# No thanks, I'll take my chances with the psychopath.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 23, 2012, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135 "2012-07-23T14:22:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![kwimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@kwimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kwimby)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2012, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/501 "2012-08-12T03:07:00Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> What I’ve seen is a wide range of people, some with extensive military and/or police experience, a lot of them _very_ “pro-gun”, saying that you are basically full of shit. My suggestion? Put away the “Executioner/Stoney Man” gun-porno paperbacks, turn off whatever shoot-em-up game you’ve got playing on your X-Box, climb out of your parent’s basement, take a bath and go talk to a real girl. There’s still a couple of weeks of summer vacation left-go participate in some real life activities before school starts back up again.

From the fingers of a miscreant who has never discharged a firearm.

My previous response to you remains well supported. Bravo!

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2012, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/502 "2012-08-12T05:28:41Z")

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> [@kwimby](#):
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> From the fingers of a miscreant who has never discharged a firearm.
> 
> My previous response to you remains well supported. Bravo!

While I admit that I have shunned shoot-em-up games, from _Castle Wolfenstein_ to _Call Of Duty_, and I fully concede that you are probably my superior when it comes to winning great battles using “God Mode”, I grew up in Northern Idaho and was handling a Remington .30-06 rather well by the time I was 12. I’ve handled a pistol or two, and had a bit of training in the military with a standard M-16.

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**Author:** ![kwimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@kwimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kwimby)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2012, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/503 "2012-08-12T14:47:16Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> …you are probably my superior when it comes to winning great battles using “God Mode”, I grew up in Northern Idaho …

Could you _“be”_ more flippant?

Time for Gyro to kick one in now.

You fools are only demonstrating how “not” seriously you take this issue.

Nice job, keep up the good work!

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2012, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/504 "2012-08-12T16:18:08Z")

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> [@kwimby](#):
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> Could you _“be”_ more flippant?
> 
> Time for Gyro to kick one in now.
> 
> You fools are only demonstrating how “not” seriously you take this issue.
> 
> Nice job, keep up the good work!

You bore me.  
Buh bye.

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**Author:** ![kwimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@kwimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kwimby)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2012, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/505 "2012-08-13T00:16:54Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> You bore me.  
> Buh bye.

I’m sure you are bored as well as boring.

Go on and play with your dope friends in some other threads now little boy.

So just to recap: There is a good possibility that an armed response from a responsible theater goer could have delayed, deterred or even stopped Holmes resulting in a better outcome in the Aurora shooting. Also, there is a statistically insignificant possibility that simply “taking your chances with the psychopath” would result in anything different than what actually happened.

Logic. What a bitch, huh?

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2012, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/506 "2012-08-13T00:34:31Z")

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> [@kwimby](#):
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> I’m sure you are bored as well as boring.
> 
> Go on and play with your dope friends in some other threads now little boy.
> 
> So just to recap: There is a good possibility that an armed response from a responsible theater goer could have delayed, deterred or even stopped Holmes resulting in a better outcome in the Aurora shooting.

Nope. Never happen. You’re an idiot.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2012, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/507 "2012-08-13T00:41:55Z")

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Apparently “Kwimby” is trolling at least one gun forum, where he’s openly called a troll, a sock puppet, etc. Same big talking behavior over there too.

You know, “Kwimby” is listed as a variant spelling of Quimby in the Urban Dictionary, which is defined as “To make a fool of oneself unintentionally”.

And really Kwimby, you got nothing. Full of noise and fury, signifying nothing.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2012, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/508 "2012-08-13T02:40:29Z")

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> [@kwimby](#):
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> I’m sure you are bored as well as boring.

You’re managing to bore us, that much is true.

> [@](#):
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> . . . There is a good possibility that an armed response from a responsible theater goer could have delayed, deterred or even stopped Holmes resulting in a better outcome in the Aurora shooting.

As has been noted over and over, no, there isn’t. You’d have two people shooting in a crowded theater. Or three. Or eight. There would be no possible way to tell the “good” shooters from the “bad” shooters. They would have no way to know not to target each other. The scenario simply deteriorates into violent chaos.

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> Also, there is a statistically insignificant possibility that simply “taking your chances with the psychopath” would result in anything different than what actually happened.

Possibly so. That’s why we say, we’ll take our chances with the psychopath. As bad as it was, what you are imagining would be worse.

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> Logic. What a bitch, huh?

Let us know when you learn some.

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**Author:** ![kwimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@kwimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kwimby)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2012, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/509 "2012-08-13T03:44:09Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> That’s why we say, we’ll take our chances with the psychopath.

Good luck with that.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2012, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/510 "2012-08-13T03:46:34Z")

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Since my odds of being shot in one of these kinds of massacres is much much less than my odds of winning the lottery, ‘good luck with that’ is quite suitable with me, thank you.

