# No, you asshole anti-abortion protestor. I do not want her to have an abortion@

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 28, 2010, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-you-asshole-anti-abortion-protestor-i-do-not-want-her-to-have-an-abortion/537624 "2010-04-28T14:31:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_the_Impaler)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-you-asshole-anti-abortion-protestor-i-do-not-want-her-to-have-an-abortion/537624/81 "2010-04-29T01:07:13Z")

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Because Lord knows no one ever regrets that!

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**Author:** ![Jamaika\_a\_jamaikaiake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7993a0/32.png) [@Jamaika\_a\_jamaikaiake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jamaika_a_jamaikaiake)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-you-asshole-anti-abortion-protestor-i-do-not-want-her-to-have-an-abortion/537624/82 "2010-04-29T01:09:43Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> For fuck’s sake, read what I wrote instead of getting your panties in a wad. Would you prefer it if we phrased it as pro-abortion-legality and anti-abortion-legality? Because I’d be fine with that; it’s just clunky.

_You_ were the one that started quibbling about well-established terminology. So when someone else quibbles about your proposed amendments, you can’t really blame them.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-you-asshole-anti-abortion-protestor-i-do-not-want-her-to-have-an-abortion/537624/83 "2010-04-29T01:13:21Z")

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> [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
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> Again with the “Let’s imagine a scenario where I’m right and then pretend that’s what happened” tactic. You’re defining “threat” as “convince not to have an abortion” and then you’re diagnosing this stranger’s fetus as having anencephaly so that they look evil. But more likely than not, these were people trying to convince a healthy “young woman” to not have an abortion of a healthy baby.
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> It’s like you expect these people to just give up the fight and go home because, hey, she _might_ have been raped or the baby _might_ already be dead.

No, I’m defining “threat” as “harangue possibly emotionally fragile women while they’re going about their legal business” with a side order of “try to fill someone’s head with lies/misinformation.” There are lots of reasons why any given woman is approaching that clinic, and crying “don’t kill your baby” to each of them is about as smart as crying “oh god, don’t drive drunk” to everyone walking out of a bar - sure, you might save a life, but you’re being a scary douche in the process and your message is really broadly targeted.

And I’d prefer for them to knock it the hell off **or** at the very least be polite, respectful, not carry pictures of bloody dead babies, stop touching people in a violation of the law, and maybe try to act like the semi-respectable human beings that they claim to be. Because I guarantee you that a vast majority of the people entering a Planned Parenthood are not seeking an abortion (cause oh hey, they provide lots of services including pre-natal care), and may not even be pregnant, and all of those shitty actions that they’re doing only lose them respect and interfere with reasoned decision making. I am pro-choice in that I respect the opinion of people who think that abortion is wrong, but I also think they need to back the hell off from others and maybe consider working in support of services to support those scared women who decide to carry their babies to term and either keep or adopt out the child.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-you-asshole-anti-abortion-protestor-i-do-not-want-her-to-have-an-abortion/537624/84 "2010-04-29T01:38:37Z")

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> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#):
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> Pity you wound up changing your route. An 8-month-pregnant woman walking by, or better into, a Planned Parenthood clinic might cause one or more protesters to have a stroke.
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> .

Except a lot of these people are willing to believe that women WILL have abortions at eight months.

**Chessic Sense** , the point is, you don’t know WHY these women are there. Don’t fucking ASSUME. Even if it’s just ONE rape victim, that’s one too many.

And even if they ARE perfectly health pregnancies, it can STILL be a very troubling choice to have to make. And being called a “baby killer”, having gruesome photos shoved in my face, and being grabbed and tugged at is not something that can easily being ignored.

I’d tell you to stick it up your ass, but I don’t know if would fit, what with your head being stuck up there and all.

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-you-asshole-anti-abortion-protestor-i-do-not-want-her-to-have-an-abortion/537624/85 "2010-04-29T01:52:41Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Except a lot of these people are willing to believe that women WILL have abortions at eight months.

