# No WMD? Can these people read?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-wmd-can-these-people-read/268052>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 7, 2004, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-wmd-can-these-people-read/268052 "2004-10-07T17:18:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![David\_Simmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@David\_Simmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_Simmons)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-wmd-can-these-people-read/268052/81 "2004-10-08T04:20:29Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> He’s still trying to weasel and shift blame to the intelligence. Has this asshole ever once accepted responsibility for anything in his life?

I still say he acts just like someone who was overcriticised as a child and learned that shifting blame often pays, especially when combined with obfuscation. And Cheney has learned that all you need to do to be considered a whiz is to rattle off a bunch of figures. By the time they are checked for accuracy the discussion has moved on to other subjects and those who try to go back and point out inaccuracies are considered nit pickers.

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**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-wmd-can-these-people-read/268052/82 "2004-10-08T04:36:07Z")

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> [@David Simmons](#):
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> Along with that thought, people keep harping on the report’s claim that Saddam’s _intention_ was to get rid of the sanctions so that he could resume his various weapons programs. Somehow, the follow up report statement that the evidence is that Saddam wanted them for use as a defense, or an offense, against Iran gets left out.

Dr. David Kay pointed out that Hussein had intentions w/o plans. Not even plans to reconstitute his program related activities. Just intentions.

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**Author:** ![David\_Simmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@David\_Simmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_Simmons)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-wmd-can-these-people-read/268052/83 "2004-10-08T06:25:44Z")

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> [@SimonX](#):
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> Dr. David Kay pointed out that Hussein had **intentions w/o plans.** [bold added] Not even plans to reconstitute his program related activities. Just intentions.

I guess he and GW had a lot in common.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-wmd-can-these-people-read/268052/84 "2004-10-08T09:29:51Z")

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> [@Frostillicus](#):
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> I guarantee you that a lot fewer people believe that Iraq NEVER had any WMD as compared to those who think Iraq had a direct connection to 9-11. So I am sure that you are even more outraged at the lies told by Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rummy, and Dubya to steer America into a foolish war that has cost over 1,000 US lives and left tens of thousands of US soldiers horribly wounded.

Not to mention the gazillions of tax dollars it will end up costing us.

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**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-wmd-can-these-people-read/268052/85 "2004-10-08T13:09:42Z")

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> [@David Simmons](#):
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> So it would seem we are getting our people killed and injured and spending billions to protect Iran. How’s that for irony?

Well, of course, this jibes well with the reports from several months back (that I haven’t seen any follow-up on) that some in the U.S. intelligence community are saying that they have evidence that Iranian intelligence was actually involved with Chalabi in feeding the U.S. all those WMD fairytales through those defectors and such.

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**Author:** ![plnnr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@plnnr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plnnr)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2004, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-wmd-can-these-people-read/268052/86 "2004-10-08T13:15:12Z")

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It depends on what your definition of “is” is.

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