# "No play for Mr. Gray"!? WTF!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 1, 2004, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-play-for-mr-gray-wtf/272223 "2004-11-01T01:47:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Greathouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greathouse/32/2992_2.png) [@Greathouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greathouse)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-play-for-mr-gray-wtf/272223/21 "2004-11-01T15:34:46Z")
I have had a grey spot on the top of my head since I was about 13 years old. It is roughly about the size of a silver dollar. It looks like the grey spot that the guy who used to do Talk Soup had. (What a fucked up sentence) Like I said, mine is pretty much right on tope of my head. Since I wear long hair it ends up that I have a grey streak down the back of my hair. Now my beard is turning grey. I am 30 years old. I would never consider dying my hair or beard. If some woman doesn’t want anything to do with me simply because of my hair, then I can’t imagine I really wanted anything to do with her, either. My grey streak and grey beard haven’t hurt me yet. Most people don’t actually care if my hair and beard are turning grey, and niether do I. ---
**Author:** ![moriah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@moriah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moriah)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-play-for-mr-gray-wtf/272223/22 "2004-11-01T15:46:12Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > Oh, sure, there’s the bear subculture, but I get very tired of the whole “woof” BS that goes on. \ Oh, daddy, will the self-loathing never cease? Just remember Jean-Luc Picard and Sean Connery are sex idols. ## Peace. When some good scout, invites me out To dine on some fine fin and haddie My baby’s sure, his love is secure Cause my heart belongs to daddy Yes my heart belongs to daddy So I simply couldn’t be bad Yes I’m gonna marry daddy Da-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-ad If you feel romantic laddy Let me warn you right from the start That my heart belongs to daddy And my daddy belongs to my heart ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-play-for-mr-gray-wtf/272223/23 "2004-11-01T18:15:42Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Hey, **Larry** , do you remember the title of that story? I’d like to read it. I wracked my brains for it last night and came up empty, but thankfully Google is more reliable than my little grey cells. The title of the story is _Sales Pitch_, and [it’s available in this collection](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0806512261/ref=pd_sim_books_4/002-8784378-1384005?v=glance&s=books). ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-play-for-mr-gray-wtf/272223/24 "2004-11-01T19:19:09Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Then you might want to try my response to gray hair…[here](http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/dwsimm2000/detail?.dir=8cf7&.dnm=779c.jpg) > > I’m a robust, married, manly man who went gray in my 30s. 😃 Silenus, it’s not the gray hair or absence thereof that bothers me. That t-shirt should have a “WMD” sign on it. Oh, my eyes! And I like gray hair on men. It doesn’t look bad at all. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-play-for-mr-gray-wtf/272223/25 "2004-11-01T19:24:53Z")
> [@moriah](#): > > \ > > Oh, daddy, will the self-loathing never cease? > > Just remember Jean-Luc Picard and Sean Connery are sex idols. Who’s self-loathing? I’m older and hairy, so I clearly fit in with the whole “bear” thing, but I’m more into the rough hewn manly man, and not some Louis Anderson with a beard who goes to bear bars because he’s too lazy to go to the gym and the twinks at the other bars won’t give him the time of day. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-play-for-mr-gray-wtf/272223/26 "2004-11-01T19:30:44Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > I wracked my brains for it last night and came up empty, but thankfully Google is more reliable than my little grey cells. The title of the story is _Sales Pitch_, and [it’s available in this collection](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0806512261/ref=pd_sim_books_4/002-8784378-1384005?v=glance&s=books). Many thanks. I’m putting together a course on the rise of American consumer society, and that story sounds like a good example of attitudes to advertising and consumption. I might get the students to read it if it’s any good. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-play-for-mr-gray-wtf/272223/27 "2004-11-01T19:41:45Z")
> [@Zette](#): > > I’ve seriously never, ever heard a friend of mine say “I like him, but he’s bald. No way!” or grey, or whatever. If they’re gay, they skip the “I like him” part. And you can add “lacks gym body”, “has bad hair,” and “is not wearing designer clothes” to the list. [QUOTE=gobear] Hey, just try being over-40 and gay! If you’re a middle-aged gay man, you are essentially invisible in gay media, which sells hairless, buffed-up twinks … [QUOTE] > [@gobear](#): > > but I’m more into the rough hewn manly man, and not some Louis Anderson with a beard who goes to bear bars because he’s too lazy to go to the gym… _cough_ ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-play-for-mr-gray-wtf/272223/28 "2004-11-01T19:51:41Z")
I like fit men, sue me. Some people like skinny boys in unitards (buffed-up twinks), I like burly men in flannel. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-play-for-mr-gray-wtf/272223/29 "2004-11-01T19:55:39Z")
