# No Man's Sky - First star to the right, and straight on till morning
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-mans-sky-first-star-to-the-right-and-straight-on-till-morning/759701
**Category:** The Game Room
**Tags:** video-games-e-games
**Created:** [July 12, 2016, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-mans-sky-first-star-to-the-right-and-straight-on-till-morning/759701 "2016-07-12T01:16:17Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 28
### Author:  [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2016, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-mans-sky-first-star-to-the-right-and-straight-on-till-morning/759701/541 "2016-10-07T22:33:10Z")
> [@TimeWinder](#):
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> Humor us and give the non-clickbait version. What happens at 27 minutes in?
Sorry.
So after all the work he does to get to the center he pretty practically just started a new game and was forced to sit through the initialization sequence all over again. This time, however, the planet he started on had a hostile drone. So the entire time he’s starting, and can not skip, he’s being attacked and slowly losing health. He finally gets control seconds before he’s killed.
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### Author:  [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-mans-sky-first-star-to-the-right-and-straight-on-till-morning/759701/542 "2016-10-08T07:51:01Z")
I do take issue with his complaints about how much of a grind it was to get to the centre. This is a game where the journey _is_ the game, and taking a relaxed attitude to flying around exploring is sort of the point. Focusing purely on getting to the end like he did is going to be a grind, yes, but that’s not really how it’s supposed to be played.
That ending, though, real kick in the teeth. I don’t blame him for uninstalling.
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### Author:  [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2016, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-mans-sky-first-star-to-the-right-and-straight-on-till-morning/759701/543 "2016-10-08T13:10:30Z")
Unskippable cutscenes are _always_ bad. And cutscenes while something is actually happening in the game world are also always bad. Combining the two is simply unforgivable.
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### Author:  [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2016, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-mans-sky-first-star-to-the-right-and-straight-on-till-morning/759701/544 "2016-10-14T05:36:00Z")
Well seeing as it’s over 2 months now and no new content at all then I’m willing to join SenorBeef in saying that it was deliberate lying to hype up sales, on things they knew they couldn’t deliver.
I only just learned of the existence of this gem of a quote:
"The team programmed some of the physics for aesthetic reasons. For instance, Duncan insisted on permitting moons to orbit closer to their planets than Newtonian physics would allow. When he desired the possibility of green skies, the team had to redesign the periodic table to create atmospheric particles that would diffract light at just the right wavelength.
> **[Inside the Artificial Universe That Creates Itself](https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/02/artificial-universe-no-mans-sky/463308/)**
>
> A team of programmers has built a self-generating cosmos, and even they don’t know what’s hiding in its vast reaches.
"
Thats clearly utter bullshit, they are implying that they are simulating atmospheric scattering and refraction to determine the color of a planets sky, and they were somehow actually deriving the results from the elements that make up its atmosphere. Yeah nope, theres nothing like that in the game and thats not a remotely feasible way to do things for anyone that knows anything about programming.
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### Author:  [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2016, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-mans-sky-first-star-to-the-right-and-straight-on-till-morning/759701/545 "2016-10-16T18:24:51Z")
> [@coremelt](#):
>
> Well seeing as it’s over 2 months now and no new content at all then I’m willing to join SenorBeef in saying that it was deliberate lying to hype up sales, on things they knew they couldn’t deliver.
I’m still on the side of them having cut stuff as they were not going to get it out on time otherwise, either due to pressure from Sony or simply running out of money.
In game development two months is nothing and even then the first month was bug fixing.
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2016, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-mans-sky-first-star-to-the-right-and-straight-on-till-morning/759701/546 "2016-10-16T18:36:20Z")
> [@coremelt](#):
>
> I only just learned of the existence of this gem of a quote:
> "The team programmed some of the physics for aesthetic reasons. For instance, Duncan insisted on permitting moons to orbit closer to their planets than Newtonian physics would allow. When he desired the possibility of green skies, the team had to redesign the periodic table to create atmospheric particles that would diffract light at just the right wavelength.
> [Inside the Artificial Universe That Creates Itself - The Atlantic](http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/02/artificial-universe-no-mans-sky/463308/)
> "
>
> Thats clearly utter bullshit, they are implying that they are simulating atmospheric scattering and refraction to determine the color of a planets sky, and they were somehow actually deriving the results from the elements that make up its atmosphere. Yeah nope, theres nothing like that in the game and thats not a remotely feasible way to do things for anyone that knows anything about programming.
Wataminit! Does that mean that _all_ those other video games that had different coloured skies did it by redesigning the periodic tables??
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### Author:  [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2016, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-mans-sky-first-star-to-the-right-and-straight-on-till-morning/759701/547 "2016-10-16T19:20:16Z")
No, you only need to do that to get green skies: All other colors are possible with our periodic table. And it’s a sign of how visionary the designers of this game were, that they were the first ones ever to depict a green sky.
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### Author:  [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2016, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-mans-sky-first-star-to-the-right-and-straight-on-till-morning/759701/548 "2016-10-16T19:29:07Z")
Green sky in morning, Developer’s warning…
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### Author:  [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2016, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-mans-sky-first-star-to-the-right-and-straight-on-till-morning/759701/549 "2016-10-28T18:12:53Z")
Sean Murray [speaks for the first time in months](http://i.imgur.com/HRMcYtY.png)!
Well, not really. Apparently a disgruntled employee or something (they’re releasing conflicting statements) got ahold of the account briefly. Having them announce that the tweet was unauthorized was actually the first word we’ve heard from them in a long time.
It’s too bad. The image of Sean Murray needing a soul-cleansing confession might be better than the one of him sipping drinks in Tahiti laughing it up. Maybe.