Which would be why they would have a stroke.  
Hey, **Guinastasia** , I’m on your side here. Could we get a coupla carriage returns between the comment on my post and the comments about **Chessic**? I’ve got a rep to maintain.  
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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-you-asshole-anti-abortion-protestor-i-do-not-want-her-to-have-an-abortion/537624/86 "2010-04-29T01:58:10Z")

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D’oh, sorry 'bout that!

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-you-asshole-anti-abortion-protestor-i-do-not-want-her-to-have-an-abortion/537624/87 "2010-04-29T02:12:44Z")

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> [@niblet\_head](#):
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> That makes you a human being. Abortion is not something that any normal sane person is going to take lightly.

What if you knew of a person that _did_ take it lightly, or at least no more seriously than any minor medical matter, like tonsillitis or liposuction? That person’s insane?

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-you-asshole-anti-abortion-protestor-i-do-not-want-her-to-have-an-abortion/537624/88 "2010-04-29T02:19:28Z")

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> [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
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> Because if you called the cops and said “She assaulted me!” and then told the cop (truthfully) what happened, they’d go “Seriously? You called me for _that_? Excuse me, I have real work to do.”
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> From the OP, it sounds like the touching was more of a “Hey, stop and listen to me,” not a “I’m going to hurt you now” gesture. So it gets downgraded in my book from criminal to rude.

Tell ya what. Next time an officer pulls you over to give you a ticket, put your hand on his arm and tell him you object to being given a ticket.

Come back and let us know how that works out for you after you post bail.

Hint: One of the charges will be assault on a peace officer.  
Yeah, yeah. We know. You’re such a fine upstanding citizen that you would never dream of breaking the law. And if you were pulled over by mistake you would never even consider trying to talk your way out of it.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-you-asshole-anti-abortion-protestor-i-do-not-want-her-to-have-an-abortion/537624/89 "2010-04-29T02:52:06Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> What if you knew of a person that _did_ take it lightly, or at least no more seriously than any minor medical matter, like tonsillitis or liposuction? That person’s insane?

Yeah. I’ve been privy to three of them, and I don’t feel good about any of it. But I don’t think I’m insane…rather, I think I’m stupid for not wearing a condom or insisting that my mates practice birth control. I suppose.

I’m really laying myself out here, in the stupid BBQ Pit of all places, and I don’t care. The deed(s) is done, I cannot change it.

The one that’s most disturbing to me is the recent one I had with my wife […], I never suspected that me and a woman I married would go through that. But, she had already had 3 children, 2 of them mine, and she was bound and determined since she’d recently graduated from college that we weren’t going to have another.

Good times.

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**Author:** ![moejoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@moejoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moejoe)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-you-asshole-anti-abortion-protestor-i-do-not-want-her-to-have-an-abortion/537624/90 "2010-04-29T03:23:25Z")

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I’m surprised more people don’t know this; PP schedules abortions one morning per week only, so if protesters are showing up at your local clinic every tuesday morning it’s because they know that that’s the time to be there.

Which means they are probably not yelling at a young woman going in for a pap smear.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-you-asshole-anti-abortion-protestor-i-do-not-want-her-to-have-an-abortion/537624/91 "2010-04-29T03:28:44Z")

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> [@moejoe](#):
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> I’m surprised more people don’t know this; PP schedules abortions one morning per week only, so if protesters are showing up at your local clinic every tuesday morning it’s because they know that that’s the time to be there.
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> Which means they are probably not yelling at a young woman going in for a pap smear.

What’s your point?

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**Author:** ![moejoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@moejoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moejoe)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-you-asshole-anti-abortion-protestor-i-do-not-want-her-to-have-an-abortion/537624/92 "2010-04-29T03:42:48Z")

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well, for those saying gosh, those protesters could be yelling at women who aren’t even going in for an abortion anyway, maybe they’re just there for BC or a pap smear…

I’m saying um, no, they’re not. If a woman walks into a planned parenthood on a tuesday morning…get it?