Distinguished streaks of silver at the temples… A well-trimmed salt-and-pepper beard… THAT IS SEXY!!! And don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. Of course if the above are attached to a drooling slob, never mind. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-play-for-mr-gray-wtf/272223/30 "2004-11-01T20:02:59Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > I like fit men, sue me. Some people like skinny boys in unitards (buffed-up twinks), I like burly men in flannel. That’s fine; I like boys with magenta hair, but boys who don’t take the time to dye their hair to suit me aren’t lazy. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-play-for-mr-gray-wtf/272223/31 "2004-11-01T20:08:30Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Many thanks. > > I’m putting together a course on the rise of American consumer society, and that story sounds like a good example of attitudes to advertising and consumption. I might get the students to read it if it’s any good. continuing hijack… The novel (not too long) The Space Merchants, by Pohl & Kornbluth would probably fit in too. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-play-for-mr-gray-wtf/272223/32 "2004-11-01T20:29:39Z")
> [@Elenia28](#): > > Silenus, it’s not the gray hair or absence thereof that bothers me. That shirt should have a “WMD” sign on it. Oh, my eyes! You’re just jealous because the elves make shirts for me and not for you! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-play-for-mr-gray-wtf/272223/33 "2004-11-01T20:36:59Z")
And if **Silenus** and I weren’t both taken, and if he were gay, I’d be breakin’ him off a little somethin’ somethin’. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2004, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-play-for-mr-gray-wtf/272223/34 "2004-11-01T20:55:19Z")
So… **gobear** , how _you_ doin’? 😃 (BTW, that hysterical laughter you hear in the background is my wife. I mentioned to her that a fellow Doper found me attractive. Then she discovered who.) ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2004, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-play-for-mr-gray-wtf/272223/35 "2004-11-02T03:23:30Z")
> [@Elenia28](#): > > Silenus, it’s not the gray hair or absence thereof that bothers me. That t-shirt should have a “WMD” sign on it. Oh, my eyes! Yeah, really. What, you lost the color in your hair so you decided to make up for it with your shirt? Oy gevalt! But I’ve gotta tell you, you really are a nice looking fella. You couldn’t be more “not my type,” but for a guy who’s absolutely not my type, you ain’t half bad. 🙂 p.s. Hi Mrs. Silenus! I’m a 33 year old hetero female. So there. ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2004, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-play-for-mr-gray-wtf/272223/36 "2004-11-02T05:08:41Z")
> [@Sunspace](#): > > You fuckers! I’ve spent ten years pulling myself out of the pit of self-hate and near-suicide, and I don’t need you pulling me back at every turn, feeding back my self-doubt and unworthiness to me. I’m finally getting to the point where I can (on good days) imagine that there just might be someone out there who would be attracted to me, and you advertiser scum come along and tell me I’m a worthless old fart because I’m over 40 and my beard is starting to go grey. I am trying to think of you as a worthless old fart as dictated by the advertisers, **Sunspace** , and it just isn’t happening. I’ll just think of you as rather sexy until further notice. I saw that commercial today. I hated it heartily in honor of this thread. ---
**Author:** ![whiterabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/cab0a1/32.png) [@whiterabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whiterabbit)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2004, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-play-for-mr-gray-wtf/272223/37 "2004-11-02T05:34:10Z")
My sweetie is 26 and not only does he have some gray hair, it’s also getting fairly thin on top. Oh dear, I guess I must dump him now. Ha. I hate those ads. [slight hijack]I also hate any ads that imply that your stink will fell an elephant at 100 feet if you don’t use their deodorant, or even worse, their deodorant tampons. Nobody needs perfume up their hoohas.[/slight hijack] ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2004, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-play-for-mr-gray-wtf/272223/38 "2004-11-02T05:45:34Z")
> [@whiterabbit](#): > > [slight hijack]I also hate any ads that imply that your stink will fell an elephant at 100 feet if you don’t use their deodorant, or even worse, their deodorant tampons. Nobody needs perfume up their hoohas.[/slight hijack] [Careening off into Hijack Highlands] And what’s the point of scented deodorants to begin with? All they do is mingle their sickly chemical odor with the natural human reek in a misbegotten stench that’s synergistically revolting. Ditto for scented cat litter – I mean, really! Adding perfume to cat stink? Who do they think they’re kidding? [/hijack] ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2004, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-play-for-mr-gray-wtf/272223/39 "2004-11-02T05:49:04Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > The worst part of those commercials is that most of those men looked a hell of a lot better before dying their hair. Anyone else agree? I’ve never seen these commercials, and my tastes aren’t in the right half of the spectrum, but I can easily imagine you being right. After all, whenever I see an ad for hair curling, the morose-looking women with beautiful long straight hair are much more attractive than the happy New Jersey Hair “after” scene. Even taking into account happy people being more attractive than sad! ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2004, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-play-for-mr-gray-wtf/272223/40 "2004-11-02T06:04:36Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > I can’t imagine dying either. Everybody dies, man. Everybody dies. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-play-for-mr-gray-wtf/272223.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-play-for-mr-gray-wtf/272223.md?page=3)