# No, Trump, We Can’t Just Get Along **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 24, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trump-we-can-t-just-get-along/772903 "2016-11-24T17:33:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trump-we-can-t-just-get-along/772903/1 "2016-11-24T17:33:11Z")
I’m thankful for Charles M. Blow’s [NYT](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/23/opinion/no-trump-we-cant-just-get-along.html?emc=edit_th_20161124&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=43071900&_r=0) article today… > [@](#): > > He [Trump] ended the meeting by saying: > > “I will say, The Times is, it’s a great, great American jewel. A world jewel. And I hope we can all get along well.” > > I will say proudly and happily that I was not present at this meeting. The very idea of sitting across the table from a demagogue who preyed on racial, ethnic and religious hostilities and treating him with decorum and social grace fills me with disgust, to the point of overflowing. Let me tell you here where I stand on your “I hope we can all get along” plea: Never. > > You are an aberration and abomination who is willing to do and say anything — no matter whom it aligns you with and whom it hurts — to satisfy your ambitions. I hope anyone that is interested, can read it with the paywall. Free trial, maybe? I hope I’m not breaking a rule with another quote… > [@](#): > > No, Mr. Trump, we will not all just get along. For as long as a threat to the state is the head of state, all citizens of good faith and national fidelity — and certainly this columnist — have an absolute obligation to meet you and your agenda with resistance at every turn. > > I know this in my bones, and for that I am thankful. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trump-we-can-t-just-get-along/772903/2 "2016-11-24T17:40:04Z")
Moved from Elections to MPSIMS. [/moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trump-we-can-t-just-get-along/772903/3 "2016-11-24T18:05:24Z")
Fully agree. Trump is engaging in abuse behaviors by alternating praise and abuse, gaslighting, demanding respect while offering none, not taking responsibility, looking for scapegoats, etc. America is stuck in an abusive relationship for the next 4-8 years. Treating this like it is normal is not going to help. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trump-we-can-t-just-get-along/772903/4 "2016-11-24T19:46:27Z")
Bravo, Mr. Blow. I hope more people continue to stand up to Trump. The last thing this country needs is to “get along” with such an authoritarian demagogue. The more resistance he has, the better. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2016, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trump-we-can-t-just-get-along/772903/5 "2016-11-25T01:20:35Z")
> [@MacCat](#): > > I’m thankful for Charles M. Blow’s [NYT](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/23/opinion/no-trump-we-cant-just-get-along.html?emc=edit_th_20161124&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=43071900&_r=0) article today… > > I hope anyone that is interested, can read it with the paywall. Free trial, maybe? I hope I’m not breaking a rule with another quote… You can use incognito tabs to read it anyway. They don’t even mind that people do this, they’re just trying to add a layer of effort in order to encourage people to pay. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2016, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trump-we-can-t-just-get-along/772903/6 "2016-11-25T04:25:44Z")
And Blow is probably wondering why the NYT is only down 95.7% of their net income from last year. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2016, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trump-we-can-t-just-get-along/772903/7 "2016-11-25T04:29:53Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > And Blow is probably wondering why the NYT is only down 95.7% of their net income from last year. Holy crap, is that true? Wow. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2016, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trump-we-can-t-just-get-along/772903/8 "2016-11-25T04:36:03Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Holy crap, is that true? Wow. [No, only 3% down.](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/29/business/media/new-york-times-co-q2-earnings.html) > [@](#): > > The New York Times Company posted a net loss for the second consecutive quarter, in part because of severance costs related to the closing of the company’s editing and prepress operations in Paris. > > The company had strong growth in digital subscriptions, it said on Thursday, but digital advertising revenue, which has been a bright spot in the past, declined. > > Total revenue fell 3 percent, to $373 million from $383 million, in the same quarter a year earlier, as The Times continued to struggle with declining advertising revenue. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2016, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trump-we-can-t-just-get-along/772903/9 "2016-11-25T12:45:08Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Holy crap, is that true? Wow. Patient name **Magiver** shows telltale signs of intravenous Kool-Aid abuse. Flushed appearance, eyes black and dilated, smiling inappropriately, prone to loud outbursts and sudden fits of destructive rage. ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2016, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trump-we-can-t-just-get-along/772903/10 "2016-11-25T13:26:26Z")
“Gaslighting”? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2016, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trump-we-can-t-just-get-along/772903/11 "2016-11-25T14:47:44Z")