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-you-asshole-anti-abortion-protestor-i-do-not-want-her-to-have-an-abortion/537624/93 "2010-04-29T03:44:27Z")

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nm

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-you-asshole-anti-abortion-protestor-i-do-not-want-her-to-have-an-abortion/537624/94 "2010-04-29T03:45:30Z")

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> [@moejoe](#):
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> well, for those saying gosh, those protesters could be yelling at women who aren’t even going in for an abortion anyway, maybe they’re just there for BC or a pap smear…
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> I’m saying um, no, they’re not. If a woman walks into a planned parenthood on a tuesday morning…get it?

So…my plan of shrieking at them and showing them photos of a cervix is a bad plan? Oh well, that frees up Tuesday.

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**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-you-asshole-anti-abortion-protestor-i-do-not-want-her-to-have-an-abortion/537624/95 "2010-04-29T03:46:17Z")

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> [@BrightNShiny](#):
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> What the hell do you think Planned Parenthood does? They provide help for all of these things you moron.
> 
> Which party pushed for equalized pay for women? Or expanding health care and contraception access for everyone? Or providing government funding for adoption services? Or expanding the pool of adoptive parents? Or family leave? It was the Democrats, and in particular, the progressive and liberal wings of the party.
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> Pick up a fucking newspaper once in awhile you stupid douchebag.

I retract this post. I’ve quit nicotine this week, and today I seem to be especially cranky.

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**Author:** ![moejoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@moejoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moejoe)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-you-asshole-anti-abortion-protestor-i-do-not-want-her-to-have-an-abortion/537624/96 "2010-04-29T03:52:53Z")

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> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#):
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> So…my plan of shrieking at them and showing them photos of a cervix is a bad plan? Oh well, that frees up Tuesday.

still an excellent plan. Can I come too? We can get lunch after.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-you-asshole-anti-abortion-protestor-i-do-not-want-her-to-have-an-abortion/537624/97 "2010-04-29T03:55:35Z")

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> [@moejoe](#):
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> well, for those saying gosh, those protesters could be yelling at women who aren’t even going in for an abortion anyway, maybe they’re just there for BC or a pap smear…
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> I’m saying um, no, they’re not. If a woman walks into a planned parenthood on a tuesday morning…get it?

…then she could be getting birth control pills, or a pap smear, or an abortion. It’s not like the theoretical Tuesday morning is just for abortions. What if nobody wanted one that week? Is it ping-pong hour at the PP clinic?

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**Author:** ![LeeshaJoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LeeshaJoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LeeshaJoy)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-you-asshole-anti-abortion-protestor-i-do-not-want-her-to-have-an-abortion/537624/98 "2010-04-29T03:57:55Z")

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Dammit, **Little Plastic Ninja** beat me to it.

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**Author:** ![moejoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@moejoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moejoe)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-you-asshole-anti-abortion-protestor-i-do-not-want-her-to-have-an-abortion/537624/99 "2010-04-29T03:59:59Z")

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> [@LeeshaJoy](#):
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> Dammit, **Little Plastic Ninja** beat me to it.

nope, they are closed for those hours on that day except for that procedure. And I don’t think they’re ever slow enough for ping pong, sadly

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-you-asshole-anti-abortion-protestor-i-do-not-want-her-to-have-an-abortion/537624/100 "2010-04-29T04:00:27Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> And yes, I get that if a stranger grabs my shoulder and says, “Hey, you dropped this,” it’s not assault, so let’s not go into all the cases where someone might touch me without asking where it’s not assault.

Well, maybe if you dropped your fetus.

> [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](#):
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> …then she could be getting birth control pills, or a pap smear, or an abortion. It’s not like the theoretical Tuesday morning is just for abortions. What if nobody wanted one that week? Is it ping-pong hour at the PP clinic?

It’s _always_ ping-pong hour at Planned Parenthood… and ladies drink free until 8:30!

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