# 'No' Means November Rants **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 31, 2013, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729 "2013-10-31T07:36:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/321 "2013-11-13T20:05:54Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Ummm, _technically_, that’s five words. I knew there would be some smarty-pants who thinks I can’t count to two. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/322 "2013-11-13T20:30:54Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Two words - razor wire and electrified fence. 🙂 I want people to go back to calling it [concertina wire](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concertina_wire). That sounds so much more cheerful than razor wire. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/323 "2013-11-13T21:14:53Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I knew there would be some smarty-pants who thinks I can’t count to two. 🙂 Well, y’know what they say… There are three kinds of people: those who can count and those who can’t. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![flatlined](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb9ed0/32.png) [@flatlined](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flatlined)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/324 "2013-11-14T01:58:20Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > …On the other hand, she worries about me, too. Especially when I declare that I’m going to turn into Grandma Mazur (Stephanie Plum’s grandmother). That sounds like a worthy goal. Grandma Mazur rocks 🙂 > [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > (My husband did a quick check on one of the obviously-not-kitchen trash bags that had come open. Any paper that should have had a name or address? That had been removed. Someone’s very into identity protection, I see!) Our Jeep club usde to do cleanups in the forest. One day, we cleaned up where someone had dumped a bunch of what appeared to be remodeling garbage. Carpet, cabinets and other assorted trash. Mixed in were unpaid utility bills, junk mail and other bills all to the same person and including the address. We took pics of before and after, we took pics of the trailors full of garbage that we were hauling out and gave the pics and the mail to a couple of forest rangers. You could tell by the looks on their faces that we had made their week. Too bad your jerk was smarter than that, but really, if your husband had found anything, what could have been done? ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/325 "2013-11-14T02:14:39Z")
> [@flatlined](#): > > Too bad your jerk was smarter than that, but really, if your husband had found anything, what could have been done? Either a steathy redelivery to their door, or letting our landlord know what was up and who was responsible. He might want to contact their landlord (assuming they’re renters) or the dumping jerks. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/326 "2013-11-14T02:46:04Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > Either a steathy redelivery to their door, or letting our landlord know what was up and who was responsible. He might want to contact their landlord (assuming they’re renters) or the dumping jerks. Or sell their addresses to some kind of marketers. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/327 "2013-11-14T02:52:26Z")
Rant umpteen jillion about hoverers in the ladies’ restroom. Yeah, I get it, Princess, your dainty widdle butt is just TOO special to TOUCH the seat, but at least have the decency to clean up after yourself! I do NOT consider it an honor to mop up YOUR urine before I can use the facilities! ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/328 "2013-11-14T03:14:01Z")
> [@flatlined](#): > > That sounds like a worthy goal. Grandma Mazur rocks 🙂 Yeah, I’m picturing Lynn with a walker, an attitude and a huge taser. ---
**Author:** ![minor7flat5](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/minor7flat5/32/258_2.png) [@minor7flat5](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minor7flat5)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/329 "2013-11-14T03:24:57Z")
> [@flatlined](#): > > Our Jeep club usde to do cleanups in the forest. One day, we cleaned up where someone had dumped a bunch of what appeared to be remodeling garbage. Carpet, cabinets and other assorted trash. Mixed in were unpaid utility bills, junk mail and other bills all to the same person and including the address. We took pics of before and after, we took pics of the trailors full of garbage that we were hauling out and gave the pics and the mail to a couple of forest rangers. You could tell by the looks on their faces that we had made their week. Did this happen to be on a Thanksgiving? ---
**Author:** ![flatlined](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb9ed0/32.png) [@flatlined](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flatlined)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/330 "2013-11-14T04:31:39Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > Either a steathy redelivery to their door, or letting our landlord know what was up and who was responsible. He might want to contact their landlord (assuming they’re renters) or the dumping jerks. While I hate to disagree with such a nice person as you, returning their gifts might be dangerous and the renter’s landlord probably won’t care about what their tenant is doing off their property. I used to work for a Domino’s that was across the alley from a budget apartment building. The renters would cut the locks off our dumpster and fill it with broken furniture and old electronics and the garbage collectors would charge us for hauling furniture and electronics off. The landlord didn’t care (he probably encouraged it because there was a fee for hauling furniture and electronics off), the cops were polite and many of them were worth calling just to look at, but honestly, filling up someone else’s dumpster isn’t a high-priority crime. > [@digs](#): > > Yeah, I’m picturing Lynn with a walker, an attitude and a huge taser. She’s already got the attitude, and she lives in Texas so of course she has a gun for her purse…she’s so almost there that I understand her daughter worrying! > [@minor7flat5](#): > > Did this happen to be on a Thanksgiving? No, but I have to ask why you are asking. The rangers we gave the documentation to said something about how they loved it when this happened (pics and documentation, we already knew they loved it when we came out and cleaned up), so it can’t be that uncommon. Do you have a story to share??? ---
**Author:** ![Cheez\_Whia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d26b3c/32.png) [@Cheez\_Whia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheez_Whia)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/331 "2013-11-14T04:36:15Z")
Search for “Alice’s Restaurant” on YouTube. You’re welcome. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/332 "2013-11-14T04:49:27Z")
