# No more shopping in your pyjamas - what do you think?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-shopping-in-your-pyjamas-what-do-you-think/528548>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [February 11, 2010, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-shopping-in-your-pyjamas-what-do-you-think/528548 "2010-02-11T13:47:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-shopping-in-your-pyjamas-what-do-you-think/528548/21 "2010-02-11T17:23:39Z")

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Pyjamas _are_ pants.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-shopping-in-your-pyjamas-what-do-you-think/528548/22 "2010-02-11T17:28:26Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> So what? I can go into any shop with ripped jeans and no belt and messy hair and a T-shirt with holes in it.

Yeah but I doubt you wear those items to bed so you are good to go.

> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> They’re open 24 hours a day. What sort of people do you think are buying groceries at 3am?

Crackheads. Crackheads who are out on the corner trying to score in normal outside wearing clothes. If the crackheads are wearing pajamas then they are probably passed out in bed so they wouldn’t be shopping anyways.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-shopping-in-your-pyjamas-what-do-you-think/528548/23 "2010-02-11T17:28:32Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Pyjamas _are_ pants.

There are some notable differences in both appearance and function. If they were indistinguishable, the policy would be meaningless because one could not tell the difference and so it would not be possible to discriminate against pajama-wearers.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-shopping-in-your-pyjamas-what-do-you-think/528548/24 "2010-02-11T17:34:57Z")

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Being able to tell the difference and being able to define it are two different things.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-shopping-in-your-pyjamas-what-do-you-think/528548/25 "2010-02-11T17:44:21Z")

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> [@Antigen](#):
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> you get websites like “[People of WalMart](http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/)”

I’ve said this before, but never quite so literally; I do not need the imagery!

Stranger

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-shopping-in-your-pyjamas-what-do-you-think/528548/26 "2010-02-11T17:44:58Z")

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I recently told a shirtless (male) customer to leave my place of business. He argued that there was no signage warning that he had to have a shirt. I explained (slowly and in monosyllabic language) that I had never thought there was a need.

I never go out in PJs, so Tesco’s decision doesn’t affect me. On the other hand, it _would_ improve my shopping experience. If Tesco ever opens a location near me, I will shop there!

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-shopping-in-your-pyjamas-what-do-you-think/528548/27 "2010-02-11T17:52:26Z")

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I see nothing wrong with shopping in your pajamas.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-shopping-in-your-pyjamas-what-do-you-think/528548/28 "2010-02-11T17:59:14Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> I recently told a shirtless (male) customer to leave my place of business. He argued that there was no signage warning that he had to have a shirt. I explained (slowly and in monosyllabic language) that I had never thought there was a need…

I used to work in a convenience _without_ a No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service policy (well we did require shoes). Corporate did _not_ want us to deny service to topless men (I never got a clear response regarding topless women). We also adjacent to a college campus. Sadly the shirtless college-aged guys tended either pull a t-shirt out of their pockets as they approached the door (or just stay outside while his friend goes in) and it was the fat middle-aged guys that never bothered to cover up. :smack: Rush Week was another story entirely.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-shopping-in-your-pyjamas-what-do-you-think/528548/29 "2010-02-11T18:10:09Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> None of that really stands up to objective reason though, does it?

Neither does the societal demand that we cover ourselves at all. As someone mentioned upthread, it’s like the difference between a swimsuit and underwear. You don’t wear your underwear to the pool.

Seriously, how hard is it to just put some pants on? Every time I see someone in pajama bottoms, you know I’m checking them for cheeto dust. I also wonder how someone to lazy to use a button or a zipper managed to get themselves to the supermarket anyway.

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**Author:** ![MitzeKatze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ad7895/32.png) [@MitzeKatze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MitzeKatze)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-shopping-in-your-pyjamas-what-do-you-think/528548/30 "2010-02-11T18:13:06Z")

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> [@DocCathode](#):
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> I see nothing wrong with shopping in your pajamas.

Nor is there anything “wrong” with shopping in your speedo or your underthings…as long as everything is appropriately covered, it’s all good, right?

