# No-No:s for adult men

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 26, 2011, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093 "2011-03-26T22:13:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![scamartistry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@scamartistry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scamartistry)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/121 "2011-03-29T18:11:57Z")

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> [@Tristan](#):
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> Prediction: The OP will now avoid this thread.

Still here, I have no problem defending my position sugar-honey

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**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/122 "2011-03-29T18:12:17Z")

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> [@scamartistry](#):
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> Wow this has turned into a feminist/weak-male thread.
> 
> Afraid of cultures where men are men and females are females. Intresting

I play video games. I check facebook several times a day.

However my doing (or not doing) of those things doesn’t define me as a man.

Any anyone who uses those things, or things they perceive to be feminine or masculine as a barometer of who is manly and who isn’t is an idiot.

I’m not that into sports. Does that make me less manly?

I do watch MMA, and am regularly trying to take Martial Arts classes. How 'bout now? Manly? Not manly?

I don’t fish, and while I would like to learn, I have not yet gone hunting. Less manly?

I’m also a pretty damn good shot with a rifle. Given the proper tools, doing center mass shots on a silhoutte at 500 meters all day long is super fun. (side note: I was taught to shoot by my mother) Manly? Less Manly?

This is not (thank god) the 1950’s. Get over it.

PS- Farmville=video games. Facebook games=video games. Angry Birds is a video game.

ETA: You’re not defending a damn thing. You’re making statements, and not backing them up with anything. I think you fight like a girl. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/123 "2011-03-29T18:20:30Z")

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> [@scamartistry](#):
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> Wow this has turned into a feminist/weak-male thread.

Real men don’t play the Feminazi card when they are losing.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/124 "2011-03-29T18:22:29Z")

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> [@Tristan](#):
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> I think you fight like a girl. 🙂

How appropriate: You fight like a cow.

No… wait…

It’s just been revoked!

Damn… what?

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**Author:** ![scamartistry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@scamartistry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scamartistry)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/125 "2011-03-29T18:28:01Z")

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I check facebook several times a day.

**-major point loser**

However my doing (or not doing) of those things doesn’t define me as a man.

I’m not that into sports. Does that make me less manly?

**-Yes**

I do watch MMA, and am regularly trying to take Martial Arts classes. How 'bout now? Manly? Not manly?

\*\*-Hmm so-so  
\*\*

I don’t fish, and while I would like to learn, I have not yet gone hunting. Less manly?

**-Not on the list (yet…)**

PS- Farmville=video games. Facebook games=video games. Angry Birds is a video game.

\*\*-BIG TIME NO-NO  
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**Author:** ![Interconnected\_Series\_of\_Tubes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/13edae/32.png) [@Interconnected\_Series\_of\_Tubes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Interconnected_Series_of_Tubes)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/126 "2011-03-29T18:45:02Z")

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I like where this thread is [going](http://420.thrashbarg.net/i_like_where_this_thread_is_going_ship_heading_into_epic_storm.jpg).

ITT: chick doesn’t understand effect of ultimatums on men.

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**Author:** ![scamartistry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@scamartistry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scamartistry)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/127 "2011-03-29T20:04:32Z")

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> [@Interconnected\_Series\_of\_Tubes](#):
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> I like where this thread is [going](http://420.thrashbarg.net/i_like_where_this_thread_is_going_ship_heading_into_epic_storm.jpg).
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> ITT: chick doesn’t understand effect of ultimatums on men.

Love it. Of course Real men do not play Playstation- If you disagree make your own list pal. We must live in parallel universes.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/128 "2011-03-29T20:08:44Z")

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Real men are Scotsmen.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/129 "2011-03-29T20:27:19Z")

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> [@scamartistry](#):
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> Love it. Of course Real men do not play Playstation- If you disagree make your own list pal. We must live in parallel universes.

You’re right, real men play Wii. Because they were boys when the NES was out and now that they own a Wii 20 years later they’re god damn men.

Do any of the other real men in this thread want to take some bets on when scamartisty will get banned?

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**Author:** ![scamartistry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@scamartistry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scamartistry)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/130 "2011-03-29T20:34:49Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> You’re right, real men play Wii. Because they were boys when the NES was out and now that they own a Wii 20 years later they’re god damn men.
> 
> Do any of the other real men in this thread want to take some bets on when scamartisty will get banned?

