# Noah's Ark FOUND on Mount Ararat! (um, again...) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 27, 2010, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noahs-ark-found-on-mount-ararat-um-again/537562 "2010-04-27T20:59:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![B.Serum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/b.serum/32/14266_2.png) [@B.Serum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/B.Serum)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noahs-ark-found-on-mount-ararat-um-again/537562/1 "2010-04-27T20:59:45Z")
Yes, the evangelical Noah’s Ark Ministry International is [99.9% sure](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/27/noahs-ark-found-evangelis_n_553999.html), thought they’re not telling anyone where it is. In related news, Thor’s ancient hammer Mjolnir found on Norway’s Mount Galdhøpiggen by Norse deity expert and Marvel Comics reader, Gunnar Møkjåland. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noahs-ark-found-on-mount-ararat-um-again/537562/2 "2010-04-27T22:35:34Z")
Yeah, it’s about due for this again. ---
**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noahs-ark-found-on-mount-ararat-um-again/537562/3 "2010-04-27T22:39:11Z")
I remember the movie **In Search of Noah’s Ark** when I was in grade school about 35 years ago when they found it then too. That old boat is really slippery it keeps getting lost and found lost and found… ---
**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noahs-ark-found-on-mount-ararat-um-again/537562/4 "2010-04-28T02:34:23Z")
One day they’ll, you know, read their own friggin’ book: [QUOTE=Gen 8:4] And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon\*\* the mountains of Ararat\*\*. [/QUOTE] Ararat was a region (the kingdom of Urartu), not a specific mountain - this mountain was then called Mount Masis, and was only subsequently called Ararat due to the supposed connection with the biblical verse - in some traditions, others call out Mount Judi Dagh as the Ark’s final resting place. But the bible itself never specifies which of the many mountains in the Kingdom of Urartu it ended up at. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noahs-ark-found-on-mount-ararat-um-again/537562/5 "2010-04-28T02:38:24Z")
There certainly could be _a_ Ark there, just like the Coptic Church has several of the _other_ Ark. Some one could have built a pious fake in the last few hundred years, why not? ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noahs-ark-found-on-mount-ararat-um-again/537562/6 "2010-04-28T03:32:51Z")
I’m taking it all with a grain of salt, but according to [Agence France-Press via the ABC](http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/04/28/2884687.htm?section=world), a religious expedition claims to have found Noah’s Ark 4,000 metres up the side of Mt. Ararat. It’ll be interesting to see what they _have_ discovered, but the fact the BBC has nothing on the story is causing me to raise my eyebrows. At any rate, I thought it might be of interest to some of the posters here… ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noahs-ark-found-on-mount-ararat-um-again/537562/7 "2010-04-28T03:42:11Z")
I merged **Martini Enfield** ’s thread into **B. Serum** ’s. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noahs-ark-found-on-mount-ararat-um-again/537562/8 "2010-04-28T04:02:33Z")
My original post seems to have gotten lost in the move, so I’ll say the same thing. There never was any such thing as Noah’s Ark in the first place, but even if there had been, it wouldn’t have been able to stay on top of Ararat because it’s covered with moving glaciers and anything on top would have slid down with the ice. There isn’t the slightest ghost of a chance that these yahoos have found Noah’s Ark. Whatever “wooden structure” they’re claiming is up there is of recent vintage. They probably put it there themselves. The picture of the wooden shelves with the hay on them is amusing, though. Yes, 6000 year old, intact hay. These guys aren’t even good con artists. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noahs-ark-found-on-mount-ararat-um-again/537562/9 "2010-04-28T04:21:19Z")
> [@Icerigger](#): > > I remember the movie **In Search of Noah’s Ark** when I was in grade school about 35 years ago when they found it then too. That old boat is really slippery it keeps getting lost and found lost and found… It’s amazing. Graceful, too. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolas\_Bourbaki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecc23a/32.png) [@Nicolas\_Bourbaki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nicolas_Bourbaki)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noahs-ark-found-on-mount-ararat-um-again/537562/10 "2010-04-28T04:26:53Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > The picture of the wooden shelves with the hay on them is amusing, though. Yes, 6000 year old, intact hay. These guys aren’t even good con artists. _4800_ year old hay. Totally different. And anyways, it was conclusively proven by carbon dating and we all know that’s highly regarded by Evangelical Christians as evidence of physical claims. ---
