# No one.. Noone... No-one... Knowone...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-one-noone-no-one-knowone/77545>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [August 22, 2001, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-one-noone-no-one-knowone/77545 "2001-08-22T14:36:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2001, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-one-noone-no-one-knowone/77545/1 "2001-08-22T14:36:31Z")

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Dammit! I can’t take this anymore.

That darned word trips me up every time. Whenever I’m forced to use it, I randomly pick one and hope it’s right. If it isn’t, I hope others will assume it’s a typo.

For God’s sake, enlighten me!!

Which one is it?

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**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2001, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-one-noone-no-one-knowone/77545/2 "2001-08-22T14:42:14Z")

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“Nobody.” 😃

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**Author:** ![navtechie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b19c9b/32.png) [@navtechie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/navtechie)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2001, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-one-noone-no-one-knowone/77545/3 "2001-08-22T14:46:46Z")

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it is: no one

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**Author:** ![Perderabo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Perderabo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Perderabo)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2001, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-one-noone-no-one-knowone/77545/4 "2001-08-22T14:48:45Z")

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[No one](http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/noone.html) is correct.

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**Author:** ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2001, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-one-noone-no-one-knowone/77545/5 "2001-08-22T15:04:52Z")

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Ahh, **pldennison**. My old nemesis.

I get the impression you were kidding, but you do have a point. Could all instances when I’d normally use ‘no one’ (Thanks **navtechie & Perderabo** ) be changed to nobody?

For instance-  
‘No one is here’ could be changed to ‘nobody is here’. Likewise, ‘no one I know likes physics’ could be changed to ‘noboby I know likes physics’.

I more confused now than I was before.

Is using ‘no one’ _ever_ acceptable?

(Grammer is the bane of my existance. This post alone has presented me with more damn questions than the original post. I hate grammatical rules and regulations- me no likey.)

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**Author:** ![Francesca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2001, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-one-noone-no-one-knowone/77545/6 "2001-08-22T15:17:36Z")

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There is the sentence “There is no one way to do this” but obviously, that’s a different meaning. I can’t think of any cases that retain the meaning where “no one” cannot be replaced easily with “nobody”.

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**Author:** ![Chez\_Guevara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Chez\_Guevara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chez_Guevara)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2001, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-one-noone-no-one-knowone/77545/7 "2001-08-22T16:15:26Z")

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I know this.

No one who knows anyone with a ‘Collins English Dictionary’ will doubt that someone using ‘no one’ can also use ‘no-one’ as an acceptable alternative.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2001, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-one-noone-no-one-knowone/77545/8 "2001-08-22T19:25:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CnoteChris \*  
> Grammer is the bane of my existance.

What’s Kelsey ever done to you?

(Music maestro, please) No one knows the trouble I seen…
