# No, Snopes in NOT a left-wing extremist website supported by George Soros!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 7, 2015, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-snopes-in-not-a-left-wing-extremist-website-supported-by-george-soros/727217 "2015-08-07T05:40:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-snopes-in-not-a-left-wing-extremist-website-supported-by-george-soros/727217/41 "2015-08-07T19:18:52Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> > [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> > IIRC, the adage _“Reality has a liberal bias”_ dates back to the first Shrub administration.
> 
> That’s a Colbert coinage.

_The Daily Show_ said something very much of the sort a few years earlier.

> [@](#):
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> Rob Corddry: How does one report the facts in an unbiased way when the facts themselves are biased?
> 
> Jon Stewart: I’m sorry, Rob, did you say the facts are biased?
> 
> RC: That’s right, Jon. From the names of our fallen soldiers, to the gradual withdrawal of our allies, to the growing insurgency, it’s become all too clear that facts in Iraq have an anti-Bush agenda.

But I’m sure it didn’t originate there either.

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**Author:** ![OffByOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/45deac/32.png) [@OffByOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OffByOne)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-snopes-in-not-a-left-wing-extremist-website-supported-by-george-soros/727217/42 "2015-08-07T19:35:39Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> [Fact-checkers are commies.](http://paulryangosling.tumblr.com/post/30665397609/and-fact-checkers-are-communists)

Fact-chuckers are Republican.

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**Author:** ![OffByOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/45deac/32.png) [@OffByOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OffByOne)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-snopes-in-not-a-left-wing-extremist-website-supported-by-george-soros/727217/43 "2015-08-07T19:41:39Z")

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I have seen Facebook postings that are accompanied by, “Snopes says it’s true!”

I love to post the link to the Snopes article that clearly proves the poster was either lying or too lazy to check for himself.

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**Author:** ![elninost0rm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ed655f/32.png) [@elninost0rm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elninost0rm)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-snopes-in-not-a-left-wing-extremist-website-supported-by-george-soros/727217/44 "2015-08-07T19:53:51Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> Of course. That’s how Conservapedia was born. I do have to wonder if anyone, outside of Schafly and a small contigent, actually takes Conservapedia seriously though. It’s just too off the wall.
> 
> I should add that Wikipedia is a perfect example of what I’m talking about. Because it’s factual, it’s labeled left-wing.

Speaking of Conservapedia, there are far too many amazing examples to list, but I loved this paragraph under “Education”:

In 1971, at age 10, Barack Obama moved to Hawaii, and his grandparents helped him gain entrance to the prestigious Punahou Academy in Honolulu where he began substance abuse and illegal drugs.[34] He was accepted through a scholarship for disadvantaged minorities while he was in 5th grade.[29] At this elite high school with 1,200 students he was just 1 of 3 black students, and couldn’t make the starting lineup of the state champion basketball team his senior year. He wrote a poem for the school’s literary magazine, Ka Wai Ola.[30]

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-snopes-in-not-a-left-wing-extremist-website-supported-by-george-soros/727217/45 "2015-08-07T20:16:20Z")

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> [@Master\_Wang-Ka](#):
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> Dude, I am right. I always am.
> 
> This is at least partly because I refuse to admit that I am wrong. BASIC in this is the inclination to discard facts that would challenge my worldview and/or opinion.
> 
> Since you disagree with me, you are wrong. Therefore, your pathetic, deluded “facts” are wrong, too. Therefore, your so called “cites” and “sources” range from “deluded rantings of wrongheaded individuals” to “evil propaganda perpetuated by the One World Conspiracy.”
> 
> Therefore, your facts are unfacts, and your cites and sources are bullshit.
> 
> Therefore, I win.
> 
> Simple, no?

