# 'No' Means November Rants **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 31, 2013, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729 "2013-10-31T07:36:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/181 "2013-11-06T13:06:42Z")
> [@purplehorseshoe](#): > > You have my sympathy. What I remember most about getting all my wisdom teeth yanked wasn’t so much the post-op pain, or drooling, or discovering how wonderfully nauseated pain meds make me. It was the OMG WANT FOOD constant protein cravings. I dreamed about steaks. Almost fifteen years later :eek: and I still remember that awful, gnawing, unrelenting hunger. I managed to choke down some macaroni and cheese last night, and I was forced to eat so slow that I actually felt full when I was done. But I am most definitely going out for steak as soon as I can chew again. Today is the post-op injection site and jaw-fuckery soreness. I just have to keep reminding myself that it’s better than what happened when my wisdom teeth came out. ---
**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/182 "2013-11-06T13:28:20Z")
Seriously, fuck eczema. I’m having a major flare up, which has got infected. It’s painful, itchy as hell, is stopping me from sleeping, and looks revolting. Hopefully the antibiotics I got yesterday should clear it up soon, but until then, I just don’t feel like doing anything- I’m tired all the time, wearing proper clothes hurts, and I look like I should be walking round with a little bell shouting ‘unclean’. Oh, plus random people always feel the bizarre urge to tell you what they used for their kid’s mild version, so you get ‘Oh, have you tried using _moisturiser_?’ No, gosh, the series of specialists I’ve been seeing over the last 20 years never once suggested that! :rolleyes: or ‘You should really try [expensive shit moisturiser that comes in a tiny pot that would barely last one application and has exactly the same ingredients as the cheap stuff bar the perfume]!’ or ‘You’re probably allergic to dairy/yeast/sugar; if you really _want_ it to get better, you should cut that out’, which of course explains why this is the first flare up in two years, despite no diet changes. Oh, and while I’m at it, no, you didn’t cure your child’s eczema, they grew out of it. That’s the only real cure, and it’s not going to happen to me now. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Vorlon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@The\_Vorlon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Vorlon)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/183 "2013-11-06T13:54:14Z")
> [@Lacunae\_Matata](#): > > “No” means “oh no, my niece did not just borrow my truck mostly without asking, to drive forty miles to her in-laws’ to get her shit, and then message me that I could give her some gas money tomorrow!” Seriously? First, if she’d asked, I certainly would have loaned the truck, but she’s a big girl: if they don’t have $20 for gas, how the hell do they have money for the apartment? Second, we have given the kids rent-free housing for the past six weeks, advanced them a thousand dollars on work that hasn’t been done, fed them out of our own shallow pockets, etc. We gave her my old van. I’ve probably spent $500 on pantry and household stuff for them. They lived with us for a year during the 2011-12 school year, also rent-free. And now they expect me to front gas money? While DaNephew’s perfectly good car sits right here? > > It’s not the money, it’s the expectation … > > Also, my mother is planning to move to my neighborhood soonish. And by “my neighborhood,” I strongly suspect that she means to try to guilt me into surveying off an acre of my new place, because she cannot afford land in this county. I think I have to let Tony play the bad guy here, and come up with some plausible reason to not let the crazy woman move in to our back yard… I could handle it if Ma were old and needed help, but she’s only 63, and the women in my family tend to live for-freaking-ever. I just can’t face three decades of my mother. How about this—“Gee, ma, we would love too, but when the land got surveyed, this was the only spot that passed the perc test, and it JUST did, we really wanted the house elsewhere, but no-go…” ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/184 "2013-11-06T14:49:48Z")
Goddamn it, no more dying, y’all. Too many good posters gone this year. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/185 "2013-11-06T15:55:14Z")
> [@Draelin](#): > > I managed to choke down some macaroni and cheese last night, and I was forced to eat so slow that I actually felt full when I was done. But I am most definitely going out for steak as soon as I can chew again. > > Today is the post-op injection site and jaw-fuckery soreness. I just have to keep reminding myself that it’s better than what happened when my wisdom teeth came out. Yesterday I had a wisdom tooth extracted and a flap procedure done on my gums. I’m so hungry. All I can think about is hamburgers and fries. But what’s on the menu today? Macaroni and cheese and rice pudding. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/186 "2013-11-06T15:56:04Z")