> [@EmilyG](#): > > I’ve actually used a surgical mask on the bus when people brought McDonald’s food aboard. Probably looked stupid, but probably no more stupid than some people usually look. Those don’t stop smells or any “normal-sized” chemical substance. Then again, they also don’t do anything for contagion when people leave their noses out, which is how I usually see them on the bus. **perfectparanoia** , they may not be hoarders in the highest degree or in the “oh noes you cannot throw away the dummy I used as an infant” sense, as apparently the floors were still open, but yes, they’re hoarders. My brother’s household scares me. You open closets at your peril. They’ve got three storage rooms in the same building; again, open them at your own risk and with 112 on speed dial. The only reason they haven’t gotten a fourth is that when SiL asked for one, Bro was unemployed and pointed out they couldn’t afford it. They tend to live hand-to-mouth, because how are we not going to go on vacation? And it was so cheap, how could I not buy it? Plus, a second home that’s a financial black hole… and which once fixed at an exorbitant cost will be yet another place with closets that can be filled beyond capacity. Last time The Kidlets and I happened to be at Mom’s at the same time, I opened a closet and The Kidlet exclaimed “there’s room!” Yep, lots of room, all that closet currently holds is two coats and the “electricity toolbox”. It’s nice, isn’t it, being able to find things without an RFID tracer? ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/333 "2013-11-14T04:53:14Z")
Re. “Alice’s Restaurant”: just in time for this Thanksgiving! 😃 I was wrong about which day is trash hauling day. Apparently the dumpster is now overly-full, with more kid stuff. Hopefully pickup will be before my husband leaves for work tomorrow, and he can toss in our full bag of garbage that’s been waiting since Sunday, and lock it back up. Like I said, I’d be OK if they didn’t stuff the dumpster days before trash day. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/334 "2013-11-14T04:55:57Z")
> [@flatlined](#): > > While I hate to disagree with such a nice person as you, returning their gifts might be dangerous and the renter’s landlord probably won’t care about what their tenant is doing off their property. I used to work for a Domino’s that was across the alley from a budget apartment building. The renters would cut the locks off our dumpster and fill it with broken furniture and old electronics and the garbage collectors would charge us for hauling furniture and electronics off. > > The landlord didn’t care (he probably encouraged it because there was a fee for hauling furniture and electronics off), the cops were polite and many of them were worth calling just to look at, but honestly, filling up someone else’s dumpster isn’t a high-priority crime. > > She’s already got the attitude, and she lives in Texas so of course she has a gun for her purse…she’s so almost there that I understand her daughter worrying! > > No, but I have to ask why you are asking. The rangers we gave the documentation to said something about how they loved it when this happened (pics and documentation, we already knew they loved it when we came out and cleaned up), so it can’t be that uncommon. > > Do you have a story to share??? Arlo Guthrie probably does. Careful, though; he’ll talk your ear off with that story if you let him. (Or, what **Cheez\_Whia** said.) ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/335 "2013-11-14T07:23:46Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Yeah, I’m picturing Lynn with a walker, an attitude and a huge taser. Actually, I use a walking stick, and as \*\*flatlined \*\*noted, I have a [gun](http://www.cabelas.com/product/Ruger-LC-mm-Pistol/1182399.uts). Kicks like a mule. I might have to get a smaller one. And I’ve had the attitude for a long, long time. I was known as “that hardass bitch” in Las Vegas, in the 80s, when I worked at a convenience store. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/336 "2013-11-14T13:16:06Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Yeah, I’m picturing Lynn with a walker, an attitude and a huge taser. > [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > Actually, I use a walking stick, and as \*\*flatlined \*\*noted, I have a [gun](http://www.cabelas.com/product/Ruger-LC-mm-Pistol/1182399.uts). Ok, now I’m picturing a walker decked out like some scifi weapon, with a swivel mounted pistol in the center and two (TWO!) tasers, one on either side. And a laser targeting system. ---
**Author:** ![minor7flat5](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/minor7flat5/32/258_2.png) [@minor7flat5](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minor7flat5)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/337 "2013-11-14T13:26:07Z")
> [@flatlined](#): > > > [@minor7flat5](#): > > > > Did this happen to be on a Thanksgiving? > > No, but I have to ask why you are asking. The rangers we gave the documentation to said something about how they loved it when this happened (pics and documentation, we already knew they loved it when we came out and cleaned up), so it can’t be that uncommon. > > Do you have a story to share??? If you haven’t already done a :smack: after seeing others’ responses then you owe it to yourself to listen to the (rather long) song. It’s a long humorous rambling shaggy dog story that starts with garbage dumping and ends up in a bit of a rant about the Vietnam war. And the dumping episode took place on Thanksgiving. I just asked my 21yo daughter if the name “Alice’s Restaurant” had meaning to her and she shook her head and looked puzzled. We figure it might be something for the over 30 set. I told her to look it up on Youtube. ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/338 "2013-11-14T13:35:42Z")
> [@minor7flat5](#): > > I just asked my 21yo daughter if the name “Alice’s Restaurant” had meaning to her and she shook her head and looked puzzled. We figure it might be something for the over 30 set. Possibly over 35, because a few years ago I had to explain to my cousins why I timed my drive to the Thanksgiving gathering so carefully. I don’t know if radio stations play it at noon on Thanksgiving all over the country or if it’s a regional thing, but even now that I have it on my iPod and can listen anytime, I always, _always_ save it for noon on Thanksgiving. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/339 "2013-11-14T16:43:29Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Ok, now I’m picturing a walker decked out like some scifi weapon, with a swivel mounted pistol in the center and two (TWO!) tasers, one on either side. And a laser targeting system. I would totally use a walker like that, even if I don’t need a walker yet. I think there should be a wooden spoon in there somewhere, too, for those times when a taser would be too much. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/340 "2013-11-14T17:57:00Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Ok, now I’m picturing a walker decked out like some scifi weapon, with a swivel mounted pistol in the center and two (TWO!) tasers, one on either side. And a laser targeting system. I think we ALL want a walker like that! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729.md?page=18)