# No trolls left behind

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trolls-left-behind/608868>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 8, 2012, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trolls-left-behind/608868 "2012-01-08T23:56:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trolls-left-behind/608868/121 "2012-01-10T08:15:27Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Pop quiz, Hotshot. If the bus gets 4 miles per gallon of diesel fuel and the tank holds 50 gallons, how far can you drive at 50 miles per hour before the bus blows up and everybody dies? 😃

Depends. Am I in Colorado or Tel Aviv?

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**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trolls-left-behind/608868/122 "2012-01-10T12:38:18Z")

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> [@saoirse](#):
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> You can’t really be this stupid, right? Name a country where slavery is legal. Show me an individual who has been mortgaged. Show me a shipping manifest that includes slaves as cargo. What you’re talking about are kidnap victims.
> 
> But of course, you’re not that stupid. You’re just a fairly unimaginative tool parroting the standard neo-confederate talking points to derail any discussion of slavery in the US. If you’re so concerned about human trafficking, why aren’t you posting in threads about that? Why are you posting at all, instead of rescuing Bangladeshis trapped in remote work camps?

Very strange post.

You seem determined to convince yourself that slavery no longer exists.

Also I find it a little bizarre that you think that trying to help people who ARE ALIVE RIGHT THIS INSTANT to escape slavery, is some sort of convoluted tactic being used for reasons that would appear to be only in your head.

Try and find a little compassion for those who are suffering, instead of playing politics with other peoples lives.

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**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trolls-left-behind/608868/123 "2012-01-10T13:02:12Z")

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> [@Lust4Life](#):
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> Very strange post.
> 
> You seem determined to convince yourself that slavery no longer exists.

Because it doesn’t. Kidnap victims exist. Slavery is outlawed everywhere. Incidentally, your figure of 27 million people in bondage would not be the most slaves in history. Sixty percent of people in Europe were not free in the middle ages, plus the Americas, China, India, etc.

> [@](#):
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> Also I find it a little bizarre that you think that trying to help people who ARE ALIVE RIGHT THIS INSTANT to escape slavery, is some sort of convoluted tactic being used for reasons that would appear to be only in your head.

you are not trying to help anyone, troll. Start another thread; those people have nothing to do with slavery. Anyway, I’m done with you.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trolls-left-behind/608868/124 "2012-01-10T13:16:19Z")

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When I was in eighth-grade English, we were diagramming sentences (do they do that anymore?) and one of the sentences concerned “woolly-headed natives” I thought that was odd and racist, and that was in the 60’s.

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trolls-left-behind/608868/125 "2012-01-10T13:20:06Z")

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> [@saoirse](#):
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> Because it doesn’t. Kidnap victims exist. Slavery is outlawed everywhere.

Slavery is illegal, ergo it doesn’t exist. Gotcha. If only we could do the same thing with murder, rape, incest…hey, not to mention your own example, kidnapping! Maybe we should pass a bill.

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**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trolls-left-behind/608868/126 "2012-01-10T16:15:35Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> When I was in eighth-grade English, we were diagramming sentences (do they do that anymore?) and one of the sentences concerned “woolly-headed natives” I thought that was odd and racist, and that was in the 60’s.

That’s one of those things like “niggardly” that looks racist but isn’t. Woolly-headed refers to having a head stuffed with wool (i.e., stupid) rather than to hair.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trolls-left-behind/608868/127 "2012-01-10T16:25:58Z")

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> [@sh1bu1](#):
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> That’s one of those things like “niggardly” that looks racist but isn’t. Woolly-headed refers to having a head stuffed with wool (i.e., stupid) rather than to hair.

“Woolly-headed” also literally means having hair that is wool-like in quality.

Under either definition, the usage is eyebrow-raising for more modern sensibilities.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trolls-left-behind/608868/128 "2012-01-10T17:21:24Z")

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> [@sh1bu1](#):
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> That’s one of those things like “niggardly” that looks racist but isn’t. Woolly-headed refers to having a head stuffed with wool (i.e., stupid) rather than to hair.

No, you would have to see the context. The sentence was about the activities of wild savages, as in the jungle.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trolls-left-behind/608868/129 "2012-01-10T17:47:38Z")

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“2. If it takes five seconds to jump down and three seconds to turn around…”

There’s no way to make elementary math questions about slavery anything other than callous.

> [@Acsenray](#):
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> “Woolly-headed” also literally means having hair that is wool-like in quality.
> 
> Under either definition, the usage is eyebrow-raising for more modern sensibilities.

Wow. I’ve probably seen Elf more than a dozen times, and I like to see myself as just shy of a bleeding heart liberal… and I never, ever made any especially negative connection to “cotton headed ninny muggins”. I certainly never raised any eyebrows over it.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trolls-left-behind/608868/130 "2012-01-10T21:40:53Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> You’re right, of course, the entire population should remain fixated on it lest it should ever recede into history and (perish the thought) we should all start getting along together.

It’s not a matter of remaining “fixated on it” to the exclusion of all else. But in a nation where slavery was an incredibly important social and economic institution for so long, and where the attitudes and beliefs that sustained that institution persisted in ways that contributed to long-standing violence, discrimination, and inequality, it is important to ensure that it remains a part of our historical understanding.

Nor is it the case, as you so stupidly imply, that remembering and understanding slavery need preclude us all “getting along together.” In fact, remembering and understanding can be part of that process, and to the extent that racial tensions still exist in parts of the country, they can often be attributed to the presence of people who lack any historical consciousness at all regarding slavery and its consequences for American society.

