# No Mistakes President = More Quagmires ? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 16, 2004, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-mistakes-president-more-quagmires/240365 "2004-04-16T14:31:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![iamme99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/57b2e6/32.png) [@iamme99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamme99)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2004, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-mistakes-president-more-quagmires/240365/41 "2004-04-23T08:26:22Z")
> [@DKW](#): > > Rashak Mani - Well, first of all, Bush has to _finish_ in Iraq before he can think about repeating it anywhere. If Iraq descends into ethnic chaos after June 30 or an anti-American leader gets elected, it’s doubtful that he’ll even get any kind of support for another invasion. > > Man, I really feel for our good folks in the armed forces right now. They’re stretched to the breaking point as it is. Perhaps not. The man is truly insane. Check this out: > [@](#): > > \*\*Iran ‘Will Be Dealt With,’ Bush Says \*\* > Bid to Start at U.N., President Says > By Mike Allen > Washington Post Staff Writer > Thursday, April 22, 2004; Page A06 > > \*President Bush told newspaper editors in Washington yesterday that Iran “will be dealt with, starting through the United Nations” if it does not stop developing nuclear weapons and begin total cooperation with international inspectors. \* > > Bush said he will encourage allies to insist to the Iranians that they live up to commitments to cooperate with U.N. inspectors and end any enriching and reprocessing of uranium. > > “The Iranians need to feel the pressure from the world that any nuclear weapons program will be uniformly condemned – it’s essential that they hear that message,” he said. “The development of a nuclear weapon in Iran is intolerable, and a program is intolerable. . . . Otherwise, they will be dealt with, starting through the United Nations.” > > Earlier this month, Iran pledged to speed up cooperation with the United Nations’ International Atomic Energy Agency, but called for an end of inspections by June. > > The language was reminiscent of comments Bush made about Iraq long before the war, and to admonitions he has issued to Syria. Iran, along with Iraq and North Korea, was part of the “axis of evil” in his State of the Union address in 2002. > > [Iran ‘Will Be Dealt With,’ Bush Says](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32542-2004Apr21.html) ---
**Author:** ![iamme99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/57b2e6/32.png) [@iamme99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamme99)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2004, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-mistakes-president-more-quagmires/240365/42 "2004-04-23T08:28:43Z")
> [@Rashak Mani](#): > > I thought the cost of the bombs and other ordinance was included in war estimates. There is a running joke here about Americans going to war everytime the due dates for bombs and tomahawks are near… so they basically were going to scrap most of them anyway… and the US gets some convenient war going in order to use them. Nope. And we need more money! See: > [@](#): > > War costs $4.7 billion per month: > > In surprisingly sharp terms, members of the House Armed Services Committee criticized the Bush administration’s plan to wait to seek additional money until after the election. [http://www.qctimes.com/internal.php?story\_id=1027259&t=Nation%2B/%2BWorld&c=26,1027259](http://www.qctimes.com/internal.php?story_id=1027259&t=Nation%2B/%2BWorld&c=26,1027259) ---
**Author:** ![Rashak\_Mani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@Rashak\_Mani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rashak_Mani)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2004, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-mistakes-president-more-quagmires/240365/43 "2004-04-23T12:30:30Z")
Hhmmm… I thought of another angle to my questions: Would it be a valid point for the Democrats to claim that 4 more years for Bush would mean risking another invasion and quagmire ? That Bush is the military adventure president the same way they try to portray Kerry as “soft on defense” ? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-mistakes-president-more-quagmires/240365.md?page=2)