# No, no -- of course we didn't name our product after that famous thing!

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**Created:** [March 29, 2019, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-of-course-we-didnt-name-our-product-after-that-famous-thing/831711 "2019-03-29T12:32:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\
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Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds.

> [@wikipedia](#):
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> John Lennon said that his inspiration for the song came when his three-year-old son Julian showed him a nursery school drawing that he called “Lucy – in the Sky with Diamonds”, depicting his classmate Lucy O’Donnell.

uh huh. sure he did… and Lucy O’Donnell had kaleidoscope eyes and liked marmalade skies, right?

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> [@AHunter3](#):
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> Lucy O’Donnell had kaleidoscope eyes and liked marmalade skies, right?

John was also inspired by _Through the Looking Glass_, primarily [chapter 5](https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/through-the-looking-glass/section5/).

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-of-course-we-didnt-name-our-product-after-that-famous-thing/831711/23 "2019-04-10T21:02:52Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> I have to admit that I’m often suspicious of bands disclaiming reasons for their names. **r.e.M.** claimed that their name didn’t come from the abbreviation for “Rapid Eye Movement”, although they never did say what it meant. From the writeup in Wikipedia it appears they got it from a random stab in a dictionary, which would, indeed, have been the acronym for “Rapid Eye Movement”.

I am sometimes suspicious as well, the best example I can think of was that Panic! at the Disco claimed to _not_ have been named after the Smiths song _Panic_ in which the singer exhorts one to “Hang the DJ”.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-of-course-we-didnt-name-our-product-after-that-famous-thing/831711/24 "2019-04-11T01:48:22Z")

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**CalMeacham @#8:**. Don’t forget the twin Bubbles Mountains in Acadia National Park, Mount Desert Island, Maine.

Supposedly named after some NYC/Bar Harbor 19th century plutocrat’s mistress’s bazongas.

> **[Bubble Mountains - Acadia National Park Maine](https://acadiamagic.com/bubble-mtns-01.html)**
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> The Bubble Mountains, North and South, can be seen from the shores of Jordan Pond in Acadia National Park on Mount Desert Island, Maine.

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**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-of-course-we-didnt-name-our-product-after-that-famous-thing/831711/25 "2019-04-11T03:27:34Z")

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I live near Popple Dungeon Road. It’s been there for over a hundred years, so I guess somebody ripped off the name for the 1980’s kids cartoon “The Popples”. Such a weird word, it can’t just be a coincidence.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-of-course-we-didnt-name-our-product-after-that-famous-thing/831711/26 "2019-04-11T04:30:53Z")

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Elon Musk should be beaten with a rolled up newspaper.

_Bad Dog! BAD DOG!_

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-of-course-we-didnt-name-our-product-after-that-famous-thing/831711/27 "2019-04-11T11:50:13Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> **CalMeacham @#8:**. Don’t forget the twin Bubbles Mountains in Acadia National Park, Mount Desert Island, Maine.
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> Supposedly named after some NYC/Bar Harbor 19th century plutocrat’s mistress’s bazongas.
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> [Bubble Mountains - Acadia National Park Maine](https://acadiamagic.com/bubble_mtns_01.html)

Oh, there are LOTS of paired voluptuously round hills and mountains around the world named after boobs.

My complaint about Grand Tetons is that they’re not --they’re craggy, angular things. There’s a lot more than two of them, and if they were actual boobs they look as if you could cut yourself on them.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-of-course-we-didnt-name-our-product-after-that-famous-thing/831711/28 "2019-04-11T12:03:43Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Oh, there are LOTS of paired voluptuously round hills and mountains around the world named after boobs.
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> My complaint about Grand Tetons is that they’re not --they’re craggy, angular things. There’s a lot more than two of them, and if they were actual boobs they look as if you could cut yourself on them.

People were not always literal back then, and there was no fetish for absolute accuracy.

Given the fact that “tétons” is a French word for “nipples,” that’s clearly what was being referred to. Unless you can come up with another definition for the word.

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The makers of [Soylent](https://soylent.com/pages/about-the-company) nutritional smoothies are adamant that their product is named after the one from Harry Harrison’s novel _Make Room! Make Room!_

It’s _definitely_ not named after [the identically-named product from the much more well-known movie adaptation of that novel.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green) No sir. No sirree Bob.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> People were not always literal back then, and there was no fetish for absolute accuracy.
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> Given the fact that “tétons” is a French word for “nipples,” that’s clearly what was being referred to. Unless you can come up with another definition for the word.

Easily.

“Tits” , from “teats”, arguably refers only to the nipples, but the term is used for the entire breast. Plenty of internet sites translate “Teton” as breast, including the Cambridge Dictionary online – [TÉTON | translate French to English - Cambridge Dictionary](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/french-english/teton)

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**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-of-course-we-didnt-name-our-product-after-that-famous-thing/831711/31 "2019-04-11T13:26:51Z")

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Gene Roddenberry always claimed when he came up with a one syllable name for his character he had never heard of the famous doctor with the same name.

“Highly illogical” says Mr. Spock.

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**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-of-course-we-didnt-name-our-product-after-that-famous-thing/831711/32 "2019-04-11T13:32:25Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> All respect, but I would eat the hell out of that candy bar. Billy knew how to bring the party.

Billy beer was pretty god awful.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-of-course-we-didnt-name-our-product-after-that-famous-thing/831711/33 "2019-04-11T13:37:24Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The makers of [Soylent](https://soylent.com/pages/about-the-company) nutritional smoothies are adamant that their product is named after the one from Harry Harrison’s novel _Make Room! Make Room!_
> 
> It’s _definitely_ not named after [the identically-named product from the much more well-known movie adaptation of that novel.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green) No sir. No sirree Bob.