The banning of pajamas or of swimwear, or of partial nudity is more a matter of taste than something that has an objective reason behind it. Sure, pajama-wearing hurts no one, but it does give a certain impression or look that some businesses do not want for their establishment.

It’s that simple really, and it is the whole reason some clothing is “acceptable” and some is not. Appearance counts whether we (general) want it to or think it should or not.  
ETA: I seem to have mostly repeated the response above, so sorry. The preview button failed me again. 😉

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-shopping-in-your-pyjamas-what-do-you-think/528548/31 "2010-02-11T18:16:19Z")

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> [@MitzeKatze](#):
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> Nor is there anything “wrong” with shopping in your speedo or your underthings…as long as everything is appropriately covered, it’s all good, right?

I agree. I see nothing wrong with shopping in speedos or underwear.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-shopping-in-your-pyjamas-what-do-you-think/528548/32 "2010-02-11T18:20:03Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> (I never got a clear response regarding topless women).

They drink for free, right? Well that’s the policy of [The Sunset Beach Bar](http://www.sunsetbeachbar.com/) in St Martin. Surprisingly, relatively few women take them up on the offer.

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**Author:** ![MitzeKatze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ad7895/32.png) [@MitzeKatze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MitzeKatze)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-shopping-in-your-pyjamas-what-do-you-think/528548/33 "2010-02-11T18:22:00Z")

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> [@DocCathode](#):
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> I agree. I see nothing wrong with shopping in speedos or underwear.

Exactly! That’s why we need rules on what is and isn’t allowed. I imagine that many people would have no problem with shopping in their speedo, but most of us don’t want to see that…so businesses cater to the majority’s sensibilities (or their own) and ask that their clientele to dress appropriately.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-shopping-in-your-pyjamas-what-do-you-think/528548/34 "2010-02-11T18:24:39Z")

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> [@DocCathode](#):
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> I agree. I see nothing wrong with shopping in speedos or underwear.

If you’re not kidding, congratulations… you’re that kid who spoils it for everyone.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-shopping-in-your-pyjamas-what-do-you-think/528548/35 "2010-02-11T18:26:47Z")

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What exactly is “it” and how exactly have I spoiled “it” for everyone?

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-shopping-in-your-pyjamas-what-do-you-think/528548/36 "2010-02-11T18:35:32Z")

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The world needs an overabundance of rules because some people are too socially retarded to be left to their own devices.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-shopping-in-your-pyjamas-what-do-you-think/528548/37 "2010-02-11T18:40:33Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> The world needs an overabundance of rules

No, it doesn’t.

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> because some people are too socially retarded to be left to their own devices.

Just because I disagree with the reasoning for many rules and customs and desire a great degree of personal freedom for myself and all other people does not make me “socially retarded”.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-shopping-in-your-pyjamas-what-do-you-think/528548/38 "2010-02-11T18:44:41Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> They’re open 24 hours a day. What sort of people do you think are buying groceries at 3am?

ME!

Although I can count on one hand the number of times I’ve done it in my pajamas.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-shopping-in-your-pyjamas-what-do-you-think/528548/39 "2010-02-11T18:54:23Z")

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I did full-on grocery shopping for the week in the wee hours of the morning when I was a college student, and I figured out how to put real clothes on to do it.

As for shopping while wearing Speedos? Someone’s ruining someone else’s **appetite** if they do that. Speedos belong solely on superhuman athletes with low-single-digits body fat percentages, in a pool, and not out in public. They’re not meant for mere humans.

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2010, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-shopping-in-your-pyjamas-what-do-you-think/528548/40 "2010-02-11T18:54:51Z")

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I can see wearing pajamas if it’s 3 a.m. and it’s an emergency run for diapers/formula/Tampax/whatever else you need _right this minute_. I can’t see wearing pajamas to the store at any other time, for any other reason.

I mean, if you can’t be arsed to put on a pair of sweats or jeans or whatever, then that’s your problem.

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