# no vegetables for breakfast-- why? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [June 17, 2017, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-vegetables-for-breakfast-why/789203 "2017-06-17T14:53:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-vegetables-for-breakfast-why/789203/81 "2017-06-19T02:52:24Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > Correct. According to your definition, neither broccoli or cauliflower would be vegetables either. Anyone with any sense considers both of them vegetables. In case you haven’t ever actually grown your own, they’re both essentially masses of un-bloomed flowers. Like a day before they bloom. If you leave them just a day too long, you end up with a mass of tiny yellow flowers. ---
**Author:** ![Cub\_Mistress](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea666f/32.png) [@Cub\_Mistress](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cub_Mistress)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-vegetables-for-breakfast-why/789203/82 "2017-06-19T03:05:42Z")
> [@Weisshund](#): > > Depending on the reason, you might try Duck eggs? > A lot of people that can not eat chicken eggs can eat duck eggs, i have no idea why. > > I vote for the roast beef and gravy with brussel sprouts and roasted cauliflower, with a baked banana with butter and brown sugar for after 😃 Thank you for the information, I will investigate duck eggs. I must admit I am a little afraid to try a challenge because of the severity of the symptoms. ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-vegetables-for-breakfast-why/789203/83 "2017-06-19T03:19:02Z")
> [@Weisshund](#): > > Lox, not L.OX > > Although they may well douse the ones at the store in liquid oxygen > nasty frozen hockey pucks they are. I believe what you’re referring to is the food we know as Smoked Salmon. It is indeed an excellent breakfast food. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-vegetables-for-breakfast-why/789203/84 "2017-06-19T07:05:32Z")
> [@bump](#): > > According to your definition, neither broccoli or cauliflower would be vegetables either. Anyone with any sense considers both of them vegetables. > > In case you haven’t ever actually grown your own, they’re both essentially masses of un-bloomed flowers. Like a day before they bloom. If you leave them just a day too long, you end up with a mass of tiny yellow flowers. In a food thread, the nitpickery about botanical definitions is a big load of bollocks. Never mind the fact that there \*isn’t \* a formal definition of ‘vegetable’ in the same sense there is one for ‘fruit’. In a culinary context, lots of ‘vegetables’ are actually the fruiting body of a plant (or indeed the fruiting body of something that isn’t even closely related to plants - mushrooms). Maybe half, or more than half, of the things in the veg section of the supermarket. And there are one or two things used as ‘fruit’ (that is, served in a sweet/dessert context) that are not the fruiting body of a plant - for example, Rhubarb, Jicama, Lotus root, Mint. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-vegetables-for-breakfast-why/789203/86 "2017-06-19T08:06:33Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > Here is an example of what breakfast looks like in other countries. [This one is Ethiopian.](https://www.google.com/search?q=ethiopian+breakfast&tbm=isch&imgil=mxB16wrkzI4pkM%253A%253BfF8vRaeP1_ciYM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.seriouseats.com%25252F2014%25252F03%25252Fbreakfast-worth-waking-up-early-for-lucy-ethiopian-cafe-boston.html&source=iu&pf=m&fir=mxB16wrkzI4pkM%253A%252CfF8vRaeP1_ciYM%252C_&usg=__gMyLu00dAHc_fTAfNEk4um2sPek%3D&biw=877&bih=434&ved=0ahUKEwjKmN_8wsXUAhUJMj4KHbESBckQyjcIUw&ei=xnZFWcqdBInk-AGxpZTIDA#imgrc=mxB16wrkzI4pkM:) Huh, I saw that one and thought “hey, it looks like _[migas](https://www.google.es/search?q=ethiopian+breakfast&tbm=isch&imgil=mxB16wrkzI4pkM%253A%253BfF8vRaeP1_ciYM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.seriouseats.com%25252F2014%25252F03%25252Fbreakfast-worth-waking-up-early-for-lucy-ethiopian-cafe-boston.html&source=iu&pf=m&fir=mxB16wrkzI4pkM%253A%252CfF8vRaeP1_ciYM%252C_&usg=__gMyLu00dAHc_fTAfNEk4um2sPek%3D&biw=877&bih=434&ved=0ahUKEwjKmN_8wsXUAhUJMj4KHbESBckQyjcIUw&ei=xnZFWcqdBInk-AGxpZTIDA&gws_rd=cr#tbm=isch&q=migas)_, made with egg”\*. According to the articles, it pretty much is that. Cool, I always find it interesting when different cultures come up with very similar foods. - Note: some of the pictures I get aren’t migas. At least one is a paella. I promise migas aren’t paella: the basic ingredient in migas is old bread, the basic ingredient in paella is rice. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-vegetables-for-breakfast-why/789203/87 "2017-06-19T08:22:56Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > > [@Shagnasty](#): > > > > Here is an example of what breakfast looks like in other countries. [This one is Ethiopian.](https://www.google.com/search?q=ethiopian+breakfast&tbm=isch&imgil=mxB16wrkzI4pkM%253A%253BfF8vRaeP1_ciYM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.seriouseats.com%25252F2014%25252F03%25252Fbreakfast-worth-waking-up-early-for-lucy-ethiopian-cafe-boston.html&source=iu&pf=m&fir=mxB16wrkzI4pkM%253A%252CfF8vRaeP1_ciYM%252C_&usg=__gMyLu00dAHc_fTAfNEk4um2sPek%3D&biw=877&bih=434&ved=0ahUKEwjKmN_8wsXUAhUJMj4KHbESBckQyjcIUw&ei=xnZFWcqdBInk-AGxpZTIDA#imgrc=mxB16wrkzI4pkM:) > > Huh, I saw that one and thought “hey, it looks like _[migas](https://www.google.es/search?q=ethiopian+breakfast&tbm=isch&imgil=mxB16wrkzI4pkM%253A%253BfF8vRaeP1_ciYM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.seriouseats.com%25252F2014%25252F03%25252Fbreakfast-worth-waking-up-early-for-lucy-ethiopian-cafe-boston.html&source=iu&pf=m&fir=mxB16wrkzI4pkM%253A%252CfF8vRaeP1_ciYM%252C_&usg=__gMyLu00dAHc_fTAfNEk4um2sPek%3D&biw=877&bih=434&ved=0ahUKEwjKmN_8wsXUAhUJMj4KHbESBckQyjcIUw&ei=xnZFWcqdBInk-AGxpZTIDA&gws_rd=cr#tbm=isch&q=migas)_, made with egg”\*. According to the articles, it pretty much is that. Cool, I always find it interesting when different cultures come up with very similar foods. > > - Note: some of the pictures I get aren’t migas. At least one is a paella. I promise migas aren’t paella: the basic ingredient in migas is old bread, the basic ingredient in paella is rice. Oh yeah, _fitfit_, that’s right. Ethiopian _fitfit_ is a most excellent breakfast. It’s leftover \*injera \*shredded and then fried in _nit’er kibbe_ (spiced clarified butter) and seasoned with plenty of _berbere_ spice blend. Then served with a great big scoop of yogurt in the middle of it and extra _berbere_. It will blow your mind how delicious it is. I gotta make some more. The only thing is _injera_ is such a pain to make. If you don’t have \*injera \*and you’re jonesing for _fitfit_, you can make some very simple unleavened flatbread (_kitcha_) and use that. But \*injera \*is far better for _fitfit_. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-vegetables-for-breakfast-why/789203/88 "2017-06-19T08:33:59Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Huh, I saw that one and thought “hey, it looks like _[migas](https://www.google.es/search?q=ethiopian+breakfast&tbm=isch&imgil=mxB16wrkzI4pkM%253A%253BfF8vRaeP1_ciYM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.seriouseats.com%25252F2014%25252F03%25252Fbreakfast-worth-waking-up-early-for-lucy-ethiopian-cafe-boston.html&source=iu&pf=m&fir=mxB16wrkzI4pkM%253A%252CfF8vRaeP1_ciYM%252C_&usg=__gMyLu00dAHc_fTAfNEk4um2sPek%3D&biw=877&bih=434&ved=0ahUKEwjKmN_8wsXUAhUJMj4KHbESBckQyjcIUw&ei=xnZFWcqdBInk-AGxpZTIDA&gws_rd=cr#tbm=isch&q=migas)_, made with egg”\*. According to the articles, it pretty much is that. Cool, I always find it interesting when different cultures come up with very similar foods. It is interesting when that happens. I think a lot of the time, it’s creativity driven by scarcity or poverty. Migas seems like a dish conceived to feed a family with something satisfying, meaty, and high-energy, but starting with a small amount of fatty meat, and a lot of leftover bread. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-vegetables-for-breakfast-why/789203/89 "2017-06-19T09:56:47Z")
Yeah, the versions that come up in that link mostly involve meat, but I’ve also seen versions where the complement was red grapes, or chopped up oranges, or vegetables… and their full name when the complement is meat is _migas de pastor,_ shepherd’s crumbs. The name explains the origin. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-vegetables-for-breakfast-why/789203/90 "2017-06-19T10:37:58Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Yeah, the versions that come up in that link mostly involve meat, but I’ve also seen versions where the complement was red grapes, or chopped up oranges, or vegetables… and their full name when the complement is meat is _migas de pastor,_ shepherd’s crumbs. The name explains the origin. I first encountered it in a little restaurant in Albarracin - it was dressed with grapes, but had bits of chorizo and crisp-fried fatty pork belly in it (the fat rendered out of both of these was presumably the basis for frying the crumbs) - I’m guessing this was probably a bit richer than the peasant origins of the dish. I really enjoyed it. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-vegetables-for-breakfast-why/789203/91 "2017-06-19T14:28:35Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > That’s… Kosher butchering? Maybe? Me, never heard the cross-language verb, but I’ve never had a _shochet_ as an Uncle. And as usual I’m honestly impressed with **Chronos** ’s knowledge of halacha and liturgical customs. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-vegetables-for-breakfast-why/789203/92 "2017-06-19T15:02:11Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Actually, spinach isn’t a vegetable. It’s technically a leaf. Can’t tell if serious. But on the offchance, would that be a nitpick that it’s not a vegetable like a carrot is a vegetable? Because if so, we might as well acknowledge that a potato isn’t the same kind of anatomical structure as a carrot; carrots are roots; potatoes are stem tubers. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-vegetables-for-breakfast-why/789203/93 "2017-06-19T15:22:53Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > [50 Breakfasts from around the world.](http://www.hostelbookers.com/blog/travel/best-breakfast) Canadians eat perogies for breakfast? ---
**Author:** ![aktep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@aktep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aktep)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-vegetables-for-breakfast-why/789203/94 "2017-06-19T16:06:37Z")
huh, here in Texas, _migas_ is eggs scrambled with tortilla chips, with onion, jalapeno, and tomato, topped with cheese and salsa. ---
**Author:** ![Hector\_St\_Clare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@Hector\_St\_Clare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hector_St_Clare)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-vegetables-for-breakfast-why/789203/95 "2017-06-19T16:07:27Z")
Rice porridge cooked with leafy greens (sometimes with a bit of dried beef if you want to get fancy) is a common breakfast food in Madagascar. Indian flatbreads, often eaten for breakfast, not uncommonly incorporate a bit of leafy greens in the dough. I don’t think that the Indian specifically “breakfast” foods are typically heavy on vegetables (they of course aren’t heavy on meats either), but as noted in a lot of cultures the division between breakfast food and non-breakfast food isn’t as sharp as it is in American and English cultures. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-vegetables-for-breakfast-why/789203/96 "2017-06-19T23:09:33Z")
**Leo Bloom** , I may be more knowledgeable than most about Jewish customs, but that wasn’t knowledge; that was a guess that turned out to be correct. Mostly because I couldn’t imagine what else a Jew would need to learn to do to chickens. Google Translate wasn’t much help, because it apparently thinks that “shekt” is already English, and so translated it as “shekt”. > [@](#): > > Quoth **Mangetout** : > > Can’t tell if serious. > > But on the offchance, would that be a nitpick that it’s not a vegetable like a carrot is a vegetable? A carrot isn’t technically a vegetable, either. It’s actually a root. (and at this point you should be able to determine exactly how serious I am) ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-vegetables-for-breakfast-why/789203/97 "2017-06-19T23:17:31Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [Dope pedant]Tomato is a fruit. Specifically, a berry.[/Dope pedant] > > 😃 What’d he ever do to you? ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-vegetables-for-breakfast-why/789203/98 "2017-06-20T11:44:32Z")
> [@Hector\_St\_Clare](#): > > Indian flatbreads, often eaten for breakfast, not uncommonly incorporate a bit of leafy greens in the dough. Those are fenugreek leaves. It’s called _methi paratha_. You can stuff parathas with all kinds of things. I make 'em with garlic. If you use green onions, it becomes a Chinese _congyoubing_. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-vegetables-for-breakfast-why/789203/99 "2017-06-20T11:47:04Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > A carrot isn’t technically a vegetable, either. It’s actually a root. > > (and at this point you should be able to determine exactly how serious I am) Tricky, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-vegetables-for-breakfast-why/789203/100 "2017-06-20T12:48:43Z")
There is nothing wrong with fish for breakfast. Stuff like broccoli and brussels sprouts on a breakfast plate is just…wrong. If you want to sneak a little into my omelet (as long as there’s meat in there too), well alright then. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-vegetables-for-breakfast-why/789203/101 "2017-06-20T12:57:10Z")
I think I’ve eaten sprouts for breakfast on Boxing Day once, mostly for comedy value. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-vegetables-for-breakfast-why/789203.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-vegetables-for-breakfast-why/789203.md?page=6)