Nobody says Charles Blow has to be nice to Trump. But I remember how outraged liberals professed to be 8 years ago when Rush Limbaugh proclaimed that he hoped newly elected President Obama would fail. Make up your minds- is it okay to declare war on a new Presudent or not? If it’s okay for Blow, why not for Limbaugh? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2016, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trump-we-can-t-just-get-along/772903/12 "2016-11-25T14:53:18Z")
Because Trump deserves all the contempt and derision the US can throw at him and Obama did not. Blow’s comments about Trump are based on the fact that Trump is vile. Limbaugh’s were based on the fact that his party lost. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2016, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trump-we-can-t-just-get-along/772903/13 "2016-11-25T16:42:31Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Make up your minds- is it okay to declare war on a new Presudent or not? If it’s okay for Blow, why not for Limbaugh? Obama didn’t win on the basis of blatant racism, bigotry, advocacy of war crimes and torture, and disregard of fundamental American values. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2016, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trump-we-can-t-just-get-along/772903/14 "2016-11-25T17:05:51Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [No, only 3% down.](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/29/business/media/new-york-times-co-q2-earnings.html) I’m sorry, what part of the [NYT](the NYT is only down 95.7% of their net income from last year)is [down](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3897406/New-York-Times-reports-95-7-percent-fall-quarterly-profit.html)95.7% of their net income from last year did you not understand? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2016, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trump-we-can-t-just-get-along/772903/15 "2016-11-25T17:06:02Z")
How about this: I hope that Trump’s stated agenda fails, because his stated agenda would do severe damage to this country and to the world. If, by some fluke, Trump changes his agenda to one that is constructive instead of destructive, then I hope that he succeeds in that new agenda. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2016, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trump-we-can-t-just-get-along/772903/16 "2016-11-25T17:12:04Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > I’m sorry, what part of the [NYT](the NYT is only down 95.7% of their net income from last year)is [down](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3897406/New-York-Times-reports-95-7-percent-fall-quarterly-profit.html)95.7% of their net income from last year did you not understand? I have no idea how accurate the DM, but you don’t appear to understand what you are reading. That article states their profits are down based on an accounting adjustment. It has nothing to do with the NYT’s popularity or not. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2016, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trump-we-can-t-just-get-along/772903/17 "2016-11-25T17:16:10Z")
Well, hopefully like other upright citizens, I have purchased my guns and am stockpiling food for the coming civil war that Trump is going to start. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trump-we-can-t-just-get-along/772903/18 "2016-11-25T17:17:01Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Obama didn’t win on the basis of blatant racism, bigotry, advocacy of war crimes and torture, and disregard of fundamental American values. He didn’t win by lying to the public and circumventing the FOIA either. All of which was ignored during the election by the main stream media. Hillary would not have made it through the Primaries if Mr Blow Hard had done his job. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2016, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trump-we-can-t-just-get-along/772903/19 "2016-11-25T17:21:07Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > I’m sorry, what part of the [NYT](the NYT is only down 95.7% of their net income from last year)is [down](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3897406/New-York-Times-reports-95-7-percent-fall-quarterly-profit.html)95.7% of their net income from last year did you not understand? And you’re quoting a misleading stat. Lack of profit is not the same as lack of income. > [@](#): > > The results were hit by one-time costs that included a $2.9 million charge for the closing of its Paris editing and prepress operations and $13 million in severance costs. The NYT is not circling the drain like you’re trying to imply. Total revenue is only slightly down. > [@](#): > > Revenue fell to $363.6 million from $367.4 million. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trump-we-can-t-just-get-along/772903/20 "2016-11-25T17:33:16Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > How about this: I hope that Trump’s stated agenda fails, because his stated agenda would do severe damage to this country and to the world. If, by some fluke, Trump changes his agenda to one that is constructive instead of destructive, then I hope that he succeeds in that new agenda. Hell, even Trump has already abandoned his “stated agenda.” Front and center now is the big infrastructure plan whereby Trump can make even more millions and billions of dollars by [del]selling[/del] influencing contracts. Follow the money. That is the key to the Big D. Nothing else matters as much. If there are auxiliary benefits to the USA, it’s all good. But his own bottom line matters the most. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-trump-we-can-t-just-get-along/772903.md?page=2)