# No longer fighting Ignorance, now encouraging it.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-longer-fighting-ignorance-now-encouraging-it/751557>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [April 8, 2016, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-longer-fighting-ignorance-now-encouraging-it/751557 "2016-04-08T16:37:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-longer-fighting-ignorance-now-encouraging-it/751557/21 "2016-04-08T17:51:23Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Yes, since ITD and other posters made a big deal of it, I am responding. It’s a lame warning.

I’m glad you cleared that up. I thought everybody was talking about T. J. Hooker.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-longer-fighting-ignorance-now-encouraging-it/751557/22 "2016-04-08T17:56:56Z")

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**DrDeth** , I do not believe that you sincerely thought that anyone who was using William Shatner’s name was truly confused and that you were upholding the ideals of fighting ignorance.

You have been asked to not correct posters or to play dumb when individuals refer to an actor or new character by a previous character’s name. A mod note was insufficient last time to impress upon you how irritating that behavior is, so I’m trying a warning this time.

I am not inclined to let this thread remain open very long if it looks like it’s going off the rails. If you have a specific question about your warning, I’ll do my best to answer it, but I stand by the warning and won’t really engage in too much back-and-forth argument that doesn’t seem productive.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-longer-fighting-ignorance-now-encouraging-it/751557/23 "2016-04-08T18:02:11Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> **DrDeth** , I do not believe that you sincerely thought that anyone who was using William Shatner’s name was truly confused and that you were upholding the ideals of fighting ignorance.
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> You have been asked to not correct posters or to play dumb when individuals refer to an actor or new character by a previous character’s name. A mod note was insufficient last time to impress upon you how irritating that behavior is, so I’m trying a warning this time.
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> I am not inclined to let this thread remain open very long if it looks like it’s going off the rails. If you have a specific question about your warning, I’ll do my best to answer it, but I stand by the warning and won’t really engage in too much back-and-forth argument that doesn’t seem productive.

Of course I didnt think he was truly confused.

Why is the truth so “annoying”?

And of course you “stand by the warning” since you got applauded for it. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Molotok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Molotok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Molotok)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-longer-fighting-ignorance-now-encouraging-it/751557/24 "2016-04-08T18:05:06Z")

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I bet **IvoryTowerDenizen** isn’t even her real name! _throws hands in air_

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-longer-fighting-ignorance-now-encouraging-it/751557/25 "2016-04-08T18:05:48Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> And of course you “stand by the warning” since you got applauded for it. :rolleyes:

“Encore! Encore!!”

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-longer-fighting-ignorance-now-encouraging-it/751557/26 "2016-04-08T18:06:51Z")

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> [@Molotok](#):
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> I bet **IvoryTowerDenizen** isn’t even her real name! _throws hands in air_

😃

I owe you a cocktail, **Molotok**!

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**Author:** ![Mars\_Horizon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mars_horizon/32/2804_2.png) [@Mars\_Horizon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mars_Horizon)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-longer-fighting-ignorance-now-encouraging-it/751557/27 "2016-04-08T18:11:46Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Of course I didnt think he was truly confused.
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> Why is the truth so “annoying”?

I learned the hard way some years ago that pedantism is deeply annoying. No one cares that you are technically correct if your point is made in such a way.

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**Author:** ![Molotok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Molotok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Molotok)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-longer-fighting-ignorance-now-encouraging-it/751557/28 "2016-04-08T18:12:07Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> 😃
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> I owe you a cocktail, **Molotok**!

Sourced from some pristine body of water and stirred with a paddle, s’il vous plait.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-longer-fighting-ignorance-now-encouraging-it/751557/29 "2016-04-08T18:14:31Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Of course I didnt think he was truly confused.

Then you were trolling.

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> Why is the truth so “annoying”?

If you can’t figure out why doing this is so annoying, we probably can’t help you.

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> And of course you “stand by the warning” since you got applauded for it. :rolleyes:

She got applauded for it because it was correct, and your objection is foolish.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-longer-fighting-ignorance-now-encouraging-it/751557/30 "2016-04-08T18:17:09Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> 😃
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> I owe you a cocktail, **Molotok**!

> [@Molotok](#):
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> Sourced from some pristine body of water and stirred with a paddle, s’il vous plait.

