# No more fake crises. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 16, 2004, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-fake-crises/275023 "2004-11-16T06:56:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2004, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-fake-crises/275023/1 "2004-11-16T06:56:55Z")
I don’t know what to say, really. If people don’t realize how low it is to jerk other Dopers; hell, other **people** , in any situation, around, I can’t compose a post that would make them understand. ---
**Author:** ![stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stately_plump_buck_mulligan)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2004, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-fake-crises/275023/2 "2004-11-16T06:58:20Z")
Huh? Cite? Link? Clue? ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2004, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-fake-crises/275023/3 "2004-11-16T06:58:54Z")
[Link](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=286876) ---
**Author:** ![Pixiesnix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Pixiesnix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pixiesnix)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2004, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-fake-crises/275023/4 "2004-11-16T06:59:00Z")
She can’t really link to the original post that started all this mess, as it’s been closed and hidden by the admins. ---
**Author:** ![Pixiesnix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Pixiesnix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pixiesnix)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2004, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-fake-crises/275023/5 "2004-11-16T07:00:07Z")
Oops, I stand corrected. ---
**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2004, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-fake-crises/275023/6 "2004-11-16T07:01:19Z")
I don’t think it was all fake. Obviously not drunk when he posted. A very specific diagnosis. Not overly dramatic. If you were going to fake your own demise, you’d be unlikely to do it like that. I don’t think a pile-on would be wise. ---
**Author:** ![Roland\_Orzabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@Roland\_Orzabal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roland_Orzabal)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2004, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-fake-crises/275023/7 "2004-11-16T07:03:24Z")
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again, and it will be true every time. Some people are just assholes. For no reason. They don’t think about others’ feelings, and they don’t care. They get a whim to do something and they do it. To hell with the consequences and to hell with whom it affects or whom it hurts. Regarding the case I suspect you’re talking about: I personally reserve judgement for the time being, and will cast it when and if we get more information on what exactly happened. I base the decision to do so solely on the fact that he never struck me as an asshole in the past. I can, however, completely understand with those who choose to do otherwise. I don’t know why people do this kind of thing. For the most part, I somehow doubt whether they do, either. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2004, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-fake-crises/275023/8 "2004-11-16T07:05:45Z")
I apologize in advance if it turns out that he really was in the physical crisis he originally posted about. But if it was just a cry for attention for attention’s sake, or whatever that “fit of rage” was about…well, honestly, I don’t give a fuck about a “fit of rage”, if other Dopers were distraught for no good reason. **roger** , what are you basing your assessment on? ---
**Author:** ![Berkut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@Berkut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Berkut)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2004, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-fake-crises/275023/9 "2004-11-16T07:05:49Z")
Short version for people just tuning in: Inigo Montoya posted a thread in IMHO saying he was going to kill himself. That thread was removed. Mdm. President started the thread Rilchiam linked to above, expressing concern about Inigo. Inigo posts to it, says he’s alive after all. Now, this thread is the third posted about this mess. ---
**Author:** ![stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stately_plump_buck_mulligan)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2004, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-fake-crises/275023/10 "2004-11-16T07:09:18Z")
That’s some shit. Is there any way the original thread could have been authentic, and **Inigo** just… didn’t go through with the deal? I hope he is truly okay, either way. ---
**Author:** ![Roland\_Orzabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@Roland\_Orzabal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roland_Orzabal)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2004, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-fake-crises/275023/11 "2004-11-16T07:12:13Z")
“This kind of thing”, of course, includes posting without previewing. I think my point was still clear, but, upon reviewing the thread – specifically **roger thornhill** ’s sentiment – I want to make absolutely sure. Posting a fake suicide note is an asshole thing to do. However, I am not at all sure that that was what transpired tonight. The poster in question has always seemed level-headed, friendly and intelligent to me. Like everyone else here, my first priority here is wondering whether or not he’s all right. Second is finding out exactly what happened. Only after both of those have been resolved can I feel secure in making any judgement calls about anybody’s character. Whatever’s going on, I just hope everybody is okay. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2004, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-fake-crises/275023/12 "2004-11-16T07:17:09Z")
> [@Roland Orzabal](#): > > Whatever’s going on, I just hope everybody is okay. Seyla. ---