Incidentally, Star Citizen has released a video showing off the effect of [sun placement](http://i.imgur.com/Cs39K3i.gifv) in a solar system. Because in their game, the sun is an actual object that occupies space and casts light. It even affects the direction of the reflected light off the little moon in the background. And it appears to show atmospheric effects changing the color of the light cast on the ground when near the horizon. It’s not just a skybox with a sun. It’s a real solar system.
In that little 5 second demo, they’re showing off more universe-building than the entirety of NMS manages.
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### Author:  [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2016, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-mans-sky-first-star-to-the-right-and-straight-on-till-morning/759701/550 "2016-11-01T00:02:03Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#):
>
> Sean Murray [speaks for the first time in months](http://i.imgur.com/HRMcYtY.png)!
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> Well, not really. Apparently a disgruntled employee or something (they’re releasing conflicting statements) got ahold of the account briefly. Having them announce that the tweet was unauthorized was actually the first word we’ve heard from them in a long time.
>
> It’s too bad. The image of Sean Murray needing a soul-cleansing confession might be better than the one of him sipping drinks in Tahiti laughing it up. Maybe.
>
> Incidentally, Star Citizen has released a video showing off the effect of [sun placement](http://i.imgur.com/Cs39K3i.gifv) in a solar system. Because in their game, the sun is an actual object that occupies space and casts light. It even affects the direction of the reflected light off the little moon in the background. And it appears to show atmospheric effects changing the color of the light cast on the ground when near the horizon. It’s not just a skybox with a sun. It’s a real solar system.
>
> In that little 5 second demo, they’re showing off more universe-building than the entirety of NMS manages.
NMS is out, was written by a team at least a twentieth of the size of Star Citizen and runs on a stock PS4.
But keep on waiting and I guess keep on wth your bizarre obsession with a game that you haven’t even played.
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### Author:  [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2016, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-mans-sky-first-star-to-the-right-and-straight-on-till-morning/759701/551 "2016-11-01T00:15:29Z")
If that’s a demonstration of ‘sun placement in the solar system’ then Star Citizen must use a Ptolemaic model of the solar system.
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2016, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-mans-sky-first-star-to-the-right-and-straight-on-till-morning/759701/552 "2016-11-01T10:37:11Z")
> [@amanset](#):
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> NMS is out, was written by a team at least a twentieth of the size of Star Citizen and runs on a stock PS4.
>
> But keep on waiting and I guess keep on wth your bizarre obsession with a game that you haven’t even played.
All these people hating on NMS for not meeting expectations, whether real or perceived, does not bode at all well for fans of Star Citizen.
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2016, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-mans-sky-first-star-to-the-right-and-straight-on-till-morning/759701/553 "2016-11-01T10:45:04Z")
Which, of course, has very real and much higher expectations.
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### Author:  [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2016, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-mans-sky-first-star-to-the-right-and-straight-on-till-morning/759701/554 "2016-11-01T15:05:31Z")
To be honest that is very funny. Being angry about the hype of NMS, but jumping well down the hype train for Star Citizen.
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2016, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-mans-sky-first-star-to-the-right-and-straight-on-till-morning/759701/555 "2016-11-01T15:43:00Z")
Makes a certain amount of sense, all things considered. It’s a reminder of where Star Citizen is likely headed.
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2016, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-mans-sky-first-star-to-the-right-and-straight-on-till-morning/759701/556 "2016-11-01T15:51:26Z")
Except the backlash against Star Citizen will be so much greater.
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2016, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-mans-sky-first-star-to-the-right-and-straight-on-till-morning/759701/557 "2016-11-01T16:00:22Z")
[Interesting overview of NMS phenomenon](http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2016/10/29/no-mans-sky-was-all-of-our-mistake/#357ba8dd51a9) from Forbes.
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### Author:  [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2016, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-mans-sky-first-star-to-the-right-and-straight-on-till-morning/759701/558 "2016-11-01T16:02:37Z")
At least NMS got released. I have a bit of buyer’s remorse over the $60 I paid for it, but at least I have a game I can putz around in for a couple hours when nothing sounds interesting.
Star Citizen is a dream at this point. Nothing about their releases in the last year give me any indication that there will be a release date.
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### Author:  [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2016, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-mans-sky-first-star-to-the-right-and-straight-on-till-morning/759701/559 "2016-11-01T20:01:12Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#):
>
> To be honest that is very funny. Being angry about the hype of NMS, but jumping well down the hype train for Star Citizen.
I assume we’re talking about me. At least Skywatcher is. I haven’t jumped on the Star Citizen hype train at all. In fact, my main statement there in that thread is telling people not to get so invested in unreleased games because it just leads to impatience, annoyance, and disappointment. Just let it come out and then evaluate it then, instead of massively emotionally investing in it way ahead of time. There’s no contradiction there at all. I’ve only said that it’s silly to write it off as vaporware because it’s been in development for years. But for a game as ambitious as that you’d expect it to be.
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2016, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-mans-sky-first-star-to-the-right-and-straight-on-till-morning/759701/560 "2016-11-01T20:30:49Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#):
>
> Incidentally, Star Citizen has released a video showing off the effect of [sun placement](http://i.imgur.com/Cs39K3i.gifv) in a solar system. Because in their game, the sun is an actual object that occupies space and casts light. It even affects the direction of the reflected light off the little moon in the background. And it appears to show atmospheric effects changing the color of the light cast on the ground when near the horizon. It’s not just a skybox with a sun. It’s a real solar system.
>
> In that little 5 second demo, they’re showing off more universe-building than the entirety of NMS manages.
> [@lisiate](#):
>
> If that’s a demonstration of ‘sun placement in the solar system’ then Star Citizen must use a Ptolemaic model of the solar system.
Posting without comment.
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