# No sex please, I’m a vegan

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-sex-please-i-m-a-vegan/415428>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 13, 2007, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-sex-please-i-m-a-vegan/415428 "2007-08-13T13:29:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![SnakesCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@SnakesCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakesCatLady)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-sex-please-i-m-a-vegan/415428/41 "2007-08-14T13:08:04Z")

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[QUOTE=gS49]  
A further question. If all animal products are disallowed, do vegans refuse to breastfeed? Or are babies who refuse the breast vegans from birth? And what about adult vegans?

And what about milk baths?  
And, does a vegan refuse to have a carnivorous pet? Or just to have sex with them?  
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Well, I guess the breastfeeding issue would depend on whether the vegan mother felt exploited by breastfeeding her baby. :rolleyes:

And I once overheard the vet I worked for explaining to a vegan that, no, she couldn’t feed her cat a strictly vegan diet. I don’t know if she got rid of the cat or not.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-sex-please-i-m-a-vegan/415428/42 "2007-08-14T13:11:05Z")

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[QUOTE=gS49]  
And, does a vegan refuse to have a carnivorous pet? Or just to have sex with them?  
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There is [no need](http://www.v-dogfood.com/) to have a carnivorous pet.

The big question is, will vegan dogs sniff the butts of non-vegan dogs? I look forward to the results of randomized controlled trials.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-sex-please-i-m-a-vegan/415428/43 "2007-08-14T13:14:25Z")

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What will vegans do when they discover they’re made out of meat?

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**Author:** ![gS49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3da27b/32.png) [@gS49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gS49)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-sex-please-i-m-a-vegan/415428/44 "2007-08-14T13:19:52Z")

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[QUOTE=RealityChuck]  
What will vegans do when they discover they’re made out of meat?  
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no more nail-biting, for one thing.

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**Author:** ![gS49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3da27b/32.png) [@gS49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gS49)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-sex-please-i-m-a-vegan/415428/45 "2007-08-14T13:21:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Jackmannii]  
There is [no need](http://www.v-dogfood.com/) to have a carnivorous pet.

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Plus, probably won’t have it for long.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-sex-please-i-m-a-vegan/415428/46 "2007-08-14T13:40:16Z")

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[QUOTE=gS49]  
And, does a vegan refuse to have a carnivorous pet?  
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[QUOTE=SnakesCatLady]  
And I once overheard the vet I worked for explaining to a vegan that, no, she couldn’t feed her cat a strictly vegan diet. I don’t know if she got rid of the cat or not.  
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My single anecdote involves a vegan friend of mine (coincidentally also my single vegan friend, himself not single but married to a former ethnic carnivore whose conversion to vegetarianism I suspect resulted from no small measure of lecturing on his part, and whose leap into the veganistic faith, last I heard, was still sullied by infrequent, shame-laden dairy transgressions, a fact which I’m sure is a pregnant source of marital tension, but I digress) “adopted” an apparent stray cat who’d begun hanging around their doorstep and began feeding it vegan cat food.

I’m still undecided whether this was an act of kindness or cruelty. The cat did seem happy enough— scrawny by house-pet standards, but somewhere on the safe side of starvation. I couldn’t help but hope it roamed the neighborhood without my friend’s knowledge, finding additional sustenance from his nonvegan neighbors (assuming there were any, this being the sort of West Coast enclave that features more vividly than Hell in cattlemen’s nightmares).

His rationale, which I did not find fully convincing, was that “regular” cat food also comprised a lot of ingredients not found in a feral cat’s diet, so why not feed them a cruelty-free regimen of vegetables and grains?

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**Author:** ![zelie\_zelerton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/59ef9b/32.png) [@zelie\_zelerton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zelie_zelerton)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-sex-please-i-m-a-vegan/415428/47 "2007-08-14T14:32:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Vinyl Turnip]  
My single anecdote involves a vegan friend of mine (coincidentally also my single vegan friend, himself not single but married to a former ethnic carnivore whose conversion to vegetarianism I suspect resulted from no small measure of lecturing on his part, and whose leap into the veganistic faith, last I heard, was still sullied by infrequent, shame-laden dairy transgressions, a fact which I’m sure is a pregnant source of marital tension, but I digress) “adopted” an apparent stray cat who’d begun hanging around their doorstep and began feeding it vegan cat food.