**Author:** ![WeRSauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f19dbf/32.png) [@WeRSauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WeRSauron)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2004, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-fake-crises/275023/13 "2004-11-16T07:18:49Z")
I must support **Roland Orzabal**. I prefer not to pass judgment on someone until I know all the points of an issue from both sides thereof. If something horrible has happened to another Doper causing him/her to act in a manner that would upset others and cause an immense amount of anxiety, I can understand. I would make a certain judgment. But if such an action were done simply for attention, for fun, etc., then my judgment would be quite different. Right now, it is not possible to determine either way. I am glad the Doper in question is still alive. I await further illumination regarding what actually happened, to support him if need be or chastize him if necessary. WRS ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2004, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-fake-crises/275023/14 "2004-11-16T07:19:21Z")
The thing you need to realize, **Roland** , is we’ve seen this before. Regular, seemingly decent people making “emergency” threads and getting everyone worked up. And then it turns out to be nothing. This is bullshit! Like I said in the other thread, I will be **so** amazed if people here even bother to give a shit about anyone anymore. I don’t doubt the good hearts of most of the people here, but even good people can only take so much. This is fucking ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2004, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-fake-crises/275023/15 "2004-11-16T07:24:27Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > **roger** , what are you basing your assessment on? Just a feeling, I guess - I don’t know **Inigo** as person or poster - based on what I wrote above: the language and tenor of his original post. If I am sceptical of anything, it’s the “fit of rage” thing. But I hope I’m wrong. ---
**Author:** ![stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stately_plump_buck_mulligan)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2004, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-fake-crises/275023/16 "2004-11-16T07:24:47Z")
So it’s happened before. I don’t think that means that **Inigo** is not in need of some serious help right now, or that he was totally faking. You’re upset that it turned out to be “nothing?” Consider the alternative. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2004, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-fake-crises/275023/17 "2004-11-16T07:25:27Z")
What about that one hypothetical time when the BS meter gave a false alarm, though, **Silver Fire?** Easy as it is to speculate, it’s just not worth it. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2004, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-fake-crises/275023/18 "2004-11-16T07:36:16Z")
I hope he gets what help he needs, even, and especially if this was ‘only’ a cry for help. I can understand feeling a bit peeved if someone was yanking your chain, but… given these circumstances, isn’t pity and/or compassion a more appropriate response than annoyance? The post of his I read in the linked thread almost sounded… I don’t know… commited “doper-cide”… It’s almost like he’s (obviously) emotionally wrecked right now and further upset by the fact that he’s tarnished his reputation on the Dope. Maybe we shouldn’t confound that right now? P.S. If you happen to be reading this **Inigo** , please feel free to IM me or email me. If you need someone to talk to, drop me an email and I’ll give you my cell number and/or give you a ring. Hang in there. ---
**Author:** ![moriah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@moriah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moriah)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2004, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-fake-crises/275023/19 "2004-11-16T07:39:25Z")
Almost as stupid as a fake suicide farewell on a message board is the panic that ensued as if: 1. We actually know the person, and that his or her online persona is not some fabrication; 2. That if someone was going to actually kill themselves, then we could figure out that poster’s real life identity and get emergency help to them in time… by means of a fucking message board! 3. The game in the above linked thread where idiots vaguely repeat the emergency nature of a thread that was yanked but won’t reveal the full details, causing all those who never saw the original “good-bye sweet life” thread to beg to know what the emergency is in breathless, frantic tones and then, said idiots emailing the rubber neckers the missing thread. Helpful? No. Ghoulish? Yes. If a thread is yanked, it’s yanked for a reason. Demanding to know its contents or passing that info along in email contradicts the damage control the mods are taking. Go to sleep. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2004, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-fake-crises/275023/20 "2004-11-16T07:44:11Z")
No, I’m not upset it turned out to be nothing. I’m upset it had to “turn out” at all. People were clearly emotionally invested in this, clearly feeling helpless and confused, clearly hurting. So when he comes back over two hours later and posts nothing more than “I won’t go into it”, yeah, that’s kinda lame. Who knows what parts, if any, of the original OP are true? I don’t. All I know is some guy “committed doper-cide” (whatever that means) in a “fit of rage” that he just doesn’t want to talk about. Meanwhile, people are LIGHTING CANDLES for him and begging him to think of his children. What the fuck? Does he have a cancerous brain tumor? You know what? May the deity of his choice be with him if that’s true. But to come here, tell dozens of people that you’re going to off yourself in one hour, and then wait two hours just to come back and say, “Meh. I was pissed.”? You’re fucking right I’m upset about that. **Jimmy** , that’s exactly my concern. Some people here are already _extremely_ cynical about certain topics. “Oh, my baby’s dying of cancer.” “Oh, my mom’s in ICU after a terrible accident.” “Oh, dinosaurs destroyed my house, and now I’m homeless!” Why? Because of people who post things that aren’t true. I’m one of those cynical people. Hell, I talk to **aesiron** every single day. I like to think I know him. But when **Gr8Kat** posted about his recent accident, my first reaction was, “Riiiiight.” We’ve had pit threads like this before; posters have said (years ago, even) that they absolutely **will not** go into so called “sympathy threads” because they feel like they’re being lied to. I’m glad he’s alive, I am. And I, too, hope like hell he gets the help he needs (_especially_ if this whole thing’s a fake). I’m just not very appreciative of the emotional distress he’s caused, and the three line “explanation” didn’t help. Not at all. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-fake-crises/275023.md?page=2)