# No-No:s for adult men

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 26, 2011, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093 "2011-03-26T22:13:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/41 "2011-03-27T05:09:18Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> The biggest demographic for video games is adult males with the average age about 35. In other words, it is like saying that real adult men don’t watch sports on TV. A world like that might make some happy but it isn’t the one we live in.

Video games address a lot of the same needs that sports do for men to fulfill our competitive and aggressive urges. The big difference (which is why I hate sports but love video games) is that in sports you are just sitting on your ass watching other people play\*, living vicariously, while in video games you are (still sitting on your ass), but playing as an _active participant_ in the competition.

ETA: \*unless, of course, you are an athlete. But most sports fans are just that: fans. Which is pretty lame, IMO.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/42 "2011-03-27T05:17:16Z")

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> [@Jake\_Jones](#):
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> Hah! Nice. Also, how does one produce a typo that requires a shift key when the correct keystroke did not? No-No:s, indeed.
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> Also, adult men without children should absolutely not buy themselves toys like remote control helicopters. Anyway, the charge time sucks. 😉

😃 Actually, there’s a real point here: adult men (and women, for that matter) shouldn’t be buying crappy toys. As a kid, I bought my fair share of crud videogame on impulse. As an adult equipped with a smartphone, I’d be a little embarrassed to drop $60 on a new game that a cursory googling would have revealed as crap.

Adults needn’t have different passions from kids - the only sine qua non of adulthood is that we must pursue them with adult self-control.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/43 "2011-03-27T05:24:23Z")

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any man who doesn’t beat the woman he loves does not love her.

Any man who shows any affection for any human being except for Vince Lombardi should just wear a pink triangle.

any man who touches a child, in a way that does not cause the child to toughen up, is not a man.

Any person who think there are behaviors that is OK for one sex and not OK for another, please shut up.

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**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/44 "2011-03-27T05:29:43Z")

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Has there been a poll lately on how many on the boards game, and of what gender? It seems such a given that I’m assuming so, but I’m not seeing one.

For the record, I put ‘gaming’ into the same entertainment category as any other kind of computerized entertainment. Whether it’s video games, online poker, trolling boards all day or fantasy football, I put about the same distinction between the types as I do between, say, types of television shows. It’s all television, but there’s all kinds of shows. So in that, it’s ALL a generational thing, and even those not whooping up on blood elves or gnomes are still seeking electronic entertainment, and I don’t think it’s that big of a difference.

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**Author:** ![Jake\_Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Jake\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jake_Jones)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/45 "2011-03-27T05:32:01Z")

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> [@Mr.Excellent](#):
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> 😃 Actually, there’s a real point here: adult men (and women, for that matter) shouldn’t be buying crappy toys.

It’s actually not a crappy toy at all. On the contrary, it’s a shit-ton of fun to be had for $23 and incredibly well built at that price. Hell, I think I had shitty remote control cars that were more expensive in the 80’s, in 80’s dollars! But, the charge time does suck. It’s a Syma S107, for the record.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/46 "2011-03-27T05:36:22Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> I saw a similar list recently that was pretty accurate except for one huge miss like the video games one in this list. The one on that list was something like ‘no man over 30 should listen to Pink Floyd’. WTH, that is practically old people’s music at this point and not bad by any means. I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of people under 30 had never heard of them.

I think you’d be surprised. I was born in 1984 and I definitely heard people my own age listening to “Dark Side of the Moon” and such in the school parking lot, wearing Pink Floyd t-shirts, and otherwise not being ashamed of liking decades-old music. It wasn’t all of them, by any stretch, but it was enough of them to be visible.

However, the high school I went to was extremely white. The only really visible visible minority were the Native Americans, and there weren’t a huge number of them, either. It’s also fair to say that I’ve never lived in a region but that it was the ass-end of some conservative locale and definitely _not_ up to speed with modern trends.

If I may pontificate: White peoples’ popular music hasn’t undergone a massive shift totally away from a given style since big band gave way to rock’n’roll on mainstream white radio stations. Guitars, drums, rhythm, usually singing, and very often three minutes: That’s pretty much it, isn’t it? That takes you from the Beatles onwards, anyway, given that the piano dropped out at some point. You can cut rock down into periods, but ever since Chuck Berry there’s been a strain of music on the radio called rock or rock’n’roll with some reasonably constant characteristics such that taking a song from 1975 and one from 2005 isn’t a massive jump. Now, listen to a chart-topping song from 1945. _There’s_ a massive jump.

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> It makes me think that the people that write these lists are just targeting some perceived faults about specific people in their life that they don’t like.

I’m pretty sure this is it. If you associate Floyd with dope-smoking dropout losers then of course no respectable man is going to listen to longhair music like Pink Floyd or Mahler.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/47 "2011-03-27T07:28:55Z")

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> [@scamartistry](#):
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> Some things an adult male cannot do if he ever wants to be taken seriously
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> -Use the term “LOL”, no matter what circumstance  
> -Play videogames  
> -Update his facebook status once a day

That’s enough for me: fuck being an adult male, then.