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**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trolls-left-behind/608868/131 "2012-01-10T22:26:38Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> This makes sense. It’s part of a propaganda campaign.

Huh? No, it’s something that probably is most in debt to TV depictions of racial issues, where racism is a simply a matter of evil people (Sheriff Billy Bob Redneck, etc.) vs. noble heroes. The reality isn’t so simple, and you don’t have to “be racist” to do and say racist things. It’s not about your personal intentions or good will.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trolls-left-behind/608868/132 "2012-01-10T22:36:09Z")

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> [@guizot](#):
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> Well, this is actually an on-going conceit in public discourse at large, and it has been for a long time. The idea is to ignore or dismiss the full implications of historical and social context by reducing something to a question of individual motivation. Some people can’t understand (or refuse to understand) that racism isn’t about one person being “bad” or “good”-- that it isn’t about individual character or intentions, existing in bubble.

Racism is an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us; it binds the galaxy together.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trolls-left-behind/608868/133 "2012-01-10T23:12:37Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Racism is an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us; it binds the galaxy together.

No, that’s duct tape. (It has a Light Side and a Dark Side.)

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**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trolls-left-behind/608868/134 "2012-01-10T23:15:59Z")

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We’ve always got the choice to help those are really slaves.

But we’re not.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trolls-left-behind/608868/135 "2012-01-10T23:40:40Z")

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What have you done about it today other than hijack this thread?

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**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2012, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trolls-left-behind/608868/136 "2012-01-11T06:16:38Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> “Woolly-headed” also literally means having hair that is wool-like in quality.
> 
> Under either definition, the usage is eyebrow-raising for more modern sensibilities.

Sure enough, some on-line dictionaries do give both definitions. Ignorance fought

This came up many, many years ago when I was in college and the college president used the term in the sense of muddled thinking. It caused quite a stir as people thought he was referring to nappy hair

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2012, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trolls-left-behind/608868/137 "2012-01-11T15:08:31Z")

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> [@CitizenPained](#):
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> Forty – without pee, rest or lunch breaks.

No, it’s a trick question. It’s posed as simple arithmetic but in reality it’s calculus. The lynch mobs will be drinking 198 proof moonshine which will decrease their lynching efficiency geometrically as the evening progresses…

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2012, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trolls-left-behind/608868/138 "2012-01-11T20:43:03Z")

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Anyone remember the L. A. Math Proficiency Test, and how butthurt people were when it came out back in the 90s?

> [@](#):
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> THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES HIGH SCHOOL MATH PROFICIENCY EXAM
> 
> ```
> NAME ____________________
> 
> GANG NAME ______________
> 
> ```
> 
> 1. Little Johnny has an AK 47 with a 30 round clip. He  
> usually misses 6 out of every 10 shots and he uses 13 rounds per drive-by shooting. How many drive-by shootings can Little Johnny  
> attempt before he has to reload?
> 
> 2. Jose has 2 ounces of cocaine. If he sells an 8 ball to  
> Antonio for $320 and 2 grams to Juan for $85 per gram, what  
> is the street value of the rest of his hold?
> 
> 3. Rufus pimps 3 hos. If the price is $85 per trick, how  
> many tricks per day must each ho turn to support Rufus’s  
> $800 per day crack habit?
> 
> 4. Jerome wants to cut the pound of cocaine he bought for  
> $40,000 to make 20% profit. How many ounces will he need?
> 
> 5. Willie gets $200 for a stolen BMW, $150 for stealing a  
> Corvette, and $100 for a 4x4. If he steals 1 BMW, 2  
> Corvettes and 3 4x4’s, how many more Corvettes must he  
> have to steal to have $900?
> 
> 6. Raoul got 6 years for murder. He also got $10,000 for  
> the hit. If his common-law wife spends $100 per month, how  
> much money will be left when he gets out?
> 
> Extra credit bonus: how much more time will he get for  
> killing the ho that spent his money?
> 
> 1. If an average can of spray paint covers 22 square feet  
> and the average letter is 3 square feet, how many letters  
> can be sprayed with 3 eight ounce cans of spray paint with  
> 20% paint free?
> 
> 2. Hector knocked up 3 girls in the gang. There are 27  
> girls in his gang. What is the exact percentage of girls  
> Hector knocked up?
> 
> 3. Bernie is a lookout for the gang. Bernie has a Boa  
> Constrictor that eats 3 small rats per week at a cost of $5  
> per rat. If Bernie makes $700 a week as a lookout, how many  
> weeks can he feed the Boa on one week’s income?
> 
> 4. Billy steals Joe’s skateboard. As Billy skates away at  
> 35 mph, Joe loads his 357 Magnum. If it takes Joe 20  
> seconds to load his magnum, how far away will Billy be when  
> he gets whacked?

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2012, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trolls-left-behind/608868/139 "2012-01-11T20:46:43Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Anyone remember the L. A. Math Proficiency Test, and how butthurt people were when it came out back in the 90s?

Based on your use of the term “butthurt,” would it be valid to conclude that you saw no problem with that test?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2012, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trolls-left-behind/608868/140 "2012-01-11T21:07:50Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> Based on your use of the term “butthurt,” would it be valid to conclude that you saw no problem with that test?

Didn’t see any, and couldn’t solve any…

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