Do you wish it set on fire? 😉

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-longer-fighting-ignorance-now-encouraging-it/751557/31 "2016-04-08T18:20:17Z")

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> [@Mars\_Horizon](#):
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> I learned the hard way some years ago that pedantism is deeply annoying. No one cares that you are technically correct if your point is made in such a way.

If being a pedant was worth a warning here, many posters would have hundreds of such warnings. Being Pedantic is the SDMB way. 😛

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-longer-fighting-ignorance-now-encouraging-it/751557/32 "2016-04-08T18:22:29Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Then you were trolling.
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> If you can’t figure out why doing this is so annoying, we probably can’t help you.
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> She got applauded for it because it was correct, and your objection is foolish.

Just because I didnt think _the OP_ was confused it doesn’t mean no one else could be confused. We have had posters here genuinely confused by what others thought were "obvious’ jokes or “whooshes”.

What does it hurt to clarify?

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**Author:** ![Molotok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Molotok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Molotok)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-longer-fighting-ignorance-now-encouraging-it/751557/33 "2016-04-08T18:22:51Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Do you wish it set on fire? 😉

Gasoline served with a side of rag? That would be delightful!

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-longer-fighting-ignorance-now-encouraging-it/751557/34 "2016-04-08T18:25:10Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> If being a pedant was worth a warning here, many posters would have hundreds of such warnings. Being Pedantic is the SDMB way. 😛

You were not warned for simply being pedantic.

You were warned because you were being pedantic in a way that was deliberately annoying, insincere, and that you were repeating a behavior that you were previously told to stop doing.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-longer-fighting-ignorance-now-encouraging-it/751557/35 "2016-04-08T18:26:36Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Just because I didnt think _the OP_ was confused it doesn’t mean no one else could be confused. We have had posters here genuinely confused by what others thought were "obvious’ jokes or “whooshes”.
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> What does it hurt to clarify?

Name one Doper who is unaware of Star Trek. That’s as inconceivable as not recognizing a dead parrot.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-longer-fighting-ignorance-now-encouraging-it/751557/36 "2016-04-08T18:28:40Z")

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This may be a part of the OP’s [long standing crusade](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=529372) [against being](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9081044&postcount=93) [wooshed](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=738099)? It seems to be the same sort of humor being objected to here as in many previous threads.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-longer-fighting-ignorance-now-encouraging-it/751557/37 "2016-04-08T18:29:09Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Just because I didnt think _the OP_ was confused it doesn’t mean no one else could be confused. We have had posters here genuinely confused by what others thought were "obvious’ jokes or “whooshes”.
> 
> What does it hurt to clarify?

You were not warned for simply clarifying.

You were warned because you were clarifying in a way that was deliberately annoying, insincere, and that you were repeating a behavior that you were previously told to stop doing.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-longer-fighting-ignorance-now-encouraging-it/751557/38 "2016-04-08T18:33:08Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> You were not warned for simply clarifying.
> 
> You were warned because you were clarifying in a way that was deliberately annoying, insincere, and that you were repeating a behavior that you were previously told to stop doing.

Not the same "\*"DrDeth drop correcting people for using a past character’s name to refer to a role played by the same actor. "  
\*

And I wasnt being deliberately annoying. Pedantic, perhaps, a failed attempt at humor, perhaps, but no attempt at being annoying. But you knew that. You know full well why this “warning” was given.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-longer-fighting-ignorance-now-encouraging-it/751557/39 "2016-04-08T18:33:26Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Name one Doper who is unaware of Star Trek. That’s as inconceivable as not recognizing a dead parrot.

DEAD?!!! I thought he was just resting.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-longer-fighting-ignorance-now-encouraging-it/751557/40 "2016-04-08T18:40:43Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Not the same "\*"DrDeth drop correcting people for using a past character’s name to refer to a role played by the same actor. "  
> \*
> 
> And I wasnt being deliberately annoying. Pedantic, perhaps, a failed attempt at humor, perhaps, but no attempt at being annoying. But you knew that. You know full well why this “warning” was given.

I have no idea what secret reason you think I have for giving the warning.

You know full well that people find this behavior annoying. I also know you are more than capable of extrapolating from one similar (if not exact) situation to another. However, apparently you enjoy yanking people’s chains and then playing wide-eyed innocent when you think you’ve found some bit of minutia to justify your behavior or play dumb as if you don’t understand what the issue is. I don’t enjoy tis game and would like it to stop.

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