# No Smoking In a Cigar Bar?!?!?!?!?!?!?! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 1, 2002, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-smoking-in-a-cigar-bar/134836 "2002-11-01T14:03:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![rexnervous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9c0ed/32.png) [@rexnervous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rexnervous)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2002, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-smoking-in-a-cigar-bar/134836/21 "2002-11-02T05:41:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by LolaCocaCola \* > \*\* > > They’re over $7 a pack here! \*\* :eek: Where the heck do you live??? Can’t you get, like, heroin cheaper than that? ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2002, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-smoking-in-a-cigar-bar/134836/22 "2002-11-02T13:03:37Z")
If I had to guess, I’d say LolaCocaCola lives in or near New York City. ---
**Author:** ![Pabitel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bbce88/32.png) [@Pabitel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pabitel)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2002, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-smoking-in-a-cigar-bar/134836/23 "2002-11-04T13:21:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bricker \* > \*\*Degrance: > > While your nifty analogy might carry some force for the ordinary bar, airport lobby, or even hotel room… how does it translate to the OP’s mention of cigar bars? > > - Rick \*\* Thank you very much but if you reread my post I think I made it clear that I was not replying to the OP but to the statement that regulating smoking in public would be comparable to regulating fatty foods and alcohol. The difference of course is that I can be in the room where you eat fatty foods without being force fed fatty foods. I can be in a room where alcohol is being drunk without being forced to imbibe. I cannot be in a room where someone is smoking without being forced to inhale the smoke. Sorry I thought I was clear the first time by quoting the remark I was replying to. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2002, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-smoking-in-a-cigar-bar/134836/24 "2002-11-04T14:50:35Z")
My apologies for my misapprehension. ---
**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2002, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-smoking-in-a-cigar-bar/134836/25 "2002-11-05T17:44:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mister Damage \* > \*\ ***Bricker** , in defense of **Degrance** , he/she was not talking about the OP, but was explicitly referring to the complaint made by **Winston Smith** , as was made clear by their quote: Since **Winston Smith** was specifically complaining about the laws in MA, not the laws in NYC, **Degrance** inferred, as do I, that **Winston Smith** objects to all such laws, not just the specific example of Bloomberg and the cigar bars. FTR, I agree that the notion of applying these laws to cigar bars, as per the OP’s comments about Michael Bloomberg **IS** absurd. Anyone going into or applying for work at a cigar bar does so knowing that the entire purpose of the place revolves around smoking. I think Bloomberg is an ass for not realizing this. But to compare second-hand smoke laws to banning the consumption of fatty foods or alcohol is disingenuous. The latter are examples of the notion of a “nanny state” run amok. On the other hand, second-hand smoke laws AS A RULE are not about protecting people from themselves – they’re about protecting people from detrimental health effects from smoking by others. You’re still free to smoke, just not around unwilling victims. \*\* [/QUOTE] [flame] If business owners want to cater to non-smokers only, that’s their business. Not yours. If you choose not to frequent a resteraunt because they allow smoking, that’s your problem, not mine. Do the noble thing and get take-out. Or better yet, stay home and starve. We need free thinkers to evolve. Not a bunch of Drone Bees. I know my hot cofee is hot. I know smoking is bad for me. I know the Superman costume will not enable me to fly. I know fast food will clog my arteries and make me fat. I don’t need you making laws about it. We already have more than enough laws. Comparing anti-smoking laws to banning consumption of fatty foods is certainly not “disingenuous”. And “nanny state”? Not on my watch, bub. What you are defending as “Protecting The Innocent” is a perfect example of the political left’s dream - a huge beurocracy of lawmakers and governers restricting everything they deem “dangerous”, based not on the “Publics Best Interest” as they claim, but on their own self-interests - power, money, lobbying strength, and more power, coupled with a bunch of Sheep and Manufactured Criminals that swallow everything they serve up. Please don’t try to speak for me or sum up my position. Ever. [/flame]😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-smoking-in-a-cigar-bar/134836.md?page=1)