# No, No, No! (November rantings)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-no-november-rantings/800385>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 1, 2017, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-no-november-rantings/800385 "2017-11-01T14:48:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kelevra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@Kelevra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kelevra)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2017, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-no-november-rantings/800385/41 "2017-11-03T19:55:26Z")

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> [@Kimballkid](#):
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> I don’t think you’re living up to your user name. I didn’t comprehend anything you are trying to say.

Can I get an AMEN brother!

Or am I being a religious fanatic by saying that?

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-no-november-rantings/800385/42 "2017-11-03T21:42:30Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> – darn, where’s that “Sad Getting-Stuffed-In-An-Oven Emoji”?)

Is this supposed to be funny? I guess I’m just a humorless old man, but for me it strikes a very uncomfortable and inappropriate note.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2017, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-no-november-rantings/800385/43 "2017-11-03T21:55:13Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Is this supposed to be funny? I guess I’m just a humorless old man, but for me it strikes a very uncomfortable and inappropriate note.

Sorry to be insensitive, I’m just used to hearing holocaust jokes from my friends (actually, they’re mostly Jewish, come to think of it – I play poker with a bunch of Woody Allen types).

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2017, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-no-november-rantings/800385/44 "2017-11-03T22:42:35Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Sorry to be insensitive, I’m just used to hearing holocaust jokes from my friends (actually, they’re mostly Jewish, come to think of it – I play poker with a bunch of Woody Allen types).

I hear what you’re saying. For me, context is important. I suppose this is kind of like the N word for black people - they can use it because it has been used against them to such horrible effect for so long. By that standard, I would feel very different hearing your remark from a Jewish person than even from someone who has a lot of Jewish friends.

However, I have no desire to be the humor police. I just felt like I needed to check my reaction to see if I was that far out of touch.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2017, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-no-november-rantings/800385/45 "2017-11-04T02:23:13Z")

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I pit whoever decided that the “My Documents” folder should become the “Random Gaming Junk Drawer”.

It was bad enough when games were at least putting their stuff into the “My Games” folder. That was technically a subfolder of “Documents” but at least it was easy to exclude that one folder from a sync profile (although notably, Microsoft’s own sync tools always made that a headache. Naturally.) But now it’s just a free for all, with every game I own putting randomly named folders all over the place - some of them still use My Games, so of course there’s no deleting it now - but most of them have folders under their company name, some under the individual game name, some foolhardy souls just have random save folders named a variant of “Saved Games”. It’s chaos! Oh - and some poor bastards are _also_ putting their info under AppData, which is where this mess really belongs.

It makes backing up the Documents folder a complete nightmare. I’ve had to create a whole separate subfolder that is strictly for actual, you know, Documents. The name on the tin. Which means I can’t use OneDrive as it’s intended. Well, I mean, I could, if I wanted to clutter up their online storage. Which why the hell not. This mess is their fault for not enforcing standards.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2017, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-no-november-rantings/800385/46 "2017-11-04T04:37:25Z")

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Look, I’m not going to read some absurd number of tweets. I doubt anyone is really going to read 40+ tweets on some subject. Take whatever the hell it is you’re tweeting about, write it as two paragraphs, and then go post it on a blog somewhere. You’re supposed to be a journalist, so try to write like one who doesn’t have the attention span of a gnat.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2017, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-no-november-rantings/800385/47 "2017-11-04T04:55:43Z")

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I second the motion!

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2017, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-no-november-rantings/800385/48 "2017-11-04T05:01:18Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> I second the motion!

I mean, imagine if your boss said “Hey, I need a written update on \<project\>” and you sent 40 short instant messages to your boss as your update instead of taking the time to write it in the body of an email (or in Word or something if applicable). I don’t think you’d keep working there very long.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2017, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-no-november-rantings/800385/49 "2017-11-04T08:21:51Z")

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Aaacckk! We had record warm temp. In so. Ark. today, 87°. Guess what went out, no not the A.C., My less than 1 yr.old fancy-assed and over-the-top priced Refrigerator, with lovely French drawer freezer and small door just for drinks and snacks. With the unsmudgable charcoal finsh. It hotter inside the fridge than in the kitchen. Of course no one will be here til monday, and I really think they will have to replace it. That means I will have to wait extra days, aaacckkk! Why me ? Oh yeah, I just spent $120.00 on groceries yesterday!

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**Author:** ![Jennshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Jennshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennshark)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2017, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-no-november-rantings/800385/50 "2017-11-04T11:15:16Z")

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The weather in the Northeast. It can’t decide if it’s fall and 53 degrees or June and 78. Just decide already.

I’ve had a weather sinus headache for a frickin month.

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2017, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-no-november-rantings/800385/51 "2017-11-04T12:56:29Z")

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I just bless every extra 70+ day. Hey, cancel winter entirely, I’m okay with that.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2017, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-no-november-rantings/800385/52 "2017-11-04T17:29:08Z")

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> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> I just bless every extra 70+ day. Hey, cancel winter entirely, I’m okay with that.

