anti-war slogan during a time when anti-war slogans were popular. “Make love not war!” “Hell no, we won’t go!” “LBJ, LBJ, How many kids have you killed today?” “Down with the Amerikan imperialist capitalist fascist pigs, waging war against the innocent Vietnamese people!” And so forth.

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**Author:** ![manwithaplan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@manwithaplan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manwithaplan)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-iraqui-ever-called-me-a-nigger/152268/11 "2003-02-04T16:06:38Z")

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**Lib** , I think the OP is aware of that - he/she refers to the Ali quote in the context of the Vietnam War.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-iraqui-ever-called-me-a-nigger/152268/12 "2003-02-04T16:12:44Z")

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Well, yeah, but _everybody_ wore those tee shirts and chanted those slogans back then. It wasn’t just Afro-Americans. It just appears to me that the new generation has appropriated some retro slogans.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-iraqui-ever-called-me-a-nigger/152268/13 "2003-02-04T16:29:56Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Libertarian \*  
> \*\*Lordy, you people are young. But if you watch _Forrest Gump_, during the scene at the “Black Panther party”, when Forrest sees the SDS guy slap Jenny, there’s a painted sign you can see briefly in the background, “No Vietnamese Ever Called Me Nigger”.
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> It was a popular anti-war slogan during a time when anti-war slogans were popular. “Make love not war!” “Hell no, we won’t go!” “LBJ, LBJ, How many kids have you killed today?” “Down with the Amerikan imperialist capitalist fascist pigs, waging war against the innocent Vietnamese people!” And so forth. \*\*

Thanks for clearing that up **Lib** , I was confused for a minute.

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**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-iraqui-ever-called-me-a-nigger/152268/14 "2003-02-04T16:42:03Z")

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Nothing wrong with the slogan. It was a valid anti-war slogan then, and IMO is still a valid one now. You don’t have to be Black to use it in solidarity.

I certainly don’t know whether Australia supports the US’ war drive towards Iraq or not, but I’m quite sure racism isn’t completely absent Down Under (unless the Aborigines are suddenly getting treated better) and that some of it’s been directed at Asians and those of Asian descent.