Shit. Who’d we lose now? ☹ ETA: apparently, **Polycarp**. Jeeeeeeez… ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/187 "2013-11-06T16:17:26Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > Yesterday I had a wisdom tooth extracted and a flap procedure done on my gums. > > I’m so hungry. All I can think about is hamburgers and fries. But what’s on the menu today? Macaroni and cheese and rice pudding. I don’t even know what a flap procedure is, and I’m not going to look it up right now because I bet it’s horrifying. All I could think about last night was steak and carrots and crusty bread. And all I could eat was mac and cheese. I understand. Today I might try oatmeal. Was your wisdom tooth on the top or the bottom? Because I remember my top wisdom teeth being a walk in the park compared to the agony that was the lower extractions. But whenever there’s an extraction, you can always look forward to that magical seventh day, when the stitches are dissolved and suddenly you’re no longer thinking about being careful every time you open your mouth. I wish you a speedy seventh day. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/188 "2013-11-06T16:37:22Z")
If my copay on a medicine is $70 or so, and it improves my health, OK. I can deal with it. But if the medicine causes my IBS to flare up to the point where I can’t do much of anything, and I have to stop taking it, then we have a problem. I’m tired of getting new meds, trying them for a week, and pitching them when I can’t tolerate the side effects. I think I’m going to tell my doctors that from now on, not to even bother prescribing anything which is known to commonly cause digestive problems in a lot of patients, unless it’s an acute problem. Because I just don’t want to live with the pain, and I’ll take a shorter life span in exchange for less pain. ---
**Author:** ![eclectic\_wench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ac91a4/32.png) [@eclectic\_wench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eclectic_wench)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/189 "2013-11-06T16:40:38Z")
> [@SeaDragonTattoo](#): > > I think he meant exactly what he said, unfortunately. Illinois just today passed a new marriage equality law. I caught a tiny, short blurb on the news showing one guy arguing for the law and one guy arguing against. The guy arguing against said something about how much better children do in a home with two biological parents. Um. Okay. So we also need to outlaw: divorce, artificial insemination, step parents, adoption, foster care, and single parenting. Let’s get right on that. Idiot. I bet you’re right. Even assuming that’s what he meant, though - and _even if I agreed with him_ that gay couples shouldn’t raise kids, which I absolutely don’t - I’m left with a huge lump of WTF. I mean, right now, some gay couples are raising kids and some aren’t. If we get marriage equality, then what on earth does he think will change about that? I mean, does he think Ireland is full of gay couples going, ‘You know, I’d love to have kids, but I just don’t believe in raising kids outside marriage, so we’ll just have to hope this marriage equality comes in and then we can raise all the kids we want’? Or what?! The guy needs to come get his WTF back. It’s sticky and it smells funny. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/190 "2013-11-06T16:58:39Z")
> [@Draelin](#): > > I had a tooth pulled yesterday. In the grand scheme of tooth-removal, it’s pretty painless. There’s more irritation at the novocain injection sites than the extraction site, and taking three or four Advil every four hours or so is taking care of most of that. > > However, I’m still quite leery of chewing, even on the other side of my mouth. At least until tomorrow or so, when the soreness will have abated a bit and the big crater in my gum will be a little more healed up. I had mashed potatoes for dinner last night, and some chicken soup for lunch. > > I AM FUCKING STARVING. > [@purplehorseshoe](#): > > You have my sympathy. What I remember most about getting all my wisdom teeth yanked wasn’t so much the post-op pain, or drooling, or discovering how wonderfully nauseated pain meds make me. It was the OMG WANT FOOD constant protein cravings. I dreamed about steaks. Almost fifteen years later :eek: and I still remember that awful, gnawing, unrelenting hunger. > > I’m, uh, gonna go donate some stuff to a local food bank now. ☹ > [@Draelin](#): > > I managed to choke down some macaroni and cheese last night, and I was forced to eat so slow that I actually felt full when I was done. But I am most definitely going out for steak as soon as I can chew again. > > Today is the post-op injection site and jaw-fuckery soreness. I just have to keep reminding myself that it’s better than what happened when my wisdom teeth came out. Ya pussies! 😃 I had all four wisdom teeth and one other tooth yanked at the same time and the only pain I had was when the pillow was poking me in the side of the mouth. Moved said pillow and no pain. Never took a pain pill and ate regular food from day one. I also recently had a tooth implant done and same thing. No pain and ate regular food. Never took a pain pill then either. I did take the Amoxicillin because they told me to, but nothing beyond that. I guess I just have been lucky in the tooth surgery pain department. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/191 "2013-11-06T17:27:35Z")