Banned for not liking Super Mario Bros. Let me be a martyr sir

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/131 "2011-03-29T20:35:59Z")

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Real men have penises. I am not willing to be flexible on this, no way, good sir!

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/132 "2011-03-29T20:38:25Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> Real men have penises. I am not willing to be flexible on this, no way, good sir!

:checks pants:

Phew.

😃

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/133 "2011-03-29T20:39:29Z")

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Uh. Real men should also be sure they have a penis before the pants-checking. However, I can bend on this a little, I suppose… :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/134 "2011-03-29T20:42:04Z")

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> [@Interconnected\_Series\_of\_Tubes](#):
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> I like where this thread is [going](http://420.thrashbarg.net/i_like_where_this_thread_is_going_ship_heading_into_epic_storm.jpg).
> 
> ITT: chick doesn’t understand effect of ultimatums on men.

Knowledge of internet memes. That’s a paddlin’. I mean, weak male/feminist trait.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/135 "2011-03-29T20:45:25Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Do any of the other real men in this thread want to take some bets on when scamartisty will get banned?

Real men don’t let attacks on their manhood ruffle them. 😃

Unless it’s, you know, an actual attack on the actual manhood. Then all bets are off.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/136 "2011-03-29T20:53:45Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> Real men don’t let attacks on their manhood ruffle them. 😃

Who’s ruffled? _Real men_ love to gamble.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/137 "2011-03-29T21:41:32Z")

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> [@suranyi](#):
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> Well you do see a lot of female violinists, and they do play lightning-fast solos and extraordinarily complex music.

Sigh. Yes, you (and others here) are correct, but I’d hoped that by specifically mentioning “heavy metal & progressive rock” along with “lists of the best guitarists/drummers” it would be clear I was talking about rock/pop music. And in the world of rock/pop, the audiences for metal and progressive rock are _overwhelmingly_ male. Guys will tell their friends about a band they like by saying something like, “Dude, you have _got_ to hear this guitarist! He shreds!” I’ve never heard a woman say something like that. Women say, “I really like/don’t like this singer.” Heck, “I can’t stand Geddy Lee’s voice” is the universal first answer given by every woman asked if she likes Rush. Okay, to be fair, an awful lot of men say the same thing, but it’s more often qualified: “I just wish they had a singer I could listen to, because those guys can play!”

I spend a lot of time on YouTube, and one interesting thing I’ve noticed is that shredding female guitarists, drummers, and bassists are still such a novelty that the titles on the videos they post will almost always point out that it’s a girl doing it.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/138 "2011-03-29T23:01:40Z")

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[Real men certainly](http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE6DB1230F931A2575AC0A965958260&pagewanted=all) [don’t cry.](https://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/15/opinion/15miller.html)

> [@first link](#):
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> George Washington “was obliged to wipe his eyes several times,” according to the account of one Dr. Cogswell, at his heady arrival in New York for his swearing-in as the first President.

> [@second link](#):
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> The [American Revolutionary War] officers were stunned. Many openly wept. Their mutinous mood gave way immediately to affection for their commander.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/139 "2011-03-30T01:13:02Z")

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> [@scamartistry](#):
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> Some things an adult male cannot do if he ever wants to be taken seriously
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> -Use the term “LOL”, no matter what circumstance  
> -Play videogames  
> -Update his facebook status once a day  
> -Respond to chain letters on email  
> -Read the horoscope  
> -Follow a soap-opera  
> -Call-in Vote for his favorite Pop Idol  
> -Be up to date with what celebrity is dating who

lol, I used to watch _Port Charles_ when it was on, but these days following a soap would lose out to playing Warflow. And I don’t believe in Facebook, I prefer Dreamwidth (though I’m not on every day), or–well, I loathe tumblr less. I barely check my email, no time for chain letters.

If by horoscope you mean the newspaper astrological forecast–all sun signs & generalizations, yeah, I mostly ignore that. I have a friend who actually pays attention to his planets & houses, though. When _Rock Star_ was on, several years ago, you bet I voted; I don’t usually watch those shows now (too emotional! [why yes, I do have a moon in Pisces!]).

And there’s no way I’m up to date on whom celebrities are “dating.” Too many to keep track of, & a lot of it is either something made up for publicity or something guessed at by voyeurs.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-no-s-for-adult-men/576093/140 "2011-03-30T01:15:49Z")

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I read _shoujo manga_. I used to have Neopets. I can be such a ten-year-old girl.

Fine, don’t take me seriously.

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