**Author:** ![EvilTOJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EvilTOJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilTOJ)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noahs-ark-found-on-mount-ararat-um-again/537562/11 "2010-04-28T08:10:47Z")
I will believe them when they say they’ve found archeological treasures, but it’s not the Ark that’s for sure. 12,000 feet elevation can preserve things well. ---
**Author:** ![cjepson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a9adbd/32.png) [@cjepson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cjepson)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noahs-ark-found-on-mount-ararat-um-again/537562/12 "2010-04-28T16:38:42Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > There certainly could be _a_ Ark there… That’s _Anne_ Ark. _Miss_ Anne Ark. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noahs-ark-found-on-mount-ararat-um-again/537562/13 "2010-04-28T16:49:54Z")
> [@](#): > > That’s Anne Ark. Miss Anne Ark. …whose theory is that the Ark is small at one end, much _much_ thicker in the middle, then small again at the other end. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noahs-ark-found-on-mount-ararat-um-again/537562/14 "2010-04-28T16:53:53Z")
> [@cjepson](#): > > That’s _Anne_ Ark. _Miss_ Anne Ark. I believe the ark was thin at one end, much, much thicker in the middle, and then thin again at the other end. That’s my theory. EDTA: Damned **CalMeacham**!!! ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noahs-ark-found-on-mount-ararat-um-again/537562/15 "2010-04-28T17:22:40Z")
I’ve heard that there are so many expeditions to Mt. Ararat looking for the ark that there are often more than one there at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noahs-ark-found-on-mount-ararat-um-again/537562/16 "2010-04-28T17:27:00Z")
The article I saw on it claimed the wood was 4800 years old. I was a bit confused by the fact that there is ample evidence of recorded Human History being quite a bit older than that. Surely if the Earth was flooded enough to jam a boat 4000 meters up a mountain in Turkey, it would have affected the ancient Egyptians and Sumerians, eh? ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noahs-ark-found-on-mount-ararat-um-again/537562/17 "2010-04-28T17:30:21Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Surely if the Earth was flooded enough to jam a boat 4000 meters up a mountain in Turkey, it would have affected the ancient Egyptians and Sumerians, eh? How do you think that whole towel as a wardrobe accessory got started over there? ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noahs-ark-found-on-mount-ararat-um-again/537562/18 "2010-04-28T17:33:19Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > The article I saw on it claimed the wood was 4800 years old. No, they used carbon dating, which is a very well-established scientific method for accurately determining the age of artifacts. [QUOTE=Chimera] I was a bit confused by the fact that there is ample evidence of recorded Human History being quite a bit older than that. [/QUOTE] Sure, if you believe the scientists and their “carbon dating” lies. Most of them are atheist homosexuals anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noahs-ark-found-on-mount-ararat-um-again/537562/19 "2010-04-28T19:54:34Z")
I dunno, given the number of hydrocarbons, CO2, CO, etcetera, it seems to me that Carbon does a whole lot more than mere dating. Damned Trollop Elements! ---
**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noahs-ark-found-on-mount-ararat-um-again/537562/20 "2010-04-28T20:02:59Z")
> [@askance](#): > > one day they’ll, you know, read their own friggin’ book: > > Ararat was a region (the kingdom of urartu), not a specific mountain - this mountain was then called mount masis, and was only subsequently called ararat due to the supposed connection with the biblical verse - in some traditions, others call out mount **judi dagh** as the ark’s final resting place. But the bible itself never specifies which of the many mountains in the kingdom of urartu it ended up at. Dame JUDI DENCH?!?!? 😃 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/noahs-ark-found-on-mount-ararat-um-again/537562.md?page=2)