# 'No' Means November Rants

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 31, 2013, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729 "2013-10-31T07:36:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/61 "2013-11-01T21:07:41Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> I’m still not getting the part where people _want_ spiders in their houses. My husband wants to keep spiders in our house to eat the other bugs; the way I figure it, if I see them, I kill them.

I like the spiders because fuck ants. And fuck fruit flies too. I also keep house centipedes around because \*seriously \*fuck ants.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/62 "2013-11-01T21:59:40Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> I do not wipe whilst seated. No man does!

Of course I do. But my name isn’t really “No man”; that’s just what I told the Cyclops.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/63 "2013-11-01T22:27:40Z")

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> [@SpazCat](#):
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> I like the spiders because fuck ants. And fuck fruit flies too. I also keep house centipedes around because \*seriously \*fuck ants.

Makes note to never visit SpazCat \<shudder\>

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/64 "2013-11-02T00:03:32Z")

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> [@Skara\_Brae](#):
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> When you first set up your Kindle, it has to index all of your books. This burns up the battery like crazy. I left mine plugged in for 36 hours after I first set it up. Once it completes indexing, you should notice a big improvement in battery life. (It still won’t last 8 weeks, though.)

Thanks, that’s good to know. Maybe I’ll end up keeping it.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/65 "2013-11-02T00:17:48Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> It flushes the second I stand up. The very second! I get no time to wipe, and I do not wipe whilst seated. No man does! 😕

I’ve never stood up to wipe in my life. Do people really do this? Standing squeezes your goddamned asscheeks together, unless you squat or something but then why aren’t you just reaching around to wipe while sitting like a normal human being?

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**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/66 "2013-11-02T00:30:10Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> I’ve never stood up to wipe in my life. Do people really do this?

No. Sometimes things are messy enough without standing up, I can’t imagine deliberately making it worse by standing up first. I must say, when I first read that, my first thought was, “no wonder some dudes get streaky underwear!”

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**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/67 "2013-11-02T00:41:25Z")

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All this talk about house spiders. I had no idea they were so popular. I’m really bummed because we’re having company on Sunday, and I’m probably going to have to destroy my front room spider’s home. She so wonderfully took care of the houseflies that were plaguing us recently. I didn’t bother to take it down when friends and family were around, but we don’t know these people that well. I feel terrible already.

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**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/68 "2013-11-02T00:45:13Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Two local geniuses thought it would be just a hilarious Halloween trick to pretend to attack people with a fake ax.

Some dudes thought it was hilarious to run around Chicago yesterday, shooting people with paintball guns. One of their victims pulled out a real gun and shot one of them. Too bad.

> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> I get pills for my cat’s hyperthyroidism; I read the insert on these pills, and they say, “Do not crush.”

Don’t worry about it. We instruct people to get it into the kitty any way that’s best for all. Both felimazole and methimazole get cut to the correct dose (i.e. give 1/4 of a 5mg tablet), and compounding is pretty much equivalent to crushing pills and adding them to tasty chewable or liquid additives. This is part of the reason I take all inserts out of the packages, so people don’t fret over stuff in there that’s different from what we instruct. Some meds aren’t even labeled for the species they’re prescribed, and I prefer not to deal with the client calls fretting over the insert that says the medication isn’t supposed to be given to cats.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/69 "2013-11-02T01:12:22Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> I’ve never stood up to wipe in my life. Do people really do this? Standing squeezes your goddamned asscheeks together, unless you squat or something but then why aren’t you just reaching around to wipe while sitting like a normal human being?

Yes, people do actually do this. I’ve never sat and wiped in my life. I understand that appears not to be the usual way people do it, but it’s never made sense any other way to me.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/70 "2013-11-02T01:42:17Z")

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Whether we sit to wipe or stand and wipe, surely we can all agree that auto-flushing toilets are of the Devil. Stand, and they auto-flush. Lean forward or adjust your position _while still on the seat_, and the damned things auto-flush!!! They must be purged from the land with fire and sword!

(Also, people who fail to flush manually-flushing public toilets–thus causing the Public Restroom Powers That Be to install those monstrous abominations of auto-flushing toilets–are also contemptible and wicked and must die by being given swirlies.)

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/71 "2013-11-02T03:01:03Z")

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The auto-flush toilets where I work aren’t that sensitive, or they’re calibrated differently. I can wipe off the seat and then put a gasket on it and sit down without it flushing. But when I stand up, they flush. If they flush because you sneezed or brushed your face, they’re set too damned sensitive.

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**Author:** ![flatlined](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb9ed0/32.png) [@flatlined](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flatlined)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/72 "2013-11-02T03:25:32Z")

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**Chimera** that is an awesome description of the easiest way to pill a cat. The only thing I do differently is hold kitteh’s tail between my thighs as we are sitting down.

The main reason I don’t like crushing pills to put in food is because sometimes all of the food isn’t eaten. This is also why I don’t like liquids unless they are really nummy tasting to cats. I want to be sure that my target is actually injesting the full dose.

I think that liquid clavamox is about the stupidest dispensed med ever. Who would ever think that cats like bubblegum? :smack:

**Cat Whisperer** now that your very pretty kitteh is on maintenance meds, as long as you are both happy with the delivery method, keep doing what works. Do you have a kitty fountain yet? You want to keep those kidneys well hydrated.

Buttercup has a new doggie friend at the dogpark. If her friend isn’t there, she runs after balls thrown by my dog walking buddy, but if her friend is there all she wants to do is run around the fence with her friend the beautiful afghan hound. Watching them run together is honestly “poetry in motion”.