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**Author:** ![kwimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@kwimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kwimby)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2012, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/511 "2012-08-13T04:18:41Z")

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Yeah, it’s kinda like the grain of sand on a beach thing.

I like the black sand beaches.

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**Author:** ![Docta\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Docta\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Docta_G)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2012, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/512 "2012-08-13T06:24:12Z")

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> [@black\_rabbit](#):
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> Dear guy I work with, cousin, dude from the bar, friend of a friend, Louie Gohmert, and every other gun toting pussy who seems to think that they could have taken out the Aurora shooter with their ersatz penis:
> 
> No, you couldn’t have. The theater was dark. The dude was wearing body armor. People were running all over the place.
> 
> If there’s more than one of you goobers in the theater, it’s just as likely that you’re going to start taking shots at _each other_ as taking shots at the shooter.
> 
> Your skill at Counterstrike and/or your experience peeling potatoes and pounding a daily twelve pack in the Army do not qualify you to engage in a shootout in a room full of several hundred panicking civilians.
> 
> You’re more dangerous to the rest of us than you will likely ever be to an armed psychopath. I know the idea of getting to kill an honest to goodness Bad Guy gives you a tremendous boner, but please shut the fuck up about it already, you fucking menace.

Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Docta\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Docta\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Docta_G)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2012, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/513 "2012-08-13T06:26:08Z")

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> [@kwimby](#):
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> I’m sure you are bored as well as boring.
> 
> Go on and play with your dope friends in some other threads now little boy.
> 
> So just to recap: There is a good possibility that an armed response from a responsible theater goer could have delayed, deterred or even stopped Holmes resulting in a better outcome in the Aurora shooting. Also, there is a statistically insignificant possibility that simply “taking your chances with the psychopath” would result in anything different than what actually happened.
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> Logic. What a bitch, huh?

You’re a fucking idiot. BTW, I’m a logician.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2012, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/514 "2012-08-13T11:55:56Z")

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> [@Docta\_G](#):
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> You’re a fucking idiot. BTW, I’m a logician.

It does follow logically from his posts.

> [@kwimbo](#):
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> So just to recap: There is a good possibility that an armed response from a responsible theater goer could have delayed, deterred or even stopped Holmes resulting in a better outcome in the Aurora shooting. Also, there is a statistically insignificant possibility that simply “taking your chances with the psychopath” would result in anything different than what actually happened.

> [@same idiot earlier in the thread](#):
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> There’s no way for him or anybody else who wasn’t there to know that.

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**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2012, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/515 "2012-08-13T16:48:14Z")

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He’s all a kwim and aquiver.

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**Author:** ![Freakenstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b782af/32.png) [@Freakenstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freakenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2012, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/516 "2012-08-13T18:32:40Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> You bore me.  
> Buh bye.

Don’t be discouraged, people. As long as You keep Kwimby here, he’s not out in the streets.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2012, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/517 "2012-08-13T19:24:57Z")

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> [@Freakenstein](#):
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> Don’t be discouraged, people. As long as You keep Kwimby here, he’s not out in the streets.

Nowadays with smart phones, that’s not necessarily true. He could be out there posting while driving or swearing at random strangers after he walks into them while posting.

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**Author:** ![kwimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@kwimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kwimby)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/518 "2012-08-14T01:03:53Z")

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> [@Tell me about your shoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-your-shoes/77556/71):
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> BTW, I’m a logician.

So then in this context, that makes you my bitch!

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**Author:** ![Freakenstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b782af/32.png) [@Freakenstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freakenstein)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/519 "2012-08-14T07:48:36Z")

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> [@ExTank](#):
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> The last time I looked these stats up, the murder rate among black males living in inner-city zones was around 33/100,000.
> 
> The murder rate amongst white males in the same demo was comparable to England, Germany, France, etc; all those Euro countries gun control advocates wished we resembled more.
> 
> IIRC, the safest demographic was black females. They’re not killing hardly anyone, much less themselves. Their stats make those European countries look like a war zone.

Nice, forged statistics to back up Your point.  
Do You realize that the percentage of blacks in Europe is quite low and that the poor and uneducated people in slums here are white too.  
But to make things easier, let’s just drop away all the cases where criminals are killing criminals ( 'cause most of Us don’t do slumming, I think ). And let’s concentrate on cases where some psycho starts shooting a random crowd ( 'cause We’ve all been in a public place ).

Do You really think that Europe is just as bad as U.S. - or even worse?

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**Author:** ![Docta\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Docta\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Docta_G)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/520 "2012-08-14T17:09:56Z")

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> [@kwimby](#):
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> So then in this context, that makes you my bitch!

No, I can shoot better than you too.

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