Well, “soylent” in the book is made from a combination of _ **soy** _ beans and _ **len** _tils. But in the movie, as everyone knows…

_Soylent Green is People!!_  
Just when you think people might start to forget this, **Cloud Atlas** came along and revived the meme.

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**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-of-course-we-didnt-name-our-product-after-that-famous-thing/831711/34 "2019-04-11T14:34:31Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The makers of [Soylent](https://soylent.com/pages/about-the-company) nutritional smoothies are adamant that their product is named after the one from Harry Harrison’s novel _Make Room! Make Room!_
> 
> It’s _definitely_ not named after [the identically-named product from the much more well-known movie adaptation of that novel.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green) No sir. No sirree Bob.

> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Well, “soylent” in the book is made from a combination of _ **soy** _ beans and _ **len** _tils. But in the movie, as everyone knows…
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> _Soylent Green is People!!_

Plus that Wikipedia article also mentions Soylent Red and Soylent Yellow.

A [30-year-old computer game](https://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/space-rogue/reviews/reviewerId,2172/) features Soylent Gray as a tradable commodity.

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Yeah, the Tetons are about the most un-breast-like mountains on the planet.

And I don’t think that the Beatles have ever denied that the surreal lyrics of “Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds” were drug-inspired: It’s just the name that they deny. Which, to me, lends credence, since if they were going to lie about it, I’d expect them to lie about everything. Plus, of course, the picture still exists.

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-of-course-we-didnt-name-our-product-after-that-famous-thing/831711/36 "2019-04-12T10:14:31Z")

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The video game Perfect Dark revolves around a futuristic young female secret agent named Joanna Dark who winds up singlehandedly saving the Earth through her adventure. The British makers of the game claim the fact her name highly resembles “Joan of Arc” or “Jeanne d’Arc” is just a coincidence, but the name is way too close for me to believe that. As to why they would lie about it, they might just being cheeky.

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-of-course-we-didnt-name-our-product-after-that-famous-thing/831711/37 "2019-04-12T11:41:26Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> The 1931 movie starred Jackie Cooper, who won an Oscar for Best Actor in a Leading Role as a result.

Jackie Cooper was nominated but he didn’t win. [Lionel Barrymore won](https://www.oscars.org/oscars/ceremonies/1932).

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-of-course-we-didnt-name-our-product-after-that-famous-thing/831711/38 "2019-04-12T12:46:47Z")

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I’ve argued several times that George Romero’s original **Night of the Living Dead** looks as if it owes a lot to the 1959 movie **Invisible Invaders** – resurrected “living dead” walking around stiff-armed and stiff-legged, often dressed in business suits and with stares and dark circles under the eyes, attacking the Living. You even had it being caused by an extraterrestrial satellite, as Romero’s film alludes to near the end of NotLD.

But Romero claims that he was inspired by Matheson’s novel _I am Legend_, but even Matheson wasn’t impressed by that explanation. In Matheson’s novel the monsters are described as vampires, not zombies (zombies, at the time, didn’t generally seek to attack people), even going so far as to “scientifically” explain aspects of vampirism as the results of a plague. Nowadays, zombification is sometimes portrayed as the result of a disease, but it was a new thing when Matheson wrote his novel, and was clearly intended as a vampire explanation, not a zombie one.

In short, NotLD has much more in common with Invisible Invaders. I wonder if Romero ignored that more likely explanation in order to avoid any sort of legal action.

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Ah, thought of another one.
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> I can’t come up with any plausible reason for Hannah Barbera to name its cartoon bear **Yogi Bear** besides imitating the name of the famous Yankee catcher **Yogi Berra**. Is there anything else that seems even remotely similar in sound or derivation? But HB denied any association:
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> [Yogi Bear - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogi_Bear)
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> Yeah, right.

I remember as a kid in the early '60s watching a commercial for Yoohoo soda, maybe? which starred an animated Yogi Berra climbing to the top of the outfield wall. Confused the hell out of me, as the ad clearly had nothing to do with Yogi Bear. (My family just wasn’t in to sports!)

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> [@BrotherCadfael](#):
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> I remember as a kid in the early '60s watching a commercial for Yoohoo soda, maybe? which starred an animated Yogi Berra climbing to the top of the outfield wall. Confused the hell out of me, as the ad clearly had nothing to do with Yogi Bear. (My family just wasn’t in to sports!)

Yeah, I remember those. They featured sort of cutout animation of a baseball player (which had Yogi Berra’s face pasted in place as his head) climbing the wall. It was, indeed, for Yoo-hoo (which isn’t a soda, nor is it chocolate milk. It’s _sui generis_ chocolate drink).

I can’t find it in YouTube, and the sites I bring up are clogged with ads.

> **[Yoo-hoo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoo-hoo)**
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> Yoo-hoo is an American brand of chocolate-flavored beverage that was created by Natale Olivieri in Garfield, New Jersey, in 1928 and is currently manufactured by Keurig Dr Pepper. As of 2019, the drink is primarily made from water, high-fructose corn syrup and whey.
> Yoo-hoo was created in Garfield, New Jersey, in 1928 by Natale Olivieri, who had been bottling carbonated fruit drinks.
> In the 1940s, Thomas Giresi opened a bottling plant in Batesburg, South Carolina, for distribution of Yoo-hoo....

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