# No wonder we haven't caught Osama

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-wonder-we-havent-caught-osama/315506>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 4, 2005, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-wonder-we-havent-caught-osama/315506 "2005-08-04T01:32:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2005, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-wonder-we-havent-caught-osama/315506/21 "2005-08-04T06:07:00Z")

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Busted I stand. Make it your sig. I fully and wholeheartedly support Osama bin Laden. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2005, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-wonder-we-havent-caught-osama/315506/22 "2005-08-04T06:11:29Z")

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BTW **Squink** , care to notice the OP seems to be ranting about the wording of the whole thing? Or are you trying to assist in the hijack of making this anti-Bush? Granted, not a big hijack as that’s where the OP was headed, but the thread is supposedly about the naming of the whole thing.

Frankly, I hope you’re going for the hijack, as there is a void of threads bitching about the administration. You know, about those risking their lives over there. Or something. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2005, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-wonder-we-havent-caught-osama/315506/23 "2005-08-04T06:15:08Z")

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Well, at least I’m not the only doper who is annoyed that the highest ranking law enforcement officer in the country “isn’t concerned” with the whereabouts of the single most prolific mass murderer in American history.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2005, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-wonder-we-havent-caught-osama/315506/24 "2005-08-04T06:18:57Z")

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Someone should remind **duffer** that it wasn’t anyone on the SDMB who proposed pulling American forces _off_ Bin Laden’s trail so they can go fight a Damn Fool War™ in Iraq instead.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2005, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-wonder-we-havent-caught-osama/315506/25 "2005-08-04T08:17:47Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> BTW **Squink** , care to notice the OP seems to be ranting about the wording of the whole thing? Or are you trying to assist in the hijack of making this anti-Bush? Granted, not a big hijack as that’s where the OP was headed, but the thread is supposedly about the naming of the whole thing.
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> Frankly, I hope you’re going for the hijack, as there is a void of threads bitching about the administration. You know, about those risking their lives over there. Or something. :rolleyes:

Um…have you completely missed the point of the op or have you just gone off the rails entirely?

JonScribe is upset that instead of dedicating more time on the part of our officials to catching Osama, we have people dedicated to thinking of slogans for the selling of a concept.

I honestly don’t know where your replies are coming from **Duffer**. 😕

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2005, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-wonder-we-havent-caught-osama/315506/26 "2005-08-04T09:19:17Z")

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> [@Harborwolf](#):
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> JonScribe is upset that instead of dedicating more time on the part of our officials to catching Osama, we have people dedicated to thinking of slogans for the selling of a concept.

Yeah, but what else are they gonna do? Do you have any idea how many bureaucrats are stuffed into Washington DC? They’re paid to do their one little thing, labelled, documented, and ranked. If you want someone to win a war on terror, you have to go the other window. And to the back of the line.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2005, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-wonder-we-havent-caught-osama/315506/27 "2005-08-04T11:12:04Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> Busted I stand. Make it your sig. I fully and wholeheartedly support Osama bin Laden. :rolleyes:

The irony! It burrrrrrrnnnnsssss!

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**Author:** ![Driver8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@Driver8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Driver8)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2005, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-wonder-we-havent-caught-osama/315506/28 "2005-08-04T16:07:46Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> Some of us understand that Osama needs to go, others like the OP haven’t been sold.
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> Sadly, the OP seems to think Osama’s actions are legitimate fodder for bashing the current administration. Bash away if you need to. Just keep in mind ObL was around trying to kill of the West long before Bush took office.

Yeah, I too am struggling to see where you got this from the OP. The complaint is about wasting time renaming their “war on terror”. Whether you agree or disagree with the complaint in the OP is one thing. But how you pulled “I don’t think we should go after Osama” from that is beyond my wildest imagination.

I’ll assume it was an error on your part, or you have a specific post in another thread to quote to back up this claim. The alternative is deliberate dishonesty.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2005, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-wonder-we-havent-caught-osama/315506/29 "2005-08-04T16:21:10Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> At least we’re concerning ourselves with the biggest problem in the hunt. The naming of it. Forget about the soldiers risking life and limb hunting him down.
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> It’s marketing. Marketing is key these days in selling people on anything. Some of us understand that Osama needs to go, others like the OP haven’t been sold. Hence, the need for catchphrases to get them to put down the PS2 controller long enough to pay attention to what is going on in the world. I’m not talking about idealogical differences in politics. I’m talking about a man who has dedicated his life and fortune for decades to kill us. Plain and simple. ObL said it, the killings made me believe it.
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> Sadly, the OP seems to think Osama’s actions are legitimate fodder for bashing the current administration. Bash away if you need to. Just keep in mind ObL was around trying to kill of the West long before Bush took office.

The name-change represents a lack of focus on catching Osama bin Laden by widening the war to be against “violent extremists,” i.e., people defending their homeland against armed invaders (us) and perhaps, in time, people protesting the war, enviornmentalists, etc. The “extremists” are anyone who doesn’t support Bush, and the “violent” is an asasumption from “extremist.”

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2005, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-wonder-we-havent-caught-osama/315506/30 "2005-08-04T18:39:13Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> It burrrrrrrnnnnsssss!

Ever get irony in your eye, \*_jayjay_ …

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2005, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-wonder-we-havent-caught-osama/315506/31 "2005-08-04T18:51:53Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> Some of us understand that Osama needs to go, others like the OP haven’t been sold.

“I don’t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority.”

- G.W. Bush

“I am truly not that concerned about him.”

- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden’s whereabouts,

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2005, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-wonder-we-havent-caught-osama/315506/32 "2005-08-04T19:24:04Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> Yeah, but what else are they gonna do? Do you have any idea how many bureaucrats are stuffed into Washington DC? They’re paid to do their one little thing, labelled, documented, and ranked. If you want someone to win a war on terror, you have to go the other window. And to the back of the line.

I thought I already filled out that form, and the last form I filled out was to open a Cinnabon stand in Baghdad. What’s that? The line on the _third_ floor? Okay. Sorry for wasting your time sir.

What’s that? Ma’am? Ooops. :eek:

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**Author:** ![SlyFrog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@SlyFrog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlyFrog)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2005, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-wonder-we-havent-caught-osama/315506/33 "2005-08-04T19:51:54Z")

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I think it should be “OOPS” - Operation Osama PimpSlap.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2005, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-wonder-we-havent-caught-osama/315506/34 "2005-08-04T20:11:52Z")

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> [@Harborwolf](#):
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> I thought I already filled out that form, and the last form I filled out was to open a Cinnabon stand in Baghdad. What’s that? The line on the _third_ floor? Okay. Sorry for wasting your time sir.
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> What’s that? Ma’am? Ooops. :eek:

You were supposed to give me the yellow copy. You took the whole thing to the third floor. You fucked up. Now you have to start all over. Have a nice day.

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