# No more Trump bombshells? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 4, 2016, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trump-bombshells/770635 "2016-11-04T19:27:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trump-bombshells/770635/1 "2016-11-04T19:27:52Z")
We were all waiting. Especially after Comey’s non-revelation about Clinton’s emails (which weren’t actually hers). Back around the last debate, after the “Grab 'em by the pussy” video, people (including me) were confidently predicting there would be a new story about some scandalous behavior by Trump every week until the election. “Someone has to have caught him saying the N-word on tape!” we all said. “Someone must be able to find a woman who’s abortion he paid for!” But nothing. Nada. Sure, there was the video of Trump trying to humiliate a woman by kissing her on stage, but even here that doesn’t seem to have gotten much traction. Is it just that nothing he did would actually surprise anyone now, and there is always a risk of rebound if it looks like Clinton is playing dirty? Has he really been that careful his whole life not to say racist slurs on camera (even though he said plenty of blatantly racist stuff on the record)? Has he really been that careful with birth control, despite being a very public philanderer who openly cheated on his various wives? ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trump-bombshells/770635/2 "2016-11-04T19:30:41Z")
I think if Hillary had any more oppo she would have released it by now. Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trump-bombshells/770635/3 "2016-11-04T20:11:21Z")
**WHOOPS!** [Giuliani brags about illegal FBI leaks to Trump campaign.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rudy-giuliani-fbi-clinton-emails_us_581c9e3fe4b0e80b02c93d6b) ---
**Author:** ![Neo-Calredic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/96bed5/32.png) [@Neo-Calredic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neo-Calredic)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trump-bombshells/770635/4 "2016-11-04T20:15:42Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > **WHOOPS!** > [Giuliani brags about illegal FBI leaks to Trump campaign.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rudy-giuliani-fbi-clinton-emails_us_581c9e3fe4b0e80b02c93d6b) Sadly, no one will care. They will give him a free pass on this just like they have on virtually everything else. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trump-bombshells/770635/5 "2016-11-04T20:26:02Z")
> [@Alan\_Smithee](#): > > Has he really been that careful his whole life not to say racist slurs on camera (even though he said plenty of blatantly racist stuff on the record)? There’s always the danger that a recording of a racist Trump diatribe could lead to him gaining _more_ support. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trump-bombshells/770635/6 "2016-11-04T20:39:02Z")
> [@Neo-Calredic](#): > > Sadly, no one will care. They will give him a free pass on this just like they have on virtually everything else. ☹ Yeah, if no one cares about his upcoming child-rape trial, they’re not going to care about a guy who didn’t even remember 9/11 happened. . ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trump-bombshells/770635/7 "2016-11-04T21:03:51Z")
> [@Alan\_Smithee](#): > > … Clinton’s emails (which weren’t actually hers). Cite? I’ve seen several people claim that none of the emails on Weiner’s laptop were from or to HRC, or some variation of that, but I haven’t seen any actual evidence that suggests that. Where is everyone getting this from? Or is it just a bit of ignorance that Dopers have collectively chosen to wallow in? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trump-bombshells/770635/8 "2016-11-04T21:05:02Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > I think if Hillary had any more oppo she would have released it by now. Her last bit, about the “Trump server with direct connection to Russia” was particularly weak. I think she’s been bled dry. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trump-bombshells/770635/9 "2016-11-04T21:24:17Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Cite? I’ve seen several people claim that none of the emails on Weiner’s laptop were from or to HRC, or some variation of that, but I haven’t seen any actual evidence that suggests that. Where is everyone getting this from? Or is it just a bit of ignorance that Dopers have collectively chosen to wallow in? There’s no actual evidence of anything at this point. There is a poorly worded letter to Republican committee leaders saying “We might know something about someone doing something, but we don’t know.” Since it’s been portrayed by some to mean Hillary Clinton is the greatest criminal in US Presidential candidate history with such little justification, is it not possible that there’s actually nothing there? As to Giuliani “knowing” this was coming - he’s full of shit. If there’s any shred of integrity left in the FBI, that windbag isn’t getting any actual information. On that note, I still think Comey hasn’t acted maliciously, just incredibly ignorantly. He’s made a variety of missteps on this entire investigation by trying to play it safe AND be transparent at the same time, while forgetting what climate he’s working in. ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trump-bombshells/770635/10 "2016-11-04T21:24:26Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Cite? I’ve seen several people claim that none of the emails on Weiner’s laptop were from or to HRC, or some variation of that, but I haven’t seen any actual evidence that suggests that. Where is everyone getting this from? Or is it just a bit of ignorance that Dopers have collectively chosen to wallow in? I have to admit that I don’t know where I picked up the disputed fact. In looking into the matter, it appears that [Comey’s letter](http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/10/28/us/politics/fbi-letter.html?_r=0) provided no details whatsoever on the emails, other than that they “appear to be pertinent to the investigation” of Clinton’s server. Anonymous sources cited by the NY Times apparently provided the information that the emails were found in the Wiener investigation, that they were on Wiener’s laptop, and that they belonged to Abedin (a Clinton aide and Wiener’s estranged wife). At first, I read this last statement as meaning they were sent between Abedin and Wiener, although I suppose it is possible that before they separated Abedin was using Wiener’s computer to send and receive emails with Clinton. So far, AFAICT, no one has actually claimed that to be the case. Some have suggested it is unclear. Others have implied none of the emails are to or from Clinton, but I think that is only based on the absence of evidence. I’m going to stand by my (largely rhetorical) statement in the OP, but I admit the evidence in favor of it is weak, and I stand prepared to [del]move the goalposts[/del] [del]walk it back carefully and change the subject[/del] retract it if it becomes necessary. ---
**Author:** ![Tzigone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Tzigone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tzigone)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trump-bombshells/770635/11 "2016-11-04T21:25:59Z")
> [@](#): > > Cite? I’ve seen several people claim that none of the emails on Weiner’s laptop were from or to HRC, or some variation of that, but I haven’t seen any actual evidence that suggests that. Where is everyone getting this from? Or is it just a bit of ignorance that Dopers have collectively chosen to wallow in? Oh, yeah, we’re just making up stuff because that’s how we roll. [FTR, there have been reports that none of the emails were to or from Clinton.](http://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-emails-fbi-comey-donald-trump-anthony-weiner-huma-abedin-514918) There has also been at lest one report that some were to Clinton from Abedin, but non confirmed from Clinton, but I can’t remember where I read that, and the Newsweek article linked said that while that computer had been used to send Clinton from Huma, those emails were not being examined. I don’t know how reliable either of these is, but people who say they aren’t to or from her aren’t “collectively wallowing in ignorance” - they’re repeating what news outlets have reported. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trump-bombshells/770635/12 "2016-11-04T21:27:53Z")
This should be very important as it demonstrates how harmful bad ignorance at higher levels can be: [https://thinkprogress.org/trump-zero-out-federal-clean-energy-56cca794790#.nwjhh35mp](https://thinkprogress.org/trump-zero-out-federal-clean-energy-56cca794790#.nwjhh35mp) > [@](#): > > **Trump just proposed ending all federal clean energy development > He’d end all research on solar, wind, efficiency, batteries, clean cars, and climate science, too.** > [@](#): > > You may have missed this bombshell because team Trump did not spell out these cuts overtly. In a campaign where the media has “utterly failed to convey the policy stakes in the election,” as Vox’s Matt Yglesias explained recently, it appears only [Bloomberg BNA](http://www.bna.com/trump-says-plan-n57982082131/)bothered to follow up with the campaign to get at the truth of Trump’s radical proposal. > > Polling guru Nate Silver of [fivethirtyeight.com](http://fivethirtyeight.com) fame gives Trump a one in three chance of becoming president. So I agree with Yglesias that we ought to seriously look at the implications of Trump’s proposals — especially since if Trump wins, he’s all but certain to have a GOP-controlled Congress to back him. > [@](#): > > You may consider it unlikely Trump would follow through, but I was at the U.S. Department of Energy working on clean energy when the GOP took back the House in 1995, led by Newt Gingrich. The House GOP had pledged to zero out all clean energy development and deployment programs — and they succeeded in slashing the budget for all the deployment programs. > > The only thing that stopped them from gutting clean energy research and development was a huge push-back by the administration of President Clinton. The more things change, the more they remain the same. ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trump-bombshells/770635/13 "2016-11-04T21:27:53Z")
