# No, Virginia (and the rest of you states), the media is not all that 'liberal'

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**Created:** [March 22, 2015, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-virginia-and-the-rest-of-you-states-the-media-is-not-all-that-liberal/715672 "2015-03-22T09:17:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-virginia-and-the-rest-of-you-states-the-media-is-not-all-that-liberal/715672/28 "2015-03-22T21:53:20Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> I lack the emotional stamina to “debate” on this Board …  
> On the _Home Page_ of Wash. Times (not the Politics page, nor the Opinion page, but the [Home Page](http://washingtontimes.com)) we see headlines including  
> \*  
> Michelle Obama sticks taxpayers with monster tab for rental cars in Japan  
> Jay Leno called ‘kind of racist’ by intern for disliking Mexican food  
> Suspect in ‘Top Model’ killing was Dreamer approved for Obama amnesty  
> Was Hillary Clinton running her own rogue intel operation?  
> Republicans talk of an imperial presidency - and royalty visits the White House  
> Hillary Clinton should face criminal charges  
> 5 ways Obama camp has shown hatred toward Bibi  
> IRS blames Obamacare for shoddy customer service  
> Family secret: What the left won’t tell you about black crime\*

This was not even a complete list of the right-slanted headlines on the Home Page: Cut-and-paste was difficult and I got tired.

_ **And nobody has posted a comparably slanted list from “mainstream” media.** _

> [@septimus](#):
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> Of the study’s two authors, Jeffrey Milyo is a senior fellow at the Cato Institute, formerly known as Charles Koch Foundation; and Tim Groseclose is author of the paperback _Left Turn: How Liberal Media Bias Distorts the American Mind_. _Do these sound like the “objective political scientists” we should listen to?_

Answering my own question, I don’t think so. Please re-read the “qualifications” of the two authors.

But in reply I get only.

> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> You have a better system of assessment than being reviewed by your peers in the field? I’d like to hear it.

:smack:

> [@septimus](#):
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> I lack the emotional stamina to “debate” on this Board …

> [@Ravenman](#):
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> For someone who feels the need to explain peer review to the class …

😕 :smack:

> [@septimus](#):
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> I lack the emotional stamina to “debate” on this Board …

> [@Ravenman](#):
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> You’re measuring the quality of journalism in addition to bias.

So is the revised hypothesis that “mainstream” media is left-slanted but of higher quality than right-wing media? 🙂

> [@Does anyone oppose big money in politics?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-oppose-big-money-in-politics/715693/8):
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> Can you show your work as to how you got the “correct” answers?

No comment on substance. Doesn’t offer his own opinion, if any. No clue that he even grasped that my post was obviously debatable opinion. Just a useless Pavlovian-reflex jab.

Kudos to intelligent Dopers who _do_ have the patience and emotional stamina to “debate” politics on this Board.

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