Yeah, when your climate has sucked for decades, it’s hard not to secretly think “Well, how bad could a change of climate in the Arctic of America be…?”

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2017, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-no-november-rantings/800385/53 "2017-11-04T19:26:21Z")

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Mini rant: people who misuse words. Somebody described a person who is undergoing an ordeal as a “trooper.” WRONG!!! They are not patrolling the highways while wearing a Smokey the Bear hat. The word they’re looking for is “trouper.”

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-no-november-rantings/800385/54 "2017-11-04T22:49:37Z")

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Came home today to find a box on my porch. Yay? I open it, and inside is an iPad that I definitely did not order. Some asshole used my credit card to ship an iPad to my house. WTF kind of scam is this??? Apple was good with generating the return labels since the purchase didn’t appear on my Apple account, but the damn labels are still linked to the account used to make the purchase, so I’m on hold again trying to get the return label. :mad:

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2017, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-no-november-rantings/800385/55 "2017-11-04T23:31:23Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Mini rant: people who misuse words. Somebody described a person who is undergoing an ordeal as a “trooper.” WRONG!!! They are not patrolling the highways while wearing a Smokey the Bear hat. The word they’re looking for is “trouper.”

That makes no sense. A “trouper” is a member of an acting troupe. What does that have to do with undergoing an ordeal?

I always understood the metaphorical use of the word “trooper” to be related to the fact that army troops have to undergo really terrible situations in war and just keep going anyway.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2017, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-no-november-rantings/800385/56 "2017-11-04T23:43:37Z")

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> [@Rysto](#):
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> That makes no sense. A “trouper” is a member of an acting troupe. What does that have to do with undergoing an ordeal?
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> I always understood the metaphorical use of the word “trooper” to be related to the fact that army troops have to undergo really terrible situations in war and just keep going anyway.

troup·er

/ˈtro͞opər/

noun: trouper; plural noun: troupers

1. an actor or other entertainer, typically one with long experience.

2. a reliable and uncomplaining person.  
“a real trouper, Ma concealed her troubles”

So in my opinion the word “trouper” would be used to refer to someone who is not only enduring difficulties but is doing so while attending to their duties and without complaining. I don’t believe “trooper” is used to refer to any member of the armed forces, except perhaps a cavalry member back when they used horses.

Let it be known that this is not a hill on which I wish to endure any difficulty.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-no-november-rantings/800385/57 "2017-11-05T00:54:11Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> troup·er
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> /ˈtro͞opər/
> 
> noun: trouper; plural noun: troupers
> 
> 1. an actor or other entertainer, typically one with long experience.
> 
> 2. a reliable and uncomplaining person.  
> “a real trouper, Ma concealed her troubles”
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> So in my opinion the word “trouper” would be used to refer to someone who is not only enduring difficulties but is doing so while attending to their duties and without complaining. I don’t believe “trooper” is used to refer to any member of the armed forces, except perhaps a cavalry member back when they used horses.
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> Let it be known that this is not a hill on which I wish to endure any difficulty.

Right. The person I noticed using the word “trooper” was referring to his wife who had to undergo a dental procedure and endured it without complaint. That is indeed the definition of a trouper.

Definition of trooper

1 a (1) :an enlisted cavalryman (2) :the horse of a cavalryman  
b :paratrooper  
c :soldier  
2 a :a mounted police officer  
b :a state police officer

> **[Definition of TROOPER](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/trooper)**
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> an enlisted cavalryman; the horse of a cavalryman; paratrooper… See the full definition

Definition of trouper

1 :a member of a troupe; especially :actor  
2 :a person who deals with and persists through difficulty or hardship without complaint  
⚫you’re a real _trouper_ to wait so long

> **[Definition of TROUPER](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/trouper)**
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> a member of a troupe; especially : actor; a person who deals with and persists through difficulty or hardship without complaint… See the full definition

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**Author:** ![ENugent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4af34b/32.png) [@ENugent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ENugent)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-no-november-rantings/800385/58 "2017-11-05T03:52:09Z")

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> [@Rysto](#):
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> That makes no sense. A “trouper” is a member of an acting troupe. What does that have to do with undergoing an ordeal?

I’ve always understood it to be someone who puts the troupe ahead of themselves, as in the aphorism that “the show must go on” - uncomplainingly doing what is needed for others.

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-no-november-rantings/800385/59 "2017-11-05T07:35:58Z")

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> [@WolfpackJeep](#):
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> Came home today to find a box on my porch. Yay? I open it, and inside is an iPad that I definitely did not order. Some asshole used my credit card to ship an iPad to my house. WTF kind of scam is this??? Apple was good with generating the return labels since the purchase didn’t appear on my Apple account, but the damn labels are still linked to the account used to make the purchase, so I’m on hold again trying to get the return label. :mad:

they were unlucky what should of happened was someone would of picked up the package when you weren’t there

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-no-november-rantings/800385/60 "2017-11-05T07:41:57Z")

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Apple should let you keep it for free. It’s probably more hassle to have you return it and remove it from your account and put it back in stock. Just saying…

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