# No live debate thread?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-live-debate-thread/767016>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 27, 2016, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-live-debate-thread/767016 "2016-09-27T01:58:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-live-debate-thread/767016/1 "2016-09-27T01:58:48Z")

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Looks like Trump is winning. He looks thoughtful when Clinton speaks and she looks disdainful. On show over substance he is way ahead.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-live-debate-thread/767016/2 "2016-09-27T02:02:37Z")

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The running thread is right here. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=805690&page=4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=805690&page=4)

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-live-debate-thread/767016/3 "2016-09-27T02:17:36Z")

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SERIOUSLY?  
You think he is WINNING?

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**Author:** ![stosh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@stosh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stosh)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-live-debate-thread/767016/4 "2016-09-27T11:36:17Z")

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The Hillary people say she won and the Trump people say he won and the media say they won. One thing is for sure. . . we lose.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-live-debate-thread/767016/5 "2016-09-27T12:37:05Z")

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> [@stosh](#):
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> The Hillary people say she won and the Trump people say he won and the media say they won. One thing is for sure. . . we lose.

Googling a random set of Trump supporters, Giuliani says Trump should skip the next debates, Christie says he “thinks Trump can improve”, Sessions thinks “debating is hard”, Kruthammer thinks it “was a tie, therefore Trump won”. There’s a lot of special pleading, and of course some of the more shameless supporters still are calling it a Trump victory (an “Enormous, historic victory” according to Newt), but I don’t think there’s really a case of both sides declaring victory.

I think that’s generally the case when one candidate clearly lost. IIRC, Obama supporters were willing to concede Romney won the first debate of 2012.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-live-debate-thread/767016/6 "2016-09-28T00:02:41Z")

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> [@stosh](#):
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> The Hillary people say she won and the Trump people say he won and the media say they won. One thing is for sure. . . we lose.

This is anecdotal, but even the Trump supporters I know(I know a few) think he did quite poorly.

She prepared, he did not. I think his camp admits he did little prep. It was not wise.