# No more Taps at Funerals **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 4, 2012, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-taps-at-funerals/633608 "2012-09-04T02:38:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-taps-at-funerals/633608/41 "2012-09-05T03:52:17Z")
> [@Lucretia](#): > > No baby, it ain’t… we had a mp3 player inside the bugle that the “bugler” inobtrusively switched on as he/she held it to their lips… An _mp3_? Come on, fellow patriots, these are our fallen comrades-in-arms. Do we really want to send them off with anything less than an Ogg Vorbis file? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-taps-at-funerals/633608/42 "2012-09-05T06:15:16Z")
> [@Sudden\_Kestrel](#): > > It is my opinion that bagpipers sound exactly like mimes being electrocuted… A _banshee_ having an asthma attack. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-taps-at-funerals/633608/43 "2012-09-05T07:02:24Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > It is said that the Irish gave the Scots the bagpipes over a thousand years ago, and the Scots never caught on. I suspect you have been misled. Irish pipes sound distinctly different from Scottish pipes. Seems obvious to me that the Scots captured a set of Irish pipes, puzzled over them for a while, then at last figured out how to turn them into a deadly weapon. You see, Erin is a pleasant, snakeless land with hounds and sheep frolicking across green, rolling hills whilst Scotland is a rocky, severe place inhabited by pre-cambrian monsters and Picts gnawing on bundles of offal, their pipes should reflect their disparate heritages. And the Scottish pipes are handy for clearing the public house at last call. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-taps-at-funerals/633608/44 "2012-09-05T13:06:50Z")
This pitting is about 3 years too late. When I was looking for a bugle for my son to play in Boy Scouts, it was already contraversial that they were putting a playback device in trumpets that simulated the playing of Taps. Oh and it took my son about a month to get Taps down really well. Like he could play at funerals. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-taps-at-funerals/633608/45 "2012-09-05T13:40:38Z")
And that’s another thing. It is true the US has allowed so many soldiers to die that has not been able to properly burry them for a number of years. That is shocking, but add to that the few volunteer groups to provide color guards. My (US) local American Legion post does not have one. When my dad died we gave them a nice check to help them get their stuff together. As someone upstream said, “Put me down for ‘who gives a shit?’” ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-taps-at-funerals/633608/46 "2012-09-05T15:19:12Z")
> [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](#): > > Wow, it’s already Romney’s fault, and he hasn’t even been elected yet. Which auto plant closed this time? ---
**Author:** ![carlb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carlb/32/5930_2.png) [@carlb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carlb)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-taps-at-funerals/633608/47 "2012-09-05T16:45:27Z")
FWIW, there’s at least one organization trying to take up the slack. [Bugles Across America](http://www.buglesacrossamerica.org/Home.aspx) has been around since 2000, so this is by no means a new phenomenon. I suspect there are other similar organizations elsewhere in the US. I am not affiliated with the above organization in any way, other than knowing a couple of members. It is nice to see some people jumping in to provide a bit of the “human touch,” though. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-taps-at-funerals/633608/48 "2012-09-06T02:11:02Z")
I could seriously get behind that. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-taps-at-funerals/633608/49 "2012-09-06T09:27:37Z")
> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#): > > I could seriously get behind that. You know what? Screw you. You haven’t answered for your bullshit OP. If there is one thing I hate, it is bullshit OP’s desperately grabbing for a political point. I need you to explain how this relates to people crying about “class warfare”, or “socialism”, or Romney’s “discount coffins”. You can’t explain your OP, because you are full of shit. It’s just grasping for crap, and I HATE bad arguments. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-taps-at-funerals/633608/50 "2012-09-06T12:02:15Z")
I am sorry I offended you. What I meant to say was Mitt Romney is part of a chicken-hawk ruling class who never raised a son man enough to put on his country’s uniform. He is a genuine American overlord whose money and dancing horse vacations overseas while the nation of his birth suffers from the bets he and his buddies raped the economy. The connection between Romney and the soldiers who have died in America’s service was, I admit weak. He after all has never missed lunch to serve others and under his “Objectivist” philosophy considers soldiers and most other people to be 'moochers." I am sorry if I was unclear in the OP and regret any misunderstanding. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-taps-at-funerals/633608/51 "2012-09-06T12:26:04Z")
> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#): > > And that’s another thing. It is true the US has allowed so many soldiers to die that has not been able to properly burry them for a number of years. That is shocking, but add to that the few volunteer groups to provide color guards. My (US) local American Legion post does not have one. When my dad died we gave them a nice check to help them get their stuff together. > > As someone upstream said, “Put me down for ‘who gives a shit?’” That is total bullshit. I have lost friends and family in the current conflict. But it is total bullshit to say that the large number of funerals are due to the US allowing so many soldiers to die. The vast majority of funerals are for veterans of WWII and Korea that are dying off rapidly. Active duty deaths are given a full military funeral. The dedicated funeral details usually provided by state National Guard units are stretched thin. Veterans groups take up the slack. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-taps-at-funerals/633608/52 "2012-09-06T12:27:31Z")
> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#): > > The connection between Romney and the soldiers who have died in America’s service was, I admit weak. Ya think?! Dude, You are the fucking ckickenhawk here. You are trying to use fucking _funerals for veterans_ to disguise your political displeasure. That’s a chickenhawk. Screw you. I’m no fan of Romney. I’m voting for Obama just like I did last time, but you are a piece of shit if you think anybody’s going to buy you “American Overlord” crap. Screw you. Just, because I can’t say “fuck” - screw you. This isn’t about TAPS for you, is it? ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-taps-at-funerals/633608/53 "2012-09-06T12:36:26Z")
I have a couple hundred jumps while an airborne infantry officer. You? Mittens? (Really? We cannot say the F-word in The Pit?) ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-taps-at-funerals/633608/54 "2012-09-06T12:44:29Z")
> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#): > > ( F-word in The Pit?) Unfortunately, no. (Take it up with fucking Ed). The language restrictions say that you can’t say “fuck you” to another poster, but you can use the word “fuck”. I can say “fucking **Ed** ”, but I can’t say “fuck you, **Ed** ”. No, it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me, either. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-taps-at-funerals/633608/55 "2012-09-06T12:46:41Z")
And don’t talk to me about how many jumps you did. I don’t care. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-taps-at-funerals/633608/56 "2012-09-06T12:49:50Z")
Well, we have established that, now haven’t we? ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-taps-at-funerals/633608/57 "2012-09-06T12:59:18Z")
We’ve established that it was never about the bugles. You fucking piece of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-taps-at-funerals/633608/58 "2012-09-06T15:25:01Z")
> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#): > > his “Objectivist” philosophy considers soldiers and most other people to be 'moochers." WTF are you rambling about here? You wouldn’t happen to have anything even remotely substantial evidence for this assertion that Romney considers soldiers to be moochers, would you? I’m wondering now what happened to you recently. This thread is really off-the-wall compared to what I remember of your postings. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-taps-at-funerals/633608/59 "2012-09-06T15:39:49Z")
I suppose I am upset at the recent death … not that it matters. I started this thread as a little RO on my own part and deeply and truly regret if I have upset anyone. (Or at least upset them beyond the ordinary discourse in The Pit.) I propose to give it a rest. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-taps-at-funerals/633608/60 "2012-09-06T15:49:27Z")
Well, people get upset in the Pit. That’s kind of the place for it, after all. What I’m wondering is what I posted just above. Care to answer that bit about your assertion about Romney considering soldiers to be moochers before you “give it a rest”? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-taps-at-funerals/633608.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-taps-at-funerals/633608.md?page=4)