# No more trips there: a drastic decision (a wise one?) **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 22, 2016, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013 "2016-06-22T03:23:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/101 "2016-06-27T04:06:38Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > Panache, I don’t think you’re a masochist, and neither am I. > “Doctor, it hurts when I do this.” > “Then don’t do that!” It’s not a truth, it’s a joke. Because when you continuously restrict yourself from activities that cause pain, rather than find the cause and fix it, is how you become disabled permanently. My parents are in their 70’s. They make 7 hour trips to their lake house at least a couple times a month. They also visit me in the city, and other family members, in trips that are more than an hour each way. No issues. Dad’s got two fused cervical vertebrae and a transplanted kidney and diabetes, needs both knees replaced, and does most of the driving. The more you become inactive, the more it will hurt to move, and the more debilitated you will become. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/102 "2016-06-27T04:41:45Z")
However, I found an unusual aspect of paperhanging in one of Don Aslett’s books. The famed cleaning authority claims that the best way to test whether a relationship between two people will last, is to put them to work hanging wallpaper. A relationship that can survive that will survive anything. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/103 "2016-06-27T06:10:49Z")
I imagine you can get a fair number of paperhanging gigs yourself in Riverside. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/104 "2016-06-27T15:35:51Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > :Sigh: that’s one of the oldest jokes in the books…:rolleyes: Not as old as: “Looketh over there.” “Madest thou look.” 😛 > [@dougie\_monty](#): > > one of Don Aslett’s books. Who? > [@](#): > > The famed cleaning authority claims that the best way to test whether a relationship between two people will last, is to put them to work hanging wallpaper. A relationship that can survive that will survive anything. Did your relationship survive a wallpaper hanging? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/105 "2016-06-27T17:50:33Z")
> [@August\_West](#): > > Just when I think **dougie** has hit his peak, I learn that he is willing to drive for over 4 hours in 100°+ heat without even _randomly_ pushing buttons to turn on the AC. > > 15 seconds of Googling informs me that the 1994 C280 came with “Automatic Climate Control” as a standard feature, which probably means all you have to do is set a temperature. Randomly mushing buttons? We’ll get a thread in a day or two about treacherous posters in SDMB hornswoggling this poor dude into turning on his heat in 100 degree weather. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/106 "2016-06-27T17:53:46Z")
There is no such thing as a “famed” cleaning authority… except the “Shamwow!” guy. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/107 "2016-06-27T20:00:39Z")
> [@digs](#): > > \*I had to google “paperhanger”… are there really people who only paste wallpaper? Maybe not, which would explain why it’s an obscure word. I’d learned “paperhanger” as a slang term for a counterfeiter or person who writes bad checks. So when I heard of it in the usage dougie is referencing, it made no sense. You can’t write bad checks with only one arm?? OTOH, we recently watched a 1960 episode of What’s My Line, and one of the guests was a ‘self-employed paperhanger’, so it must have been more common back in the day. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/108 "2016-06-27T20:53:48Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > I imagine you can get a fair number of paperhanging gigs yourself in Riverside. Not on your life. Unless I can ride in a someone else’s comfy, air-conditioned vehicle, and have plenty fringe benefits. Remember, I’m no spring chicken. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/109 "2016-06-27T20:57:47Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Not as old as: > > “Looketh over there.” > “Madest thou look.” > 😛 > > Who? > > Did your relationship survive a wallpaper hanging? The closest I’ve had to a “relationship” did not survive my refusal to participate in some fraudulent endeavors–an attempt she invited me to help her in, altering a Proof of Insurance paper for her car, and representing myself as a (token) tenant so she could move into a mobile-home park in the Moreno Valley which required that one member of each household be at least 55 years old (she was 48 at the time; I was 61). I haven’t seen here in more than three years. I don’t regret it.) ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/110 "2016-06-27T20:58:49Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Not as old as: > > “Looketh over there.” > “Madest thou look.” > 😛 > > Who? > > Did your relationship survive a wallpaper hanging? The closest thing I’ve had to a “relationship” did not survive my refusal to participate in some fraudulent endeavors–an attempt she invited me to help her in, altering a Proof of Insurance paper for her car, and representing myself as a (token) tenant so she could move into a mobile-home park in the Moreno Valley which required that one member of each household be at least 55 years old (she was 48 at the time; I was 61). I haven’t seen here in more than three years. I don’t regret it.) ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/111 "2016-06-27T21:00:36Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > […] You can’t write bad checks with only one arm?? Have you tried holding a pen in two hands?! ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/112 "2016-06-27T22:30:57Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > Thanks just the same, but: my own legal expertise is not so great that I am in a position to dictate as you suggest, to the lawyer; I don’t have that kind of chutzpah. The weather was not an issue last Thursday; it may just be the 120-mile round trips (I live in Gardena, in Los Angeles County) that put my system out of whack–I am 67. I used to live there, until the late 70’s. Gardena HS, etc. How is it today? ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/113 "2016-06-28T03:58:06Z")
Remember Maureen, whom I used to mention a lot in my posts? Her grandson Bert was approaching high-school age…he did not want to attend Gardena High. So Maureen and her son Bill and I were agreeable to home schooling and we made the arrangements. Bert, however, failed to keep his part of the agreement and “dropped out” of the home-schooling program. He’s past 18 now and I don’t know what he’s doing. Apparently Gardena High is not the kind of place kids like Bert want to go to. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/114 "2016-06-28T10:45:45Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > Remember Maureen, whom I used to mention a lot in my posts? Her grandson Bert was approaching high-school age…he did not want to attend Gardena High. So Maureen and her son Bill and I were agreeable to home schooling and we made the arrangements. Bert, however, failed to keep his part of the agreement and “dropped out” of the home-schooling program. He’s past 18 now and I don’t know what he’s doing. Apparently Gardena High is not the kind of place kids like Bert want to go to. Someone get dougie some water. He went to riverside again. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/115 "2016-06-28T21:23:49Z")
NOW who’s coming up with non sequiturs? (To quote Edwin Newman, “ask the sequitary.” 😃 ) ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/116 "2016-06-28T21:55:47Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > Remember Maureen, whom I used to mention a lot in my posts? Is she the one with the hot daughter? ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/117 "2016-06-29T02:54:10Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Someone get dougie some water. He went to riverside again. Down by the riverside, My car’s too hot but that daughter’s not. Down by the riverside… [/old negro spiritual] ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/118 "2016-06-29T04:20:28Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Is she the one with the hot daughter? Hardly. I never described her daughter Adelaide as “hot.” Run the name through the SDMB search engine and you’ll see. Ditto for her granddaughter Natalie. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/119 "2016-06-29T04:22:44Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Down by the riverside, > My car’s too hot but that daughter’s not. > Down by the riverside… > > [/old negro spiritual] Catchy. In fact _ **I** _ got hot; the car did not. For a 22-year-old car it performed remarkably well. All I had to do was add a little oil the next day. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013/120 "2016-06-29T10:21:33Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > Hardly. I never described her daughter Adelaide as “hot.” Run the name through the SDMB search engine and you’ll see. Ditto for her granddaughter Natalie. Natalie!, _that’s_ the temptress I recall. Ohhhh, Natalie! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trips-there-a-drastic-decision-a-wise-one/758013.md?page=7)