I’m still undecided whether this was an act of kindness or cruelty. The cat did seem happy enough— scrawny by house-pet standards, but somewhere on the safe side of starvation. I couldn’t help but hope it roamed the neighborhood without my friend’s knowledge, finding additional sustenance from his nonvegan neighbors (assuming there were any, this being the sort of West Coast enclave that features more vividly than Hell in cattlemen’s nightmares).

His rationale, which I did not find fully convincing, was that “regular” cat food also comprised a lot of ingredients not found in a feral cat’s diet, so why not feed them a cruelty-free regimen of vegetables and grains?  
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I’m sure the cat was fine and in that case I don’t see a problem with supplying vegan food. Its not as though cats are dependent on humans for food - don’t forget they are excellent hunters and will supplement the vegan foods with their natural prey.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-sex-please-i-m-a-vegan/415428/48 "2007-08-14T14:42:17Z")

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Or perhaps with vegans, if the situation becomes dire enough…

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-sex-please-i-m-a-vegan/415428/49 "2007-08-14T16:09:08Z")

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Back in the days when my son had a dog and I had a cat, he’d often mention that when people die alone, locked in with their animals, dogs will take, on average, three days longer before starting to eat.

Now we both have dogs and cats and he doesn’t mention it any more. I’m assuming it’s mostly BS, but he was dating a coroner’s tech at the time.

Oh, and he wasn’t concerned or trying to frighten me. He was just taking the opportunity to yank my chain. Do you think vegans would be worried about the possiblity?

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-sex-please-i-m-a-vegan/415428/50 "2007-08-16T13:09:24Z")

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[QUOTE=zelie zelerton]  
I’m sure the cat was fine and in that case I don’t see a problem with supplying vegan food. Its not as though cats are dependent on humans for food - don’t forget they are excellent hunters and will supplement the vegan foods with their natural prey.  
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Not if they never get outside.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2007, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-sex-please-i-m-a-vegan/415428/51 "2007-08-16T23:17:47Z")

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Heh.

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**Author:** ![dublos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f08c70/32.png) [@dublos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dublos)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-sex-please-i-m-a-vegan/415428/52 "2007-08-17T02:13:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Vinyl Turnip]  
My single anecdote involves a vegan friend of mine \<snip\> “adopted” an apparent stray cat who’d begun hanging around their doorstep and began feeding it vegan cat food.

\< snippity snip\>  
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Cats are carnivorous, not omnivorous. they absolutely cannot thrive on a vegan diet, and by feeding it to the cat they are shortening it’s life.

In general, vets say no.. even those who were/are vegans

> **[Dr. Jean Hofve is an expert in holistic cat & dog health, nutrition, and...](https://littlebigcat.com/?action=library&act=show&item=vegetariancats)**
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> Veterinarian Dr Jean is an expert in holistic dog & cat health and nutrition. She wants to help you give your furry friend the best possible life.

And even those who do advocate it indicate that it’s not going to work in all cases

[http://happypets.addr.com/vegpets.htm](http://happypets.addr.com/vegpets.htm)

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> Most dogs’ and cats’ do well on a vegetarian diet, but occasionally an animal may not thrive, so use common sense if this occurs.

[http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/extraordinary\_animals/117659](http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/extraordinary_animals/117659)

And of course nothing at all will stop your cat from devouring bugs, mice and any other prey species it finds in it’s domain.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-sex-please-i-m-a-vegan/415428/53 "2007-08-17T14:09:18Z")

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For a few years I dated a person who would not have sex with meat eaters.

Essentially she is a vegan fanatic. Just think religous fanatic, and swap in vegan.

It was a bit annoying in general, but the only time it was actually dangerous was when she was driving my suv and trailer on a highway when we were passed by a vehicle with a dead deer tied to the roof. She covered her eyes with both hands and started screaming, leaving me to reach over and steer.

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