# "No Kings" rallies, Saturday June 14th 2025 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 6, 2025, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-kings-rallies-saturday-june-14th-2025/1019268 "2025-06-06T15:40:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-kings-rallies-saturday-june-14th-2025/1019268/201 "2025-06-16T22:16:46Z")
> [@Ulfreida](#): > > It might have been the biggest, certainly most widespread protest that has ever happened here. And all the NYT could manage was a couple paragraphs below the fold. Yes, the _New York Times_ is working VERY hard to avoid annoying Mr. All-Powerful. As for the numbers, I follow Alt National Parks, but I suspect they were not as rigorous in their methods as was this account: > [@](#): > > …Based on crowd-sourced records of No Kings Day event turnout, and extrapolating for the cities where we don’t have data yet, it looks like roughly 4-6 million people protested Trump across the U.S. yesterday. That’s nearly 2% of the U.S. pop! Mobilized anti-Trump resistance is exceeding 2017 levels … > … We generated our estimates by crowdsourcing and painstakingly checking data integrity for thousands of protest events held across the U.S. yesterday. We used official organizer tallies, news reports, self-reports from rally attendees, and AI analysis of protest pictures and video… The short thread goes into some detail on their math. It also puts the lie to all those lazy TV pundits who are always claiming '_there were a lot more protests during Trump’s first term than there have been during the second.’_ > **[G Elliott Morris (@gelliottmorris.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/gelliottmorris.com/post/3lrnddm2rjz2k)** > > We do not intend this to be the final word. Rather, in the hybrid journalist-academic spirit of Strength In Numbers, we endeavor to help other people with their work. We have published our data publicly for researchers to use and build on. Data... As for Donald’s attempt at self-glorification: many have noticed the lack of enthusiasm by the military personnel for providing Donald with a Kim Jong-Un-style display, including conservative Bill Kristol: > [@](#): > > … Trump’s military parade Saturday was a flop. And not just in failing to draw many viewers to Washington. But because, as both the appearance of the parade and reports from within the military suggest, neither the soldiers forced to trudge down Constitution Avenue nor their senior officers forced to organize the event seemed to have any enthusiasm for Trump’s spectacle. > > More broadly, it seems that there is resistance in the military for Trump’s project of politicizing it. People who are in much closer touch with active duty service members than I told me how many of their friends privately expressed distaste for the spectacle and what it signified. … > **[Ten Years of Trump–With a Bit of Light Ahead](https://www.thebulwark.com/p/ten-years-of-trump-with-a-bit-of-light-ahead-no-kings-resistance-military-iran-israel)** > > It’s been a dark decade since he descended down that escalator. But there are signs of resistance and clear opportunities for more. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-kings-rallies-saturday-june-14th-2025/1019268/202 "2025-06-16T23:42:00Z")
Yes, thanks. I heard statements to that effect from a couple of different sources online today. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-kings-rallies-saturday-june-14th-2025/1019268/203 "2025-06-17T00:26:41Z")
> [@abcdefghij](#): > > Even so, if I found myself in formation, I think I’d have to work pretty hard not to walk in step with those around me Honestly, I’d rather have a military that shambles than one that goosesteps. _The Dead Poet Society_ on conformity. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/nJ_htuCMCqM/maxresdefault.jpg "Dead Poets Society - Conformity Scene (1989) HD w/ Subtitles") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ_htuCMCqM) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-kings-rallies-saturday-june-14th-2025/1019268/204 "2025-06-17T00:47:53Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Honestly, I’d rather have a military that shambles than one that goosesteps. 🙄 It’s not like those are the only two options. ---
**Author:** ![abcdefghij](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/43a26b/32.png) [@abcdefghij](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/abcdefghij)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-kings-rallies-saturday-june-14th-2025/1019268/205 "2025-06-17T02:37:43Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Honestly, I’d rather have a military that shambles than one that goosesteps. Marching is not goose stepping ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-kings-rallies-saturday-june-14th-2025/1019268/206 "2025-06-17T03:03:51Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > It’s not like those are the only two options. > [@abcdefghij](#): > > Marching is not goose stepping True, but you’d rather they looked good for King Donald, the first of his name’s birthday parade? Not me. Besides, it’s not like he has any use for them other than props. They were sleeping on the floor and eating MREs while his ICE-thugs were put up in hotels and harassing the cleaning staff. ---
**Author:** ![abcdefghij](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/43a26b/32.png) [@abcdefghij](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/abcdefghij)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-kings-rallies-saturday-june-14th-2025/1019268/207 "2025-06-17T03:08:08Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > True, but you’d rather they looked good for King Donald, the first of his name’s birthday parade? Who said that!? @ThelmaLou and I were just observing that this was unusual and probably intentional. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-kings-rallies-saturday-june-14th-2025/1019268/208 "2025-06-17T03:23:57Z")
**Moderating:** The ongoing discussion about Trump’s Flag Day Parade is becoming a hijack, since this is the “No Kings” rally thread. > [@Was the attendance at the June 14 USA Parade lower than hoped for?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/was-the-attendance-at-the-june-14-usa-parade-lower-than-hoped-for/1019663): > > I wasn’t sure how to phrase this question. Many liberal news sites and I think quite a few mainstream middle-ground ones are suggesting or stating that the parade was a flub. Was it? I don’t know what was expected, but I assume they were hoping for huge crowds. All I ever see are some wide shots that might have been from before the parade fully started. What is the Straight Dope on the attendance at the parade? Again, I don’t have a number in mind; I really just want to know if it is fake new… Is the most direct match, though it’s in FQ, alternately > [@Military birthday parades](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/military-birthday-parades/1017905/53): > > So how many of them ended up attending? Would be another appropriate thread in P&E, or of course, you can spin off your own in the forum you think most appropriate for this argument. _This is just a guidance, not a warning. Nothing on your permanent record._ ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-kings-rallies-saturday-june-14th-2025/1019268/209 "2025-06-17T03:27:26Z")
Are you talking to me? I don’t care much either way. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-kings-rallies-saturday-june-14th-2025/1019268/210 "2025-06-17T03:30:09Z")
I apologize, I was pointing out that your thread (which I linked too) was one of the options for the current sidetrack in _this_ thread. I didn’t mean to target you for anything specifically. ---
**Author:** ![Win\_Place\_Show](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/win_place_show/32/13469_2.png) [@Win\_Place\_Show](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Win_Place_Show)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-kings-rallies-saturday-june-14th-2025/1019268/211 "2025-06-17T18:57:26Z")
> [@Unix\_Geek](#): > > Back from the protest in McKinney Texas. Over 3000 folks along University and US-75 intersection. It was glorious. Ha, small world. I was at the one a few miles west of you (off 423, between Main and Stonebrook) and heard estimates of right around that same number for us. I was pleasantly surprised at the number of honk-honk-honk-honnnnnnnks with people waving and pumping their fists out their car windows. “Glorious” is a great word for it. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-kings-rallies-saturday-june-14th-2025/1019268/212 "2025-06-17T23:24:18Z")
Hi all, Please know that this Canadian is cheering you all on, for your defence of democracy! Well done! Best wishes all, Piper. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-kings-rallies-saturday-june-14th-2025/1019268/213 "2025-06-17T23:58:32Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Best wishes all, Thank you from the 49th Parallel, **Northern Piper**! ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-kings-rallies-saturday-june-14th-2025/1019268/214 "2025-06-18T03:59:05Z")
Thanks, Piper. Hope it works. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-kings-rallies-saturday-june-14th-2025/1019268.md?page=10)