> [@Filbert](#): > > Oh, and while I’m at it, no, you didn’t cure your child’s eczema, they grew out of it. That’s the only real cure, and it’s not going to happen to me now. I have so much sympathy for you. I had really bad eczema all through my childhood, and I was so grateful that I did grow out of it at puberty. Now I have occasional bouts of what the dermatologist calls atopic dermatitis, which as far as I can tell is the same thing. But I do seem to be able to keep it in check most of the time. I do have a suggestion, just in case: sunshine. Seriously, this is the only thing that works for me without any side effects\*. Seeing that it’s winter, that means a tanning salon. If there is one anywhere you can get to, just a few minutes three times a week, low intensity, could make the condition vastly better within a few days. Good luck, and again, {{{Filbert}}} \*all cautions and disclaimers about premature wrinkling of the skin and/or skin cancer hereby noted. Roddy ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/192 "2013-11-06T17:38:00Z")
One of our local FM oldies radio stations started playing Christmas music on November first. Yup. The day after Halloween. Damn their eyes. ---
**Author:** ![Avarie537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/48db29/32.png) [@Avarie537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avarie537)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/193 "2013-11-06T20:31:01Z")
Someone in my house ate the last donut and _didn’t throw away the box_! I was really looking forward to chocolatey cakey donutty deliciousness, but my hopes were dashed. ---
**Author:** ![flatlined](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb9ed0/32.png) [@flatlined](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flatlined)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/194 "2013-11-07T03:27:39Z")
> [@SeaDragonTattoo](#): > > I’m guessing it’s ointment? \*\*Sometimes it’s a little less hard to pull the lower lid down with one finger and apply it to the gap. \*\*It really doesn’t need to be much, just 1/4 inch. It doesn’t have to go across the whole eyeball, and I always instruct that the tip should never touch the eye anyway, so as long as a dab goes in without getting caught on lashes, you’re good. > > Depends on how much of a struggle your Lucky man is willing to put up. I like to use a “bib” with a towel and just drape it across the front so it’s harder for the cat to swat hands, you can scruff and hold the towel together with the same hand, and holding high up on the neck can give some control over the head **while you pull a lid down with your pinkie and squirt a dab of ointment with the thumb and forefinger**. > > Another technique, put a dab onto a clean Q-tip and then dab that onto the inside of the bottom eyelid. I’ve never really seen how this works better than just using the tube, but some seem to prefer it. > > Other than those, I got nuthin. I had to quote your whole post or it wouldn’t have made sense, but the bolded parts made me want to smack myself :smack::smack::smack: While I didn’t know about putting the salve in the lower eyelid, I do know that I’ve got 5 fingers on each hand and they all work. Why do I never remember to use all of them when I’m doing something new?!? It worked like a charm this morning. Lucky is a pretty mello guy, so all I had to do this morning was hold his head and dose him. After I gave him his good kitty treats, he promised that he would hate me forever, but he’s back on my lap now. Everyone knows that cats lie, so I wasn’t that scared. Thank you so much. I really do appreciate your advice and expertise. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/195 "2013-11-07T04:28:39Z")
> [@flatlined](#): > > \After I gave him his good kitty treats, he promised that he would hate me forever, but he’s back on my lap now. Everyone knows that cats lie, so I wasn’t that scared.\ They lie, and boy howdy, do they ever swear! ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/196 "2013-11-07T14:08:55Z")
This is the first sentence in an article in the local paper today about Billy Graham’s birthday bash: > [@](#): > > \*\*The most successful evangelist in the 2,000-year history of Christianity, \*\*Billy Graham has used the technologies of the modern age to reach more people than ever with his message of faith and love. > [http://www.citizen-times.com/article/20131107/NEWS01/311070023/Known-world-over-Billy-Graham-turns-95](http://www.citizen-times.com/article/20131107/NEWS01/311070023/Known-world-over-Billy-Graham-turns-95) Emphasis added, of course. So over the entire 2K years of Christianity, Billy Graham has herded more to the fold than anyone ever? I’ve heard of hyperbole before, but this is ridiculous! ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/197 "2013-11-07T14:44:33Z")
They’re probably using a more secular measure of success. ---
**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/198 "2013-11-07T16:09:47Z")
I’m pretty sure Mother Nature is saying to me, “Remember all those years in your 20’s and 30’s when your period was really regular, fairly easy and 32 days apart? Remember how you could set your watch by it, and it was merely a minor inconvenience? Time to pay up! You will be miserable every month from now until menopause.” I’m only 44, but damn. These last couple of months have been brutal. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/199 "2013-11-07T16:14:01Z")
> [@SpazCat](#): > > I’ve heard of hyperbole before, but this is ridiculous! Worst hyperbole ever! ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/200 "2013-11-07T16:30:16Z")
> [@SpazCat](#): > > TSo over the entire 2K years of Christianity, Billy Graham has herded more to the fold than anyone ever? I’ve heard of hyperbole before, but this is ridiculous! Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729.md?page=11)