# No thread on Trump and golden showers?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 11, 2017, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thread-on-trump-and-golden-showers/776850 "2017-01-11T02:41:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thread-on-trump-and-golden-showers/776850/1 "2017-01-11T02:41:27Z")

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[CNN Story on possibly compromising information the Russians have gathered on Trump](http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/index.html)

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> Some of the memos were circulating as far back as last summer. What has changed since then is that US intelligence agencies have now checked out the former British intelligence operative and his vast network throughout Europe and find him and his sources to be credible enough to include some of the information in the presentations to the President and President-elect a few days ago.

[A Buzzfeed report](https://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinger/these-reports-allege-trump-has-deep-ties-to-russia?utm_term=.uaek7PNMwl#.njo9Lb1kJ6) relates:

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> A dossier making explosive — but unverified — allegations that the Russian government has been “cultivating, supporting and assisting” President-elect Donald Trump for years and gained compromising information about him has been circulating among elected officials, intelligence agents, and journalists for weeks.
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> The dossier, which is a collection of memos written over a period of months, includes specific, unverified, and potentially unverifiable allegations of contact between Trump aides and Russian operatives, and graphic claims of sexual acts documented by the Russians. CNN reported Tuesday that a two-page synopsis of the report was given to President Obama and Trump.

The details supposedly involve golden showers from Russian prostitutes at the Ritz in Moscow.

What fun. I bet Trump will pissed on Twitter.

Seriously, let’s hope this disclosure immunizes him from blackmail.

It does bring a whole new meaning to wikileaks.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thread-on-trump-and-golden-showers/776850/2 "2017-01-11T02:52:39Z")

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Well, Trump _does_ have an obsession with gold colored things. I guess regular showers just aren’t good enough for him.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thread-on-trump-and-golden-showers/776850/3 "2017-01-11T02:54:32Z")

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Concurrent [thread in Elections forum](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=815976).

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thread-on-trump-and-golden-showers/776850/4 "2017-01-11T02:54:38Z")

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It’s being discussed in the [del]Trump Pit Forum[/del] Elections Forum.

Don’t get your hopes up. He was allegedly an observer, not a participant. Supposedly done in a bed slept in by President Blackenstein as a gesture of [un]respect.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thread-on-trump-and-golden-showers/776850/5 "2017-01-11T03:00:15Z")

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When I first read this story (absent details about alleged golden showers) I was curious as to what it might be that the Russians could have that was “blackmail material”. After all, we are talking about someone who just won an election despite a mountain of scandalous conduct that doesn’t seem to worry his supporters one bit.

So if this rumour is right, the “blackmail material” is evidence that Trump engaged in kinky sex. Yawn. You could play the video on national television and it would result in a wave of indignation, a lot of comedy material and nothing more.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thread-on-trump-and-golden-showers/776850/6 "2017-01-11T03:03:36Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> When I first read this story (absent details about alleged golden showers) I was curious as to what it might be that the Russians could have that was “blackmail material”. After all, we are talking about someone who just won an election despite a mountain of scandalous conduct that doesn’t seem to worry his supporters one bit.
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> So if this rumour is right, the “blackmail material” is evidence that Trump engaged in kinky sex. Yawn. You could play the video on national television and it would result in a wave of indignation, a lot of comedy material and nothing more.

That’s just one thing. It’s 35 pages of stuff. And despite being released as “breaking news”, it appears to have been around for months.

But yeah, it’s hard to blackmail a guy who has no shame.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thread-on-trump-and-golden-showers/776850/7 "2017-01-11T03:04:52Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> So if this rumour is right, the “blackmail material” is evidence that Trump engaged in kinky sex. Yawn.

Well, no. If you read the actual “report” (of whose veracity I am distinctly skeptical, btw), you’ll see references to lots of other accusations including engaging in bribery on business trips to China.

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**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thread-on-trump-and-golden-showers/776850/8 "2017-01-11T03:48:32Z")

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It isn’t going to matter. The non-gullible among us already know he’s garbage, this is just one more thing to toss on the heap. Trump will deny it, comedians will make fun of it, his supporters will spout the usual round of cognitive dissonance that passes for excuses and ignore it.

Trump could rape an entire litter of kittens on stage and blame Obama while he’s doing it and the idiots who support him would genuinely think it was Obama’s fault. So it was with Bush, so it will be with this orange dickmuppet. It doesn’t matter who’s president, it’s the ignorant-and-proud-of-it shitheads who think that the republicans can do no wrong that make this happen.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thread-on-trump-and-golden-showers/776850/9 "2017-01-11T04:18:13Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> … other accusations including engaging in bribery on business trips to China.

Everyone knows you have to do that in China. Smart.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thread-on-trump-and-golden-showers/776850/10 "2017-01-11T04:21:56Z")

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> [@hotflungwok](#):
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> It isn’t going to matter. The non-gullible among us already know he’s garbage, . . .

Doesn’t matter. Just keep bringing it up over and over in every political argument.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thread-on-trump-and-golden-showers/776850/11 "2017-01-11T04:25:06Z")

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The Trump supporters who don’t reject this as “fake news” will just hand-wave it away.

Russian prostitutes?

