# No men will be dipping their wick in this crazy

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-men-will-be-dipping-their-wick-in-this-crazy/677893>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 4, 2014, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-men-will-be-dipping-their-wick-in-this-crazy/677893 "2014-01-04T18:14:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sahirrnee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sahirrnee/32/13937_2.png) [@Sahirrnee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sahirrnee)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-men-will-be-dipping-their-wick-in-this-crazy/677893/1 "2014-01-04T18:14:14Z")

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[http://witchwind.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/piv-is-always-rape-ok/](http://witchwind.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/piv-is-always-rape-ok/)

I swear you can’t make this stuff up

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**Author:** ![Blackberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@Blackberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackberry)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-men-will-be-dipping-their-wick-in-this-crazy/677893/2 "2014-01-04T18:25:01Z")

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I’m really confused about the “it’s unnatural” part.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-men-will-be-dipping-their-wick-in-this-crazy/677893/3 "2014-01-04T18:33:00Z")

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I really hope that the 22 comments on that page are all from the author’s sock puppets.

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-men-will-be-dipping-their-wick-in-this-crazy/677893/4 "2014-01-04T18:34:42Z")

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I saw reference to “not posting” some comments, so she must be individually approving each comment.

Under her ideology, when a woman rapes-via-intercourse a man, is the man still the rapist?

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-men-will-be-dipping-their-wick-in-this-crazy/677893/5 "2014-01-04T18:40:53Z")

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Dis bitch is _nuts_.

> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
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> I saw reference to “not posting” some comments, so she must be individually approving each comment.
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> Under her ideology, when a woman rapes-via-intercourse a man, is the man still the rapist?

Women who rape men are just turning the notion of the patriarchy back on itself. If he had chosen not to be born with a penis, then he wouldn’t have been raped. She was only trying to prevent him from raping women in the future so it’s OK. Don’t try to mansplain your way out of this I’M NOT LISTENING LALALALLAA

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**Author:** ![Sahirrnee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sahirrnee/32/13937_2.png) [@Sahirrnee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sahirrnee)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-men-will-be-dipping-their-wick-in-this-crazy/677893/6 "2014-01-04T18:46:36Z")

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I don’t understand the ‘unnatural’ part either. Unless you consider what happens in nature to be unnatural.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-men-will-be-dipping-their-wick-in-this-crazy/677893/7 "2014-01-04T18:47:32Z")

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What the hell is PIV? Also, this person has some serious mental hangups.

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**Author:** ![Sahirrnee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sahirrnee/32/13937_2.png) [@Sahirrnee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sahirrnee)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-men-will-be-dipping-their-wick-in-this-crazy/677893/8 "2014-01-04T18:49:03Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> What the hell is PIV? Also, this person has some serious mental hangups.

PIV - penis in vagina - rape.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-men-will-be-dipping-their-wick-in-this-crazy/677893/9 "2014-01-04T18:49:42Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> What the hell is PIV? Also, this person has some serious mental hangups.

By context I’m guessing it’s **P** enis **I** n **V** agina. But I could be totally wrong - I am a man, after all.

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**Author:** ![RobDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f07891/32.png) [@RobDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobDog)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-men-will-be-dipping-their-wick-in-this-crazy/677893/10 "2014-01-04T18:50:09Z")

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I clicked the link and read the text in the banner:

“radical wind  
blowing through female outerspace”

and all I could think of was fart gags.

I am very, very sorry.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-men-will-be-dipping-their-wick-in-this-crazy/677893/11 "2014-01-04T18:51:23Z")

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I could understand if this came from, say, a woman who had been raised on an FLDS compound. Intercourse and childbearing are certainly used as a means of entrapment and enslavement in those societies. And I don’t think a woman who has no say in choosing her husband, and has no options in the society other than marriage, can ever truly be said to have provided consent. Or maybe “informed consent” is the better description.

But the basic premise of her rant is that PIV is never pleasurable for women, and that’s where her personal experience is tripping her up.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-men-will-be-dipping-their-wick-in-this-crazy/677893/12 "2014-01-04T19:00:44Z")

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“… shaking her like he would stuff a corpse…”

Wait, what?

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**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-men-will-be-dipping-their-wick-in-this-crazy/677893/13 "2014-01-04T19:06:09Z")

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My head hurts and I only read part of it.

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**Author:** ![randompattern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@randompattern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randompattern)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-men-will-be-dipping-their-wick-in-this-crazy/677893/14 "2014-01-04T19:15:22Z")

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I bet she’s fun at parties!

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**Author:** ![Blackberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@Blackberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackberry)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-men-will-be-dipping-their-wick-in-this-crazy/677893/15 "2014-01-04T19:21:05Z")

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Responding to one of the comments, she says this:

> [@](#):
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> PIV isn’t natural but externally imposed, cultural.

I guess it’s one of those cultural things that happens in every single culture ever and in nature.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-men-will-be-dipping-their-wick-in-this-crazy/677893/16 "2014-01-04T19:24:26Z")

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No no, I think men are supposed to dump their sperm on some rocks or something and allow women to scoop it up if they make the non-culturally-imposed decision to do so, if educated in how to break through your patriarchy-imposed conditioning first. You know, like… some fish do. Maybe. Yeah.

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**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-men-will-be-dipping-their-wick-in-this-crazy/677893/17 "2014-01-04T19:34:27Z")

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My favorite part

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> The fact intercourse causes so many infections and tears and warts attests to the unnaturalness of intercourse, that it’s not meant to be. The vagina’s primary function isn’t to be penetrated by a penis but to eject a baby for birth. They are two muscle tissues / sphincters pressed against each other to help the baby be pushed out. Penetration of the penis into the vagina is completely unnecessary for conception.

completely unnecessary?  
the good news is she won’t be passing this craziness on to her daughter.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-men-will-be-dipping-their-wick-in-this-crazy/677893/18 "2014-01-04T19:41:05Z")

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Daaaang…

…I wonder how can she bear to exist in society, aware of all the rape all around, knowing that virtually every adult woman she looks at or speaks to was recently raped and/or will shortly be raped?

I guess that \*would \*drive you batshit…

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-men-will-be-dipping-their-wick-in-this-crazy/677893/19 "2014-01-04T19:42:53Z")

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> [@Ferret\_Herder](#):
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> No no, I think men are supposed to dump their sperm on some rocks or something and allow women to scoop it up if they make the non-culturally-imposed decision to do so, if educated in how to break through your patriarchy-imposed conditioning first. You know, like… some fish do. Maybe. Yeah.

From one of her comments:

> [@](#):
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> There are many other ways of becoming pregnant than through penetration of the penis into the vagina. For instance, putting sperm on the vulva is enough to become pregnant. Women, if they wanted to become pregnant, could just ask a man for some sperm and apply it herself.

So, yeah. Pretty much.

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**Author:** ![Inna\_Minnit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Inna\_Minnit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inna_Minnit)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-men-will-be-dipping-their-wick-in-this-crazy/677893/20 "2014-01-04T19:51:28Z")

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I enjoy a good session of PIV. And if it’s really good, it needs to happen often.

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