TIL **Master Wang-KA** is either my FIL or can quote him verbatim. :eek:

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-snopes-in-not-a-left-wing-extremist-website-supported-by-george-soros/727217/46 "2015-08-07T20:21:49Z")

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> [@elninost0rm](#):
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> Speaking of Conservapedia, there are far too many amazing examples to list, but I loved this paragraph under “Education”:
> 
> In 1971, at age 10, Barack Obama moved to Hawaii, and his grandparents helped him gain entrance to the prestigious Punahou Academy in Honolulu where he began substance abuse and illegal drugs.[34] He was accepted through a scholarship for disadvantaged minorities while he was in 5th grade.[29] At this elite high school with 1,200 students he was just 1 of 3 black students, and couldn’t make the starting lineup of the state champion basketball team his senior year. He wrote a poem for the school’s literary magazine, Ka Wai Ola.[30]

A black student who couldn’t make the starting lineup on a basketball team? What a loser! 😛

This is just one example of the things that make me think that at least some of the posters there are actually covert liberals trying to make it look as ridiculous as possible.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-snopes-in-not-a-left-wing-extremist-website-supported-by-george-soros/727217/47 "2015-08-07T20:33:08Z")

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Given that the hallmark of modern American Conservatism is yearning for a past that never existed and being incredibly angry with a reality that isn’t what they want it to be, it is utterly unsurprising when they attack things that fail to conform to that made up reality.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-snopes-in-not-a-left-wing-extremist-website-supported-by-george-soros/727217/48 "2015-08-07T20:41:22Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> Of course. That’s how Conservapedia was born. I do have to wonder if anyone, outside of Schafly and a small contigent, actually takes Conservapedia seriously though. It’s just too off the wall.

I had high hopes for Conservapedia until they banned me for my factual and exhaustively-researched horticultural article titled ‘Potatoe’.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-snopes-in-not-a-left-wing-extremist-website-supported-by-george-soros/727217/49 "2015-08-07T20:41:48Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> A black student who couldn’t make the starting lineup on a basketball team? What a loser! 😛

Yeah, but he got into high school when he was ten, so it’s all good!

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-snopes-in-not-a-left-wing-extremist-website-supported-by-george-soros/727217/50 "2015-08-07T20:56:02Z")

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> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#):
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> I had high hopes for Conservapedia until they banned me for my factual and exhaustively-researched horticultural article titled ‘Potatoe’.

I can’t stop laughing at this!

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-snopes-in-not-a-left-wing-extremist-website-supported-by-george-soros/727217/51 "2015-08-07T21:46:33Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> How do we get through to people when they won’t accept factual sources?

Try mockery. Then get meta.

Personally, I’m an ultra-liberal. I think the best way to find out about the world is to apply the scientific method. Such techniques have provided us with computers, medicine and a sharply higher life expectancy. I know, I know: they are opposed by conservatives who veer towards post-rationality: I understand that. I opine that heat cause glaciers to melt: it isn’t a matter of emotions and feelings. Modern conserivatives disagree, as do folks who talk to themselves on the bus.

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**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-snopes-in-not-a-left-wing-extremist-website-supported-by-george-soros/727217/52 "2015-08-07T21:55:09Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> The proper response:
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> While apple seeds pose minimal threat, apricot and peach pits contain dangerous levels of amygdalin, and the only thing they’ll potentially remedy is living. They are especially dangerous to children, especially if chewed. Those telling you otherwise simply wish to see you dead.

I was about to ask if it really was dangerous following the post you’re responding to.

As a child, I loved to eat apricot seeds. Munched them of course. I was told it was poisonous, even though I doubt my grand mother (who raised me) knew they contained cyanide. i would learn that much later.

Did I really barely escape death, or is that a bit exagerated? I’ve no clue how many seeds I was ingesting, but I would assume I can’t have eaten more than 10 in a day, you don’t eat that many apricots. So, was that actually a risk, or would you need to eat a massively larger quantity of apricot seeds for it to become a significant risk?

