# No Joker for third Batman movie **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 4, 2010, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-joker-for-third-batman-movie/541982 "2010-06-04T21:35:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-joker-for-third-batman-movie/541982/21 "2010-06-05T04:39:44Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > I think Ledger’s performance was good, but also highly overrated. The guy playing Two-Face was better in that movie, frankly. You’re out of your mind! Two-Face was not even remarkable. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-joker-for-third-batman-movie/541982/22 "2010-06-05T04:43:25Z")
Aaron Eckhart was great as Harvey Dent and Two-Face. I was much more into his performance than Ledger as the Joker. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-joker-for-third-batman-movie/541982/23 "2010-06-05T05:29:49Z")
Was it because he thought about the future? ---
**Author:** ![Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f08c70/32.png) [@Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Brother_Walker)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-joker-for-third-batman-movie/541982/24 "2010-06-05T06:31:01Z")
I’m not sure if I’d agree that Ledger’s performance couldn’t be topped. I’d like to see a (younger) Christopher Walken, but now that he’s already played his cards, I guess I’d like to see Woody Harrelson give the role a go. (Yeah, I know - call me crazy 😉 ) Although, if they did manage to cast the Joker role, I’d like to see [Gillian Jacobs](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1843026/) in the role of Harley Quinn. It’s late. I’ll be in my bunk. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-joker-for-third-batman-movie/541982/25 "2010-06-05T10:50:57Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Problem is, Brittany Murphy also just passed away. I laughed. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-joker-for-third-batman-movie/541982/26 "2010-06-05T11:14:31Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > I really wish that Ledger had survived. Yes, because death sucks in general but also because it would have been awesome for the third film. Come on, guys, you just know they would have done a _Dark Knight_ version of Harley Quinn. It would have been so awesome. While Harley would be awesome to see, I don’t think putting the same villain in back-to-back movies would have been a good idea anyways. Don’t you find those sequels where they do that to be annoying? ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-joker-for-third-batman-movie/541982/27 "2010-06-05T11:24:31Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > While Harley would be awesome to see, I don’t think putting the same villain in back-to-back movies would have been a good idea anyways. Don’t you find those sequels where they do that to be annoying? Normally you’d be right. But they could have made all three of the films about Heath Ledger’s Joker and I would have eaten it up. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-joker-for-third-batman-movie/541982/28 "2010-06-05T11:25:52Z")
I still say the best way to handle Batman 3 is to make have the city hire Bane to hunt down the now fugitive Batman while The Dark Knight is off investigating a surge in gang violence thanks to guns from a “fishy” gangster. Bane’s intelligent, he’s big, he’s scary. It would be a good match. And it leaves the Penguin where he belongs, as a sideshow. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-joker-for-third-batman-movie/541982/29 "2010-06-05T12:51:01Z")
Kristen Bell is allegedly interested in playing Harley. I myself would love to see Alyson Hannigan in the role. Just as Batman Begins foreshadowed The Joker as the next villian, TDK foreshadowed Catwoman. That’s who it’s gotta be. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-joker-for-third-batman-movie/541982/30 "2010-06-05T13:12:25Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > Just as Batman Begins foreshadowed The Joker as the next villian, TDK foreshadowed Catwoman. That’s who it’s gotta be. No. Please, God. No. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-joker-for-third-batman-movie/541982/31 "2010-06-05T14:15:02Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > Just as Batman Begins foreshadowed The Joker as the next villian, TDK foreshadowed Catwoman. That’s who it’s gotta be. OK, I missed it. How did Dark Knight foreshadow that it would be Catwoman. Especially since the director has not committed to any villain yet(officially, that is, his brother is already writing the movie). ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-joker-for-third-batman-movie/541982/32 "2010-06-05T14:57:42Z")
> [@Johnny\_Q](#): > > They’ll probably end up going with someone like Catwoman or the Riddler. Fair enough, but I’d like to see them take one of the goofier members of Batman’s rogues gallery and make them genuinely scary. > > Imagine Arnold Vosloo as King Tut. Try the veal, I’ll be here all week. Patrick Stewart IS Egghead. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-joker-for-third-batman-movie/541982/33 "2010-06-05T15:50:38Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > Kristen Bell is allegedly interested in playing Harley. I myself would love to see Alyson Hannigan in the role. Wow. That’s some serious nerd fan-service if either of them gets the role. Of course, they both kick ass as actors too, so it could definitely work. > [@FriarTed](#): > > Just as Batman Begins foreshadowed The Joker as the next villian, TDK foreshadowed Catwoman. That’s who it’s gotta be. In-joke does not equal foreshadowing. ---
**Author:** ![Lightsaber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Lightsaber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightsaber)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-joker-for-third-batman-movie/541982/34 "2010-06-05T16:39:06Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > OK, I missed it. How did Dark Knight foreshadow that it would be Catwoman. Especially since the director has not committed to any villain yet(officially, that is, his brother is already writing the movie). Bruce Wayne: How will it [his new suit] hold up against dogs? Lucius Fox: We talking Rottweilers or Chihuahuas? Should do fine against cats. Foreshadowing or just a sly reference to Catwoman? It could work either way. ---
**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-joker-for-third-batman-movie/541982/35 "2010-06-05T16:45:42Z")
Forgive my inexact quote from memory, but I think Jack Nicholson said of the Joker that the costume did all the acting. That being the case, I say just replace the late Mr. Ledger with another actor and go on with it. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-joker-for-third-batman-movie/541982/36 "2010-06-05T18:02:00Z")
> [@zamboniracer](#): > > Forgive my inexact quote from memory, but I think Jack Nicholson said of the Joker that the costume did all the acting. That being the case, I say just replace the late Mr. Ledger with another actor and go on with it. Despite what Nicholson said, that is not the case. ---
**Author:** ![Swords\_to\_Plowshares](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b38774/32.png) [@Swords\_to\_Plowshares](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swords_to_Plowshares)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-joker-for-third-batman-movie/541982/37 "2010-06-05T21:36:24Z")
I want Michael C. Hall as the Riddler. That is all. ---
**Author:** ![Roland\_Orzabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@Roland\_Orzabal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roland_Orzabal)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-joker-for-third-batman-movie/541982/38 "2010-06-05T22:23:34Z")
Two words: Jason. Voorhees. Scoff away. Deep down, you know you’d watch it. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-joker-for-third-batman-movie/541982/39 "2010-06-05T23:09:04Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Let’s go to my earlier suggestion of Owen Wilson as the creepily pedophilic Mad Hatter. So YOU’RE the one who put that brilliant idea in my head. ---
**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-joker-for-third-batman-movie/541982/40 "2010-06-06T00:03:47Z")
> [@Swords\_to\_Plowshares](#): > > I want Michael C. Hall as the Riddler. That is all. That would actually be really quite creepy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-joker-for-third-batman-movie/541982.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-joker-for-third-batman-movie/541982.md?page=3)