# No more trips there: a drastic decision (a wise one?)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 22, 2016, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013 "2016-06-22T03:23:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/81 "2016-06-24T16:51:58Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> Is there? I have a Samsung 5. Let me know when you find the button. 🙂

And how do you expect him to do that? The buttons are not well marked.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/82 "2016-06-24T16:52:31Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> Anyway . . . in every car I’ve ever driven, I could figure out the climate controls by just looking. Cars are designed to be driven by morons; everything is made as easy as possible. This isn’t rocket surgery.

That’s good. If OP can’t find the unlabeled AC button, then this just proves he _isn’t_ a moron. Sometimes, one simply has to NOT be a rocket surgeon.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/83 "2016-06-24T22:52:54Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> I’m 70, with a heart condition, spinal stenosis, diabetic neuropathy and PAD. And until I get a new car, I’m driving one without A/C. But you won’t hear me whine like a big baby about driving 120 miles in the heat. Man up.

Panache, I don’t think you’re a masochist, and neither am I.  
“Doctor, it hurts when I do this.”  
“Then don’t do that!”

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**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/84 "2016-06-24T23:58:55Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> There is one rocker switch I’m still stumped about, so I emailed the seller. She owned the boat for six years, but never figured out what that switch does either.

It’s Dougie’s AC.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/85 "2016-06-25T05:14:11Z")

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You’re about as entertaining as one wrestler.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/86 "2016-06-25T12:21:35Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> You’re about as entertaining as one wrestler.

Isn’t that one-armed wrestler? Maybe not, that’d be entertaining.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/87 "2016-06-25T17:49:36Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> You’re about as entertaining as one wrestler.

Your…attempted insult? comment? snark? makes no sense. FYI.

But you still haven’t answered why, in however may years of owning that car, you still haven’t spent 10 minutes just pushing buttons until you get cold air. It’s really not all that tricky to just push buttons until air=cold.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/88 "2016-06-25T17:54:05Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> Now, I have heard of Skype…what is it, anyway?

Skype is a little tweeting bird chirping in meadow. Skype is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad.

I’m pretty sure Mr. Spock said that.

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**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/89 "2016-06-25T18:47:48Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> But you still haven’t answered why, in however may years of owning that car, you still haven’t spent 10 minutes just pushing buttons until you get cold air. It’s really not all that tricky to just push buttons until air=cold.

If the air conditioner is busted, it doesn’t matter how many buttons you push, you won’t get any cold air.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/90 "2016-06-25T21:34:06Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> You’re about as entertaining as one wrestler.

> [@Fenris](#):
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> Your…attempted insult? comment? snark? makes no sense. FYI.

Ten [del]bucks[/DEL] quatloos says he heard Jack Webb deliver that line, and he’s been looking for a chance to use it ever since.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/91 "2016-06-25T21:51:44Z")

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I dunno, I find the prospect of one wrestler profoundly uninteresting.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/92 "2016-06-25T22:58:54Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> I dunno, I find the prospect of one wrestler profoundly uninteresting.

Even Hulk Hogan?

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/93 "2016-06-26T00:19:04Z")

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You who heckle me are not amusing…  
What I might want to see is a one-armed paperhanger who has the hives.

Metrolink sent me a schedule for rail service in the Los Angeles area…  
Just confirms what I had already observed–no connecting trains from Orange to Norwalk until late afternoon. ☹

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/94 "2016-06-26T00:50:47Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Even Hulk Hogan?

Meh. Ever since we lost Gorgeous George, I can’t say I find any pro wrestler to be real interesting.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/95 "2016-06-26T04:26:10Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> You who heckle me are not amusing…  
> What I might want to see is a one-armed paperhanger who has the hives.

What is your fixation with handicapped people in uncomfortable situations?

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/96 "2016-06-26T04:38:58Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> What is your fixation with handicapped people in uncomfortable situations?

:Sigh: that’s one of the oldest jokes in the books…:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/97 "2016-06-26T13:56:07Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> What I might want to see is a one-armed paperhanger who has the hives.

My Uncle James (_never_ Jim or Jimmy) left one of his arms in France, where he also lost an eye. He was there, voluntarily, helping to secure freedom so that fools like you could make stupid jokes. He returned to the US to his carpentry job (paperhanging would likely have been impossible with only one arm, urticaria not withstanding).

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**Author:** ![DorkVader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@DorkVader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DorkVader)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/98 "2016-06-26T16:48:30Z")

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> [@bobkitty](#):
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> Has anyone ever seen the OP and CCitizen in the same place at the same time?

the more I read this thread (not a particular follower of dougie) the more I was thinking along the same lines

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/99 "2016-06-26T19:01:07Z")

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I knew that the paperhanger cliché appeared in my Ripley book. I looked. Sure enough, it was there–on Page 215. (Original publication date, 1931). The man, named Albert J. Smith, lived in Dedham, Massachusetts. (In the large double volume published in 1946 it appears on Page 164.)  
In any case, this was a cliché before I was born.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/100 "2016-06-26T20:37:55Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> I knew that the paperhanger cliché appeared in my Ripley book. I looked. Sure enough, it was there–on Page 215. (Original publication date, 1931). The man, named Albert J. Smith, lived in Dedham, Massachusetts. (In the large double volume published in 1946 it appears on Page 164.)  
> In any case, this was a cliché before I was born.

Which is a pretty obvious reason not to use it. Most of the people who would’ve recognized the cliché are dead now. I’m in my 60s and I never heard it, and if I did, I would’ve asked “What does that have to do with _anything_ we’re talking about?”

Handy advice for Dougie (but really anyone): Pause and ask yourself “Will what I’m saying make sense to this audience, and does it apply to this topic?” The paperhanger\* line fails on both counts, so is there a downside to pausing, thinking it over, and saying what you’re trying to another way?  
\*I had to google “paperhanger”… are there really people who only paste wallpaper? Maybe not, which would explain why it’s an obscure word.

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