I used to listen to the Howard Stern show back in the day, and Trump was a frequent guest who always said raunchy things. But sadly Howard Stern is refusing to release the tapes. But I’m with you OP, surely there is more out there. Where the hell are they?? ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trump-bombshells/770635/14 "2016-11-04T21:38:48Z")
> [@Tzigone](#): > > Oh, yeah, we’re just making up stuff because that’s how we roll. > > [FTR, there have been reports that none of the emails were to or from Clinton.](http://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-emails-fbi-comey-donald-trump-anthony-weiner-huma-abedin-514918) > > There has also been at lest one report that some were to Clinton from Abedin, but non confirmed from Clinton, but I can’t remember where I read that, and the Newsweek article linked said that while that computer had been used to send Clinton from Huma, those emails were not being examined. > > I don’t know how reliable either of these is, but people who say they aren’t to or from her aren’t “collectively wallowing in ignorance” - they’re repeating what news outlets have reported. Thanks, **Tzigone**. That article has much more detail than I had found. I appreciate the call for the cite, though. I wasn’t practicing good epistemological hygiene by repeating something without knowing the source. Fortunately, I tend to pick secondary (or tertiary) sources like the SDMB, where false statements rarely go unchallenged, and so can be relied upon without too much checking. but that’s only because people like **HurricaneDitka** do what he did in keeping us all honest. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trump-bombshells/770635/15 "2016-11-04T22:54:34Z")
> [@](#): > > …I’ve seen several people claim that none of the emails on Weiner’s laptop were from or to HRC, or some variation of that, but I haven’t seen any actual evidence that suggests that… Clinton e-mails is a specific. There may be any number of things on that laptop, my current understanding is that it goes back all the way to the beginnings of Weiners political efforts. It likely has a whole bunch of different things. It may have evidence that Ms Clinton was on Team Sarah and Ms Abedin, Team Angelina. There may be some juicy gossip. There may be recipes. Because there is a bunch of room for things to be in. But to claim that a specific thing must be there, just because there is so much room for it to be there…that does not follow. In the words of the great political thinker, Sportin’ Life, it ain’t necessarily so. You don’t need evidence that something is not in the big black bag. You need evidence that something is. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trump-bombshells/770635/16 "2016-11-06T01:01:36Z")
There has to be something monday. And i don’t mean clean energy stuff, lol wow. There has to be an n-word tape. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trump-bombshells/770635/17 "2016-11-06T01:03:59Z")
Well, the woman accusing Trump of rape when she was 13 has dropped the lawsuit. Seems she wants to stay alive. (She’s been getting threats.) ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trump-bombshells/770635/18 "2016-11-06T01:06:36Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Well, the woman accusing Trump of rape when she was 13 has dropped the lawsuit. > > Seems she wants to stay alive. (She’s been getting threats.) Yup. She dropped the lawsuit after she was going to hold a press conference with her lawyer but called it off due to death threats. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trump-bombshells/770635/19 "2016-11-06T01:09:32Z")
You think death threats, or a big enough bribe from the Trump Camp to keep her in luxury until she’s 113? ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trump-bombshells/770635/20 "2016-11-06T01:19:17Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > You think death threats, or a big enough bribe from the Trump Camp to keep her in luxury until she’s 113? Probably… but with Trump allowed “Droit du Seigneur” with all her female descendants once they turn 10. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-more-trump-bombshells/770635.md?page=2)