I’ll just be who I am, whatever I am.

Couldn’t care less about some asinine list.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/48 "2011-03-27T07:32:14Z")

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Zebra-I know your list was parody, and to prove a point: Lombardi had a gay brother whom he was very (apparantly) close to.

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**Author:** ![Shmendrik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Shmendrik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shmendrik)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/49 "2011-03-27T07:34:17Z")

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> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#):
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> Eat ice cream in public.  
> **Betray any interest in history that is not political or military.**  
> Speak in asides or one-liners.  
> Act affectionate towards cats.  
> Wear two-tone shoes when not playing golf.
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> I speak from experience here. I do all these things.

I don’t get it. The other things on your list are all stereotypically un-masculine (other than the ice cream one, maybe) but what’s with the history thing?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/50 "2011-03-27T08:48:32Z")

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> [@Shmendrik](#):
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> I don’t get it. The other things on your list are all stereotypically un-masculine (other than the ice cream one, maybe) but what’s with the history thing?

Up until the last 30 years or so, the military and politics were the exclusive dominion of men.

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**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/51 "2011-03-27T08:52:53Z")

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> [@Shmendrik](#):
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> I don’t get it. The other things on your list are all stereotypically un-masculine (other than the ice cream one, maybe) but what’s with the history thing?

He should have been more specific in that the history a MANLY MAN should know would be details of military history, ie: the course of pivotal battles, routes of march, that sort of thing.

Also, like the rest of the OP’s list, total and complete bullshit, but that’s ok.

Prediction: The OP will now avoid this thread.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/52 "2011-03-27T09:36:09Z")

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> [@Tristan](#):
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> Prediction: The OP will now avoid this thread.

It was an obvious joke.

> [@Shmendrik](#):
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> I don’t get it. The other things on your list are all stereotypically un-masculine (other than the ice cream one, maybe) but what’s with the history thing?

Watch the History Channel. Ignore the stuff that puts you in mind of a candidate for [del]care in the community[/del] a permanent berth under an overpass. What’s left is Big Stuff and War, with politics being War by other means. That’s the exciting part of history (according to most people) and that’s what **Beware of Doug** was saying the stereotypical man would be interested in.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/53 "2011-03-27T09:58:14Z")

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> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#):
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> Act affectionate towards cats.

Who’s a sweetie? Who’s a little sweetie? You are. Yes, you are! Yes you are! Nuzzle nuzzle nuzzle.

::Checks man card:: Hah, still intact.

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**Author:** ![scamartistry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@scamartistry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scamartistry)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/54 "2011-03-27T10:16:13Z")

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> [@Tristan](#):
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> He should have been more specific in that the history a MANLY MAN should know would be details of military history, ie: the course of pivotal battles, routes of march, that sort of thing.
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> Also, like the rest of the OP’s list, total and complete bullshit, but that’s ok.
> 
> Prediction: The OP will now avoid this thread.

Complete BS list? Arbitrary perhaps but full of valid points…I doubt that if John Wayne was 35 today he would be busy updating is Facebook page 5 times a day or play Super Mario on his Nintendo 360.

I think what we are witnessing is the “pussyfication” of the western world in many ways.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/55 "2011-03-27T11:01:23Z")

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> [@scamartistry](#):
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> Complete BS list? Arbitrary perhaps but full of valid points…I doubt that if John Wayne was 35 today he would be busy updating is Facebook page 5 times a day or play Super Mario on his Nintendo 360.

No, his publicist would responsible for posting on Facebook. He’d probably have a PS3 in his trailer, although he might not play that much between takes.

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/56 "2011-03-27T11:16:46Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> Up until the last 30 years or so, the military and politics were the exclusive dominion of men.

This is sarcastic, right? You must know women have been active in both as long as men have in the States. I’ll consider my leg pulled, if only to reassure myself I’m posting on the right board.

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/57 "2011-03-27T11:50:29Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> Who’s a sweetie? Who’s a little sweetie? You are. Yes, you are! Yes you are! Nuzzle nuzzle nuzzle.
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> ::Checks man card:: Hah, still intact.

Add carrying a man card to the list! 😃

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/58 "2011-03-27T11:53:53Z")

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> [@scamartistry](#):
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> I think what we are witnessing is the “pussyfication” of the western world in many ways.

Vin Diesel has beat the shit out of more guys _ **AND** _ played more Dungeons and Dragons than everyone on this board combined.

Pussification (which you can’t even spell) indeed.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/59 "2011-03-27T11:58:04Z")

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> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#):
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> I’m going to say men don’t use the term ‘no-no’, that’s what I’m going to say. And also that stereotypes are such a time-saver.

I assumed this was a joke based on Community: Troy just called wine “No-no juice.”

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/60 "2011-03-27T11:59:37Z")

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> [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#):
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> Add carrying a man card to the list! 😃

Shit, did I break the Bro Code?

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