Well, the culture is different over there. Prostitution is probably legal there. Everyone probably does it. Trump was just respecting another culture’s customs.

Even if it’s not legal, it was still consensual. And Melania probably signed-off on the whole thing because she understands the pressures he’s under. She’s classy like that. Not like that ball-busting gorilla Michelle.

True, it’s kind of messed up. But at least he was supporting their economy. Those poor whores need every ruble they can get. Trump was just doing his part to make Russia great again, like a patriotic American should.

Urine is gross, sure. But it’s sterile! A golden shower never hurt anyone.

And most importantly, this happened in the past. Doesn’t matter if it happened a few months ago or a few years ago. The past is the past. I’m sure Jesus has already delivered Trump from this harmless vice, just like he’s done with all his other problems. Trump doesn’t even have to apologize because I already know his heart. He’s a good man, unlike that ISIS-lovin’ Obama.

And let’s not forget about that harlot Hillary in all of this. She was having a lesbian golden shower party with illegal aliens when Bengazi was going down, but you don’t hear the lamestream media talking about that, do you?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thread-on-trump-and-golden-showers/776850/12 "2017-01-11T04:51:00Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> The Trump supporters who don’t reject this as “fake news” will just hand-wave it away.
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> Russian prostitutes?
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> Well, the culture is different over there. Prostitution is probably legal there. Everyone probably does it. Trump was just respecting another culture’s customs.
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> Even if it’s not legal, it was still consensual. And Melania probably signed-off on the whole thing because she understands the pressures he’s under. She’s classy like that. Not like that ball-busting gorilla Michelle.
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> True, it’s kind of messed up. But at least he was supporting their economy. Those poor whores need every ruble they can get. Trump was just doing his part to make Russia great again, like a patriotic American should.
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> Urine is gross, sure. But it’s sterile! A golden shower never hurt anyone.
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> And most importantly, this happened in the past. Doesn’t matter if it happened a few months ago or a few years ago. The past is the past. I’m sure Jesus has already delivered Trump from this harmless vice, just like he’s done with all his other problems. Trump doesn’t even have to apologize because I already know his heart. He’s a good man, unlike that ISIS-lovin’ Obama.
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> And let’s not forget about that harlot Hillary in all of this. She was having a lesbian golden shower party with illegal aliens when Bengazi was going down, but you don’t hear the lamestream media talking about that, do you?

Just to be clear, you’re claiming you know that this news story is true?

You might want to wander over to the thread in Elections and read more about it. Just sayin’.

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**Author:** ![OwnRules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea666f/32.png) [@OwnRules](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OwnRules)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thread-on-trump-and-golden-showers/776850/13 "2017-01-11T04:53:20Z")

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Carl Bernstein delivers again: Goldengate.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thread-on-trump-and-golden-showers/776850/14 "2017-01-11T06:04:19Z")

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So Comey is like a really bad bad person.

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**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thread-on-trump-and-golden-showers/776850/15 "2017-01-11T08:56:51Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Well, Trump _does_ have an obsession with gold colored things. I guess regular showers just aren’t good enough for him.

Whistler: _Your Highness, you are like a stream of bat’s piss._  
Prince: \* What?! \*  
Whistler: \* It was one of Wilde’s. One of Wilde’s. \*  
Oscar: \*It sodding was not! It was Shaw! \*  
Shaw: _I… I merely meant, Your Majesty, that you shine out like a shaft of gold when all around is dark._

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thread-on-trump-and-golden-showers/776850/16 "2017-01-11T12:41:58Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Just to be clear, you’re claiming you know that this news story is true?
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> You might want to wander over to the thread in Elections and read more about it. Just sayin’.

Just sayin’ what? And why would you infer from my post that I’m claiming anything?

The story sounds crazy, sure. But then again Trump is a crazy mo-fo. Anything is possible when you’ve got a crazy mofo as the president-elect.

But Trump could announce today it’s all true, and his supporters would still be in lock-step behind him because “it’s time for us to move on” and “HILLARY EMAILS BENGAZI PIZZAGATE.”

Just to be clear, are you claiming this wouldn’t happen?

You might want to open up any Trump thread on this message board and read what some people are posting. Just sayin’.

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**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thread-on-trump-and-golden-showers/776850/17 "2017-01-11T13:19:57Z")

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Urine trouble now!

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thread-on-trump-and-golden-showers/776850/18 "2017-01-11T13:40:17Z")

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The SDMB: The Most Gullible Skeptics on the Internet.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thread-on-trump-and-golden-showers/776850/19 "2017-01-11T13:46:44Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> The SDMB: The Most Gullible Skeptics on the Internet.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

I see a lot of hoping that it’s true, and a lot of mocking, but not too much actual gullibility on this from my fellow Dopers. Yet, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-thread-on-trump-and-golden-showers/776850/20 "2017-01-11T14:44:41Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> So if this rumour is right, the “blackmail material” is evidence that Trump engaged in kinky sex. Yawn. You could play the video on national television and it would result in a wave of indignation, a lot of comedy material and nothing more.

There’s an old joke about the wily Commies getting footage of a young, handsome US President banging away at three women. When they show it to him, he asks for a copy “…because the folks at home will be \*so \*impressed.”

That used to be funny.

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