# "No president has ever won . . . blah blah blah . . . Ohio." **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 7, 2012, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-president-has-ever-won-blah-blah-blah-ohio/640170 "2012-11-07T03:11:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-president-has-ever-won-blah-blah-blah-ohio/640170/1 "2012-11-07T03:11:40Z")
I have no idea how many times we voters in Ohio have heard this nonsense over the last 18 months. All I do know is next time, I’m moving to another state that’s not so highly contested. And I won’t be back till after the election. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-president-has-ever-won-blah-blah-blah-ohio/640170/2 "2012-11-07T03:37:41Z")
I really hate these kind of things, almost enough for me to want the state to go blue and then Romney wins, just so they’ll shut the fuck up about it next time around. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-president-has-ever-won-blah-blah-blah-ohio/640170/3 "2012-11-07T03:40:44Z")
XKCD’s view on this: > **[Electoral Precedent](https://xkcd.com/1122/)** > > No white guy who's been mentioned on Twitter has gone on to win. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-president-has-ever-won-blah-blah-blah-ohio/640170/4 "2012-11-07T03:45:32Z")
I thought it was no Republican had won the election without winning Ohio. Weren’t there Dems who lost Ohio but won the presidency? ---
**Author:** ![jabiru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@jabiru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jabiru)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-president-has-ever-won-blah-blah-blah-ohio/640170/5 "2012-11-07T03:54:33Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > I thought it was no Republican had won the election without winning Ohio. Weren’t there Dems who lost Ohio but won the presidency? I’m glued to my own TV set in Sydney, Oz at the moment. The CNN guy said the last time someone won the presidency without winning Ohio was in 1960. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-president-has-ever-won-blah-blah-blah-ohio/640170/6 "2012-11-07T03:56:28Z")
> [@jabiru](#): > > I’m glued to my own TV set in Sydney, Oz at the moment. The CNN guy said the last time someone won the presidency without winning Ohio was in 1960. Well there ya go. That was Kennedy, a Democrat. ---
**Author:** ![jabiru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@jabiru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jabiru)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-president-has-ever-won-blah-blah-blah-ohio/640170/7 "2012-11-07T04:40:02Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Well there ya go. That was Kennedy, a Democrat. Against Nixon, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-president-has-ever-won-blah-blah-blah-ohio/640170/8 "2012-11-07T04:53:42Z")
… Nixon was a Quaker? I could not have called that. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-president-has-ever-won-blah-blah-blah-ohio/640170/9 "2012-11-07T05:54:24Z")
And I don’t remember Nixon being a Quaker ever being an issue. But Kennedy’s Catholicism was. Well, maybe if the Quakers had a Pope . . . ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-president-has-ever-won-blah-blah-blah-ohio/640170/10 "2012-11-07T06:13:54Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > And I don’t remember Nixon being a Quaker ever being an issue. But Kennedy’s Catholicism was. > > Well, maybe if the Quakers had a Pope . . . Well, they do, but that guy on the Oatmeal box is just so bland and inoffensive. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-president-has-ever-won-blah-blah-blah-ohio/640170/11 "2012-11-07T07:53:26Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > And I don’t remember Nixon being a Quaker ever being an issue. But Kennedy’s Catholicism was. It’s usually only a significant issue the first time. Hoover was the first Quaker President so he broke the trail for Nixon. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-president-has-ever-won-blah-blah-blah-ohio/640170/12 "2012-11-07T12:06:29Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > It’s usually only a significant issue the first time. Hoover was the first Quaker President so he broke the trail for Nixon. I don’t think Hoover’s Quakerism was seen as a big deal when he was elected. His opponent’s Catholicism was a much bigger deal. ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-president-has-ever-won-blah-blah-blah-ohio/640170/13 "2012-11-07T12:58:55Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > I don’t think Hoover’s Quakerism was seen as a big deal when he was elected. Nobody gave a Hoover damn about it. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-president-has-ever-won-blah-blah-blah-ohio/640170/14 "2012-11-07T13:07:57Z")
The upside to the so goes Ohio thing is that I have a ton of campaign literature now rotting in the compost heap. ---
**Author:** ![robardin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/43a26b/32.png) [@robardin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robardin)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-president-has-ever-won-blah-blah-blah-ohio/640170/15 "2012-11-07T13:15:06Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > I have no idea how many times we voters in Ohio have heard this nonsense over the last 18 months. All I do know is next time, I’m moving to another state that’s not so highly contested. And I won’t be back till after the election. You can move out of Ohio for the next presidential election if you like. But wherever you move to, assuming it’s still one of the US states, they’ll be talking about Ohio too. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-president-has-ever-won-blah-blah-blah-ohio/640170/16 "2012-11-07T14:00:11Z")
I’m hoping we can at least avoid hearing about the [Redskins Rule](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redskins_Rule) in the future. ---
**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-president-has-ever-won-blah-blah-blah-ohio/640170/17 "2012-11-07T14:28:21Z")
Mitt, it’s after 9 a.m. and you haven’t called me yet. You’ve called me every day for _weeks_. When you called me yesterday, you said you needed me. You said I was so important to you. You said if we just stayed together, we could rule the world. Now – now you’ve just forgotten, haven’t you? Forgotten what we meant to one another. Barack, too. He’s stopped calling me. And Sherrod, and Josh. You fucking men, you’re all alike, aren’t you? You just want one thing. Ohio. Well, we gave and gave until we had no more to give. All our electoral votes lie exposed before you like patients at a Planned Parenthood clinic we don’t have to close now. But I know you’ll be back again. There’s always 2016. You’ll be back. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-president-has-ever-won-blah-blah-blah-ohio/640170/18 "2012-11-07T14:51:44Z")
I don’t know what I’ll do now. Watching football next Sunday won’t be the same without seeing Maggie Brooks and Louise Slaughter accuse each other of corruption. I guess I’ll just have to fill the empty hours with beer commercials. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-president-has-ever-won-blah-blah-blah-ohio/640170/19 "2012-11-07T15:09:24Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > … Nixon was a Quaker? > > I could not have called that. And that’s why we lost 'Nam. Cuzza that damned peacenik in the White House. ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-president-has-ever-won-blah-blah-blah-ohio/640170/20 "2012-11-07T15:38:35Z")
I’d like to start a thread in GQ asking ‘What is so important about Ohio’? but I suspect it’s been done before and I just can’t find it. So…I’ll ask here. What IS so important about Ohio? It’s not it’s electoral votes; many states have more. Is it just a record thing that someone noticed? And no other state has ever stayed so true to the ‘rule’? Is it sort of the ‘center of the US’ or what? It’s obvious that Ohio tends to call it, but the question is WHY? Or perhaps “HOW?” [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-president-has-ever-won-blah-blah-blah-ohio/640170.md?page=2)