# No, your magical Christ nail DIDN'T win WWII for us

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 1, 2005, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-your-magical-christ-nail-didnt-win-wwii-for-us/297308 "2005-04-01T21:53:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2005, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-your-magical-christ-nail-didnt-win-wwii-for-us/297308/61 "2005-04-04T15:41:49Z")

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am just speaking out of my ass, or does looking out the window in a dull funk sound like the perfect period of time to start writing The Great 'Merican Novel?

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**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2005, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-your-magical-christ-nail-didnt-win-wwii-for-us/297308/62 "2005-04-04T15:49:55Z")

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:smack:

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**Author:** ![Hamish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Hamish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamish)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2005, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-your-magical-christ-nail-didnt-win-wwii-for-us/297308/63 "2005-04-04T16:09:39Z")

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> [@mza662](#):
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> the evangelions arent cyborgs, theyre living creatures. and it’s later retrieved if i recall correctly, during the process of the third impact. and there are copies made of it to accompany some new evangelions who destroy eva-02.
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> i love that manga too hehe

I consider them cyborgs because they do have electronic parts running through them. It’s never fully explained, but those things’ higher brain functions seem to have been scooped out and replaced with a pilot.

But then, a lot is left to guessing.

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**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2005, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-your-magical-christ-nail-didnt-win-wwii-for-us/297308/64 "2005-04-04T16:52:07Z")

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I havn’t seen it in a while, but I don’t remember the pilots being inserted into their _heads._ :eek:

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**Author:** ![Sample\_the\_Dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Sample\_the\_Dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sample_the_Dog)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2005, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-your-magical-christ-nail-didnt-win-wwii-for-us/297308/65 "2005-04-04T16:58:48Z")

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> [@wolf in second hand clothing](#):
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> I’m considering whether my education is in the best of hands

Yes. Your OP gives me some doubts about that.

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**Author:** ![slortar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@slortar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slortar)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2005, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-your-magical-christ-nail-didnt-win-wwii-for-us/297308/66 "2005-04-04T17:19:43Z")

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As if. The guy in the OP was a complete dolt. Everybody knows the Spear of Destiny is only +3 and has a normal crit range. I’d rather have my trusty vorpal keen flaming long sword +5 any day.

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**Author:** ![Dante](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dante/32/9673_2.png) [@Dante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2005, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-your-magical-christ-nail-didnt-win-wwii-for-us/297308/67 "2005-04-04T17:33:20Z")

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I was wheel scrolling and actually read this post first:

> [@Scott\_plaid](#):
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> am just speaking out of my ass, or does looking out the window in a dull funk sound like the perfect period of time to start writing The Great 'Merican Novel?

So the phrase “am just speaking out of my ass” is now a permanent part of my online vocabulary.

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**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2005, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-your-magical-christ-nail-didnt-win-wwii-for-us/297308/68 "2005-04-04T17:39:00Z")

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:smack: It’s too late now, but: “Am I just speaking out of my ass?”  
Before anyone says it, the answer is “Maybe.”

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**Author:** ![Muad\_Dib](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/35a633/32.png) [@Muad\_Dib](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muad_Dib)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2005, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-your-magical-christ-nail-didnt-win-wwii-for-us/297308/69 "2005-04-04T17:40:56Z")

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> [@Scoundrel Swanswater](#):
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> That is just hilarious !!!

Why, I don’t get it?

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2005, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-your-magical-christ-nail-didnt-win-wwii-for-us/297308/70 "2005-04-04T21:29:05Z")

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There are many stories about the supposed spear that supposedly stabbed Christ while he was hanging out. The spear is usually given some sort of mystical ablilities. One rather well known version of the story is _Parsifal_, an opera written by Richard Wagner. Of course Wagner shared a hatred of Jews with Hitler…

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**Author:** ![Hamish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Hamish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamish)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2005, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-your-magical-christ-nail-didnt-win-wwii-for-us/297308/71 "2005-04-04T22:11:28Z")

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> [@adam yax](#):
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> There are many stories about the supposed spear that supposedly stabbed Christ while he was hanging out. The spear is usually given some sort of mystical ablilities. One rather well known version of the story is _Parsifal_, an opera written by Richard Wagner. Of course Wagner shared a hatred of Jews with Hitler…

I think Wagner got the “lance that bleeds” out of “Percival, the Story of the Grail”, by Medieval French poet Chrétien de Troyes.

And **Scott\_Plaid** , I’m certain the pilots are going into their heads, because the entry plug is inserted into the upper neck while the creature is leaning over. There’s nowhere for the plug to fit in the neck, and it’s too high to be the chest. Since the pilot replaces the Eva’s higher brain functions (but not its animal instincts), I suspect the Eva’s upper brain has been removed.

So that’s two works of art mentioned in one post, more than 800 years apart, where the Spear of Longinus has been a plot point.

It might make awful history, but the Spear of Longinus clearly makes for damn good pop culture 😃

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