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-snopes-in-not-a-left-wing-extremist-website-supported-by-george-soros/727217/53 "2015-08-07T22:12:28Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> Try mockery. Then get meta.  
> …

I think I just managed to get through to him. He posted a couple of right-wing memes that are floating around the net. I responded to each of them with a link showing that Snopes _confirmed_ them. His response: “Okay. I give”.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-snopes-in-not-a-left-wing-extremist-website-supported-by-george-soros/727217/54 "2015-08-07T22:49:38Z")

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> [@clairobscur](#):
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> I was about to ask if it really was dangerous following the post you’re responding to.
> 
> As a child, I loved to eat apricot seeds. Munched them of course. I was told it was poisonous, even though I doubt my grand mother (who raised me) knew they contained cyanide. i would learn that much later.
> 
> Did I really barely escape death, or is that a bit exagerated? I’ve no clue how many seeds I was ingesting, but I would assume I can’t have eaten more than 10 in a day, you don’t eat that many apricots. So, was that actually a risk, or would you need to eat a massively larger quantity of apricot seeds for it to become a significant risk?

[Cyanide poisoning caused by ingestion of apricot seeds.](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20196932)

> [@](#):
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> RESULTS:  
> Of the 13 patients, four were male. The mean time of onset of symptoms was 60 minutes (range 20 minutes to 3 hours). On admission, all patients underwent gastric lavage and received activated charcoal. In addition to signs of mild poisoning related to cyanide intoxication, there was severe intoxication requiring mechanical ventilation (in four cases), hypotension (in two), coma (in two) and convulsions (in one). Metabolic acidosis (lactic acidosis) was detected in nine patients and these were treated with sodium bicarbonate. Hyperglycaemia occurred in nine patients and blood glucose levels normalised spontaneously in six but three required insulin therapy for 3-6 hours. Six patients received antidote treatment: high-dose hydroxocobalamin in four and two were treated with a cyanide antidote kit in addition to high-dose hydroxocobalamin. One patient required anticonvulsive therapy. All patients recovered and were discharged from the PICU within a mean (SD, range) 3.1 (1.7, 2-6) days.

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**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-snopes-in-not-a-left-wing-extremist-website-supported-by-george-soros/727217/55 "2015-08-08T00:05:22Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> post-rationality

Stealing it.

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**Author:** ![syncrolecyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f08c70/32.png) [@syncrolecyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/syncrolecyne)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-snopes-in-not-a-left-wing-extremist-website-supported-by-george-soros/727217/56 "2015-08-08T20:42:40Z")

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As much as I love Snopes, its hard to see how any big money ever went to that site! Has it changed design since 1999?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-snopes-in-not-a-left-wing-extremist-website-supported-by-george-soros/727217/57 "2015-08-08T21:36:43Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> a cyanide fan

Well, who isn’t ?

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**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-snopes-in-not-a-left-wing-extremist-website-supported-by-george-soros/727217/58 "2015-08-08T22:20:28Z")

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davidm wrote: "I think I just managed to get through to him. He posted a couple of right-wing memes that are floating around the net. I responded to each of them with a link showing that Snopes confirmed them. His response: “Okay. I give”. "

Of course they’re going to confirm _some_ rightie memes. Because if they _didn’t_ that would be a dead giveaway of their liberal bias.

(Gosh, we can all argue like conservatives to make a point, but it’s kind of scary when you realize _they_ mean it.)

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-snopes-in-not-a-left-wing-extremist-website-supported-by-george-soros/727217/59 "2015-08-08T22:22:24Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> a cyanide fan

Their first album was awesome. Then they sold out.

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**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-snopes-in-not-a-left-wing-extremist-website-supported-by-george-soros/727217/60 "2015-08-08T23:53:08Z")

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> [@syncrolecyne](#):
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> As much as I love Snopes, its hard to see how any big money ever went to that site! Has it changed design since 1999?

Yes, and not for the better. The current design is terrible and a pain in the ass to navigate.

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