# No military sites inspections: Velayati

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-military-sites-inspections-velayati/726210>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 26, 2015, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-military-sites-inspections-velayati/726210 "2015-07-26T04:27:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-military-sites-inspections-velayati/726210/61 "2015-07-28T21:18:50Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> It has nothing to do with how much US unilateral economic sanctions would hurt Iran. It has everything to do with the Supreme Leader and the hardliners having plenty of fodder to portray the US as untrustworthy, turning its back on the deal, double-dealing, etc. Congress imposing sanctions sinks the deal, today or in the future. Then Iran gets pissed and trashes the deal. **Then snapback happens.** It’s so obvious how this would play out!

Again, fantasy land. Pure fantasy. If you think that anyone other than US will actually impose those sanctions if US, basically unilaterally, impose theirs, that’s pure fantasy.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-military-sites-inspections-velayati/726210/62 "2015-07-28T22:25:14Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> Again, fantasy land. Pure fantasy. If you think that anyone other than US will actually impose those sanctions if US, basically unilaterally, impose theirs, that’s pure fantasy.

Even if this is true (and I’m far from convinced), we and the world are still a lot better off with the deal than with the deal being rejected. All of the bad stuff being described would happen without the deal, it seems to me, while with the deal there’s a possibility it wouldn’t happen.

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-military-sites-inspections-velayati/726210/63 "2015-07-28T22:27:01Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Even if this is true (and I’m far from convinced), we and the world are still a lot better off with the deal than with the deal being rejected. All of the bad stuff being described would happen without the deal, it seems to me, while with the deal there’s a possibility it wouldn’t happen.

Translation: “bad deal is better than no deal”.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-military-sites-inspections-velayati/726210/64 "2015-07-28T22:38:29Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> Translation: “bad deal is better than no deal”.

It’s not a bad deal (in my opinion based on what I’ve read). But even if it’s as bad as the critics say, it’s better than no deal. In the real world of today, America and the world are better of with this deal than with this deal being rejected, good or bad. There’s nothing that I’ve heard that could happen with this deal in place that would be worse than the things happening with the deal being rejected.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-military-sites-inspections-velayati/726210/65 "2015-07-28T22:39:29Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> Translation: “bad deal is better than no deal”.

Alternate response…

Translation: “I agree but I’m opposing the deal anyway because Obama”.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-military-sites-inspections-velayati/726210/66 "2015-07-28T23:19:15Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> Translation: “bad deal is better than no deal”.

You haven’t actually provided one solid reason why it is a bad deal. Much less come up with a better alternative. This is like the GOP’s healthcare position: we hate what Obama did, but have no ideas ourselves.

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