# No thanks, I'll take my chances with the psychopath. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 23, 2012, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135 "2012-07-23T14:22:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/521 "2012-08-14T18:13:19Z")
> [@Freakenstein](#): > > And let’s concentrate on cases where some psycho starts shooting a random crowd ( 'cause We’ve all been in a public place ). > > Do You really think that Europe is just as bad as U.S. - or even worse? Norway seems to have something in the news recently, as I recall. Pretty big deal. As for recent things, news begets news. One event happens and people copy it. If there was big huge news event about someone assaulting people in malls with a sledgehammer, within a month there would be five similar events. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/522 "2012-08-14T18:17:00Z")
The United States has had something like 50 or 60 mass shootings in the last 30 years. Norway needs to step it up if they’re going to hang with the big boys. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/523 "2012-08-14T19:40:41Z")
Their population is less than 5 million. Ours is 320 million, or over 65 times larger. So it sounds about even to me. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/524 "2012-08-14T19:56:01Z")
India’s population is about 1.2 billion - that’s almost four times the population of the United States. I’ll just go ahead and assume they’ve had about 200 mass shootings in the last 30 years — you know, just to keep things even. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/525 "2012-08-14T20:23:06Z")
The Intentional Homicide rate in India is much much closer to that of the USA than it is to Europe. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/526 "2012-08-14T20:29:49Z")
So then, not four times as much – with guns – which is what we are talking about? Say, maybe if there were more guns in India, they could really shine and reach that 200 mark, huh? Something to shoot for anyway (no pun intended). ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/527 "2012-08-14T21:04:07Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > So then, not four times as much – with guns – which is what we are talking about? > > Say, maybe if there were more guns in India, they could really shine and reach that 200 mark, huh? Something to shoot for anyway (no pun intended). Nah, I think their crazies would stick to what they do now, which is bomb shit. Since you insist on comparing apples and grapefruits here, I’d like to point out that in Mumbai alone there have been 15 bombings in the past ten years. Say, maybe if there were more bomb materials in the US, the US could really shine and and reach that 1.5 bombings annually mark, huh? I sure am glad we can’t get bomb materials in the US Mumbai: 12 March 1993 - Series of 13 bombs go off, killing 257 6 December 2002 - Bomb goes off in a bus in Ghatkopar, killing 2 27 January 2003 - Bomb goes off on a bicycle in Vile Parle, killing 1 14 March 2003 - Bomb goes off in a train in Mulund, killing 10 28 July 2003 - Bomb goes off in a bus in Ghatkopar, killing 4 25 August 2003 - Two Bombs go off in cars near the Gateway of India and Zaveri Bazaar, killing 50 11 July 2006 - Series of seven bombs go off in trains, killing 209 26 November 2008 to 29 November 2008 - Coordinated series of attacks, killing at least 172. 13 July 2011 - Three coordinated bomb explosions at different locations, killing 26 Pune: 13 February 2010 - a bomb explosion at the German Bakery in Pune killed fourteen people, and injured at least 60 more 1 August 2012 - four bomb explosion at various locations on JM Road, Pune injured 1 person New Delhi: 29 October 2005: 60 dead 14 Feb 2011: 12 dead Varanasi: 7 March 2006: 15 dead 7 December 2010: 1 toddler ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/528 "2012-08-14T21:30:53Z")
Sorry, screwed that up. It’s fifteen total, eight in Mumbai alone. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/529 "2012-08-15T02:04:49Z")
Let’s not forget Acid Attacks. Not something that really happens in the USA. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/530 "2012-08-15T03:27:41Z")
> [@Docta\_G](#): > > You’re a fucking idiot. BTW, I’m a logician. While I agree with your position completely. That last sentence is ‘my dick is 18’ long! and I have a 7th degree black belt’ stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/531 "2012-08-15T04:24:02Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > While I agree with your position completely. That last sentence is ‘my dick is 18’ long! and I have a 7th degree black belt’ stupid. Nah, if someone is bragging about using their Logic Skillz and a real logician smacks them down, it’s just sweet justice. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/532 "2012-08-15T10:50:56Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Let’s not forget Acid Attacks. Not something that really happens in the USA. Remember: acid doesn’t scar and blind people, _people_ scar and blind people. This message brought to you by the National Acid Association. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/533 "2012-08-15T13:02:00Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Norway seems to have something in the news recently, as I recall. 0.6 murders per 100k inhabitants ([intentional homicide rate](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate)). Note, I’ve never advocated just comparing mass murders, as that’d be susceptible to the spotlight fallacy. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/534 "2012-08-15T13:15:06Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > Nah, I think their crazies would stick to what they do now, which is bomb shit. Since you insist on comparing apples and grapefruits here … I’m not the one who tied national population to gun violence; that was **Chimera**. He compared the ratio of the population between the US and Norway to the ratio of shootings in the two countries, saying “that’s sounds about even to me.” It doesn’t sound so even when we look at countries with larger populations than the US, though does it? No, that’s when apples, grapefruits and acid attacks get bandied about. ---
**Author:** ![kwimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@kwimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kwimby)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/535 "2012-08-15T17:01:24Z")
I’ll agree there’s always going to be bat shit crazy mutherfuckers out there all over world doing what they do best: kill people. The sheeple are more than welcome to take their chances. No thanks. ---
**Author:** ![DrumBum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e79b87/32.png) [@DrumBum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrumBum)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/536 "2012-08-15T17:08:13Z")
> [@kwimby](#): > > Hot Diddley Damn, just in time for another election… Knowing what a stud **kwimby** seems to be, I thought he meant “erection.” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/537 "2012-08-15T17:08:54Z")
Yes. We know. Your giant cock, true aim, and preternatural sense of Unagi will save the day. Give it a fucking rest. ---
**Author:** ![pikey\_pete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pikey\_pete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pikey_pete)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/538 "2012-08-16T05:17:45Z")
ok, it’s late, i’ve had a rough day, and after page 5, i got tired of reading. Here is my input as a legal concealed carry license holder: I would not have shot. Fuck, in that kind of chaos you would have to be a complete fucking moron to start shooting. I’m a journalist who has embedded with the military numerous times. Buddies of mine in JSOC have said the same thing. They wouldn’t have started returning fire either. there is too much of a chance of hitting an innocent bystander. Also, I live in an apartment. My gun is loaded with bullets called Glazer Safety Slugs. They are 99% lethal on the first shot, but won’t penetrate two layers of sheetrock. Not all gun owners have a need for a metapenis (granted we are few and far between,) nor all of us bloodlusting rambo wannabes. Gohmert, though, is most definitely a dipshit and an asshole. A final thought: not all Texans are wild west, gun slinging, rabid morons, but this is the rodeo buckle of the bible belt. Please, let a Texan speak before you decide he is some kind of inbred dipshit with a six shooter. Those just tend to be the people who can afford to get elected. ---
**Author:** ![pikey\_pete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pikey\_pete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pikey_pete)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/539 "2012-08-16T05:23:27Z")
another thought: concealed carry licenses should require a test to make sure you aren’t a flaming dipshit who is looking for fucking glory. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thanks-ill-take-my-chances-with-the-psychopath/629135/540 "2012-08-16T08:38:50Z")
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