My dog walking buddy doesn’t understand and acts like he feels that she doesn’t like him just because she is running with another dog that can keep up with her. I’m going to talk to his mom this weekend, I’m not sure that I should keep bringing him if half the time he gets jealous and sad.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/73 "2013-11-02T04:03:30Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> I’ve never stood up to wipe in my life. Do people really do this? Standing squeezes your goddamned asscheeks together, unless you squat or something but then why aren’t you just reaching around to wipe while sitting like a normal human being?

Yes, of course, I stand up at straight attention and grind my butt-cheeks together as much as possible. Then, while cheeks are clenched, I try to force the toilet paper in between them, mostly unsuccessfully.

Or maybe I just lift myself off the seat, which is as easy for me as leaning over is for you.

Why do you feel the need to be so fucking judgmental?  
Roddy

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/74 "2013-11-02T04:30:07Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Two local geniuses thought it would be just a hilarious Halloween trick to pretend to attack people with a fake ax. One of the victims was a young mother with her two children. They had stopped at a gas station to change a flat tire when these morons came out of nowhere and pretended to assault her. She screamed for her kids to run and don’t stop. The two stopped, started laughing and ran off. The cops found them and they’re in jail on assault charges. Meanwhile the woman can’t sleep at night and is obviously (from an interview) still traumatized from what she thought was a life-threatening event. Fucking knuckleheads.

That’s a real good way to get dead in a Stand Your Ground state.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/75 "2013-11-02T06:09:44Z")

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> [@SeaDragonTattoo](#):
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> Some dudes thought it was hilarious to run around Chicago yesterday, shooting people with paintball guns. One of their victims pulled out a real gun and shot one of them. Too bad.
> 
> Don’t worry about it. We instruct people to get it into the kitty any way that’s best for all. Both felimazole and methimazole get cut to the correct dose (i.e. give 1/4 of a 5mg tablet), and compounding is pretty much equivalent to crushing pills and adding them to tasty chewable or liquid additives. This is part of the reason I take all inserts out of the packages, so people don’t fret over stuff in there that’s different from what we instruct. Some meds aren’t even labeled for the species they’re prescribed, and I prefer not to deal with the client calls fretting over the insert that says the medication isn’t supposed to be given to cats.

That’s good to know; her last thyroid check a couple of weeks ago had her right in the middle of the range, so the meds are working well.

> [@flatlined](#):
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> \<snip\>  
> **Cat Whisperer** now that your very pretty kitteh is on maintenance meds, as long as you are both happy with the delivery method, keep doing what works. Do you have a kitty fountain yet? You want to keep those kidneys well hydrated.\<snip\>

We have a fountain, but she won’t drink out of it. She won’t drink out of a water bowl, either - she’ll drink out of a cup on the table (ideally a human’s drink of water), and she loves the running tap - she has her humans well-trained, that we jump up and turn the water on for her every time she  
goes into the bathroom. 😃

Here’s the varmint in question - [we call them Queens for a reason.](http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s142/featherlou/Family/SAM_2887_zps4ad2285a.jpg) 🙂

[Just singing a little opera for Daddy.](http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s142/featherlou/Family/SAM_2866_zps5afdbca5.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/76 "2013-11-02T06:10:48Z")

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My rant for the evening - it’s November 1st. We went to a Halloween store tonight to get in on the sales, and when we were at the cashier, he told us that things weren’t all on sale yet - the huge sign at the front door said,  
ENTIRE STORE 50% OFF!  
starting November 3rd

It ain’t getting any _less_ Halloween in two more days, is it? 😕

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/77 "2013-11-02T06:57:39Z")

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Oooooh, I always wanted to own a store!

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/78 "2013-11-02T07:17:09Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> My current office floor potties auto-flush too quickly, and at the drop of a mouse cough. So I get a flush once (while in the process of standing) and another (while in the process of re-pantsing & opening the door) so I feel like I’ve laid down a log when I haven’t. Also, I think other women think that of me, and we can’t have that, now, can we?

Two of the toilets in my workplace’s restroom have such severe flow issues that you often have to flush two or three times just to deal with #1. :eek:

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**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/79 "2013-11-02T08:01:08Z")

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> [@WolfpackJeep](#):
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> Two of the toilets in my workplace’s restroom have such severe flow issues that you often have to flush two or three times just to deal with #1. :eek:

How far is it from the bathroom to the cafeteria? I’m not necessarily implying a connection, but it’s something to consider. 😃

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-means-november-rants/672729/80 "2013-11-02T08:29:34Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> I’m afraid I’m about to sound like a pretentious nerd but …
> 
> I might agree with a more general point, but I’m calling bullshit on the idea that the 30/60/90 triangle is “hard to memorize.”
> 
> Have you memorized that the sides of a 60/60/60 triangle are equal? 😛 What happens to a side when you bisect it? 😉 See? It’s just not hard to understand that sin(30°) = 0.5. Pythagoras will then give you the cosine.

That’s not memorizing it, that’s rederiving it which I **can** do. 😛

I did take the GRE, I did okay. It really does require you to **know** the cases, at least for the question set I got. I lost a bit of time rederiving things like 30/60/90 on the fly. It doesn’t seem like it should have an impact since it’s such a trivial derivation, but it does.

I’ve also never been good at intuitive math or quick arithmetic, there were a lot of questions like “is this greater than or less than this?” where I think the “intended” method of solving it didn’t involve actually doing any calculations or algebra, but being able to tell that some numeric calculation would obviously come out above or below a certain value. I don’t necessarily call bullshit on those questions, but I don’t think they really reflect my ability to do